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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 24 2014 03:07 GMT
#1281
The NCAA, one of the great modern evils of American society.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 24 2014 04:13 GMT
#1282
grantland article about bledsoe

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/eric-bledsoes-long-hot-restricted-summer/
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-24 05:21:16
July 24 2014 05:17 GMT
#1283
On the topic of millionaires exploiting athletes, have we talked about OKC's #29 pick Josh Huestis yet?

Thunder and Huestis agreed to sign him to their D-League affiliate (25k/y) for a year so that they can develop him the way they want, then sign him to his 2 + 2 option rookie contract. Basically lets the Thunder develop this guy on D-League wages instead of NBA rookie wages and the associated cap hit.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-24 07:01:28
July 24 2014 05:25 GMT
#1284
GENIUS! =P
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13416 Posts
July 24 2014 09:43 GMT
#1285
On July 24 2014 14:17 seiferoth10 wrote:
On the topic of millionaires exploiting athletes, have we talked about OKC's #29 pick Josh Huestis yet?

Thunder and Huestis agreed to sign him to their D-League affiliate (25k/y) for a year so that they can develop him the way they want, then sign him to his 2 + 2 option rookie contract. Basically lets the Thunder develop this guy on D-League wages instead of NBA rookie wages and the associated cap hit.


Well he did agree to sign the contract as you say.

Not sure what the issue with two consenting parties entering into a contract. Did Okc abuse it's disproportionate bargaining position?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 24 2014 10:12 GMT
#1286
On July 24 2014 07:39 oneofthem wrote:
made the mistake of listening to klosterman with simmons. why is this guy even a thing.


I dont even think he's watched more than 10 NBA games. Ever.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 24 2014 12:30 GMT
#1287
On July 24 2014 18:43 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 14:17 seiferoth10 wrote:
On the topic of millionaires exploiting athletes, have we talked about OKC's #29 pick Josh Huestis yet?

Thunder and Huestis agreed to sign him to their D-League affiliate (25k/y) for a year so that they can develop him the way they want, then sign him to his 2 + 2 option rookie contract. Basically lets the Thunder develop this guy on D-League wages instead of NBA rookie wages and the associated cap hit.


Well he did agree to sign the contract as you say.

Not sure what the issue with two consenting parties entering into a contract. Did Okc abuse it's disproportionate bargaining position?


well the issue is why would someone sign a 25-30k contract when they are entitled to a rookie contract worth millions over 3-4 years?

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/21/are-thunder-skirting-nba-protocol-by-sending-first-round-pick-josh-huestis-to-d-league/
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-24 15:26:43
July 24 2014 15:22 GMT
#1288
On July 24 2014 18:43 RowdierBob wrote:
Did Okc abuse it's disproportionate bargaining position?

That's almost certainly what happened. --Edit: Seems like it was a reach pick and that OKC probably had a verbal agreement that Huestis would accept a deal that amounts to about what he was projected to get anyway with possible additional organizational inroads. This is a pretty blatant violation of the NBA's rules though so we'll see.-- If you recall they've been only giving their rookies 80% of the scale (the minimum allowed) as well. Maybe if the NBA had a meaningful union they might not allow the owners to cry poor while taking half!!!! the $ just for being involved.

Question for non-'Muricans. How do sports without a draft handle the transition to the pros? Specifically I'm curious about how like European soccer handles players moving from their development centers/houses/schools to the big-time. Just generally speaking does it give the athlete more of a say than "well you're not offering me a fair deal, so I will just forfeit years of playing"?
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
July 24 2014 15:52 GMT
#1289
Is this guy's agent his mom or something? lol
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 24 2014 16:03 GMT
#1290
That sounds like a pretty big loophole. I wouldn't be surprised to see other teams complaining.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
July 24 2014 18:37 GMT
#1291
On July 25 2014 00:22 Haiq343 wrote:
Question for non-'Muricans. How do sports without a draft handle the transition to the pros? Specifically I'm curious about how like European soccer handles players moving from their development centers/houses/schools to the big-time. Just generally speaking does it give the athlete more of a say than "well you're not offering me a fair deal, so I will just forfeit years of playing"?

People get to the auditions of teams. If they get selected, they play at age-restricted teams (u15,16,17,18,19,20,21, whatever) and work their way up. I don't think there are any colleges with sports scholarship programs. They don't have any reputation whatsoever either. Performance at reserves league is more important for European soccer teams. Players spend their teenage years at u-squads while American basketball-hockey-football players take part of their high school/college teams.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
July 25 2014 05:53 GMT
#1292
Mavs additions are all so good this summer. Aminu and now Nelson, after getting rid of Lewis, are all great moves IMO.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 25 2014 06:12 GMT
#1293
Nelson is garbage
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-25 07:03:13
July 25 2014 07:02 GMT
#1294
Probably missing a few but:

Lost: VC, Dalembert, Calderon, Blair

Added: Parsons, Aminu, Tyson Chandler and Nelson

I'd call that a damn good offseason after taking the spurs to 7 games. Nelson may not be that great but he's still semi-productive and a vet in a position where it looked like Felton might start.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
July 25 2014 07:11 GMT
#1295
Nelson might not be great, but he's not Felton. That's a big plus.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 25 2014 07:15 GMT
#1296
ugh so true :/
If he gets Felton's minutes what a steal. Aminu is a great defender too.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13416 Posts
July 25 2014 09:33 GMT
#1297
Is nelson really going to be the starting PG? ugh. Old man mavs.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
jdsowa
Profile Joined March 2011
405 Posts
July 25 2014 13:45 GMT
#1298
People always bad mouth the NCAA by default, but it's the NBA and NFL that set up these abusive age limits. In nearly any other field (software development, music, writing, tennis, esports, etc.), if you have the ability, you can go out into the market and realize your true value, regardless of age. These basketball and football players are ready to start playing professionally, but are denied because the billionaire owners of these pro sports organizations prefer the free promotion and development that college athletics provides.

These pro sports organizations do not face ordinary free market competition. They are monopolies and effectively have an antitrust exemption from the government. All it would take is some small pressure from congress and we can have these age limits tossed out.

Once that's taken care of, then things become very simple. If an athlete is good enough, he can become a professional right away. Otherwise, it is his choice to participate in college athletics as an amateur. He made that decision knowing in full the benefits and drawbacks of being a college athlete. I'm certainly fine with college athletes getting a cut of licensing revenue. However, we do not want to put our institutions of learning in a situation where they are bidding for high school talent by having boosters offering kids cars and fake jobs for $100k/year or whatever madness would happen under Jay Bilas' suggested system.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 25 2014 14:19 GMT
#1299
Colleges are businesses anyway. I see nothing wrong with that happening.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 25 2014 14:25 GMT
#1300
On July 25 2014 22:45 jdsowa wrote:
However, we do not want to put our institutions of learning in a situation where they are bidding for high school talent by having boosters offering kids cars and fake jobs for $100k/year or whatever madness would happen under Jay Bilas' suggested system.


already happens.
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