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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 06 2015 23:15 GMT
#1241
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 06 2015 23:38 GMT
#1242
I am just saying that Carlyle and Yeo could be mutually canceling outliers re: puck possession as predictive of competence.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
January 07 2015 00:34 GMT
#1243
yeah it's not an exact science by any means, but if i had to point to something, I'd maybe say sample size since it's still less than half a season. and definitely keeping pucks out of the net, since they're not particularly good at that despite being good at driving possession. kuemper's rockin a .904.
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Tephus
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Cascadia1754 Posts
January 07 2015 00:35 GMT
#1244
I don't mind changing the name if you guys can come up with something.
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Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 01:07:50
January 07 2015 01:07 GMT
#1245
Petry or not Petry, that is the question.
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Stratos_speAr
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United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 01:37:13
January 07 2015 01:35 GMT
#1246
On January 07 2015 08:38 Sub40APM wrote:
I am just saying that Carlyle and Yeo could be mutually canceling outliers re: puck possession as predictive of competence.


Actually during Oct/Nov the Wild were pretty much the best puck possession team in the NHL. They were best in shot suppression, one of the best in shots/G, and in the top 3rd of the league in G/G. During this time, they were a strong team showing good results and competing for a high spot in the Central. The thing that kept them down was an extremely low shooting percentage and a low save percentage.

The Wild only started looking really bad in December, when their possession numbers took a sharp nosedive (they are now routinely out-shot, when they out-shot their opponents for all but 1 of the first 15-20 games or so) and their save percentage went to league-worst levels.

So their possession numbers are actually pretty good indicators of their success as well.

Also, the Wild have been a horrible puck possession team for Yeo's entire tenure. The only time they were good at it were the first two months out of this season.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
January 07 2015 05:08 GMT
#1247
Why the fuck was that a double minor for spearing? Ya he speared him but wheres the double minor? Why not a major? I don't understand that part of the call
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 07 2015 07:37 GMT
#1248
http://www.tsn.ca/video/insider-trading-could-babcock-become-the-maple-leafs-coach-1.176411


Such trade bait but interesting question, will the Red Wings make Babcock the most expensive coach in the NHL?
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
January 07 2015 14:53 GMT
#1249
I wonder what the trade deadline is gonna look like this year. It seems like teams have been pulling the trigger on stuff now vs closer to the deadline lately. Perron's a pretty big move. I would have to think that Jagr gets moved as well because NJ is pretty awful right now and isn't going to get better in the next season or two without some kind of miracle. Especially since they replaced DeBoer with fucking Adam Oates and Captain Elbows.

Supposedly Doan asked for a trade out of the desert and was denied. I hope he rots there. He's always been an overrated shithead who gets away with a lot of dirty stuff because he's a 'franchise player' on a dumpy franchise

Outside of those two, I don't really see any particularly big names that are definitely gonna move. Personally I don't see any of the big name kids moving out of Edmonton. Maaaaybe Yandle moves out of the desert. But considering they just got a new owner and that team is already hurting for big name players I don't think it happens.

Maybe Buffalo unloads Moulson or Stewart. Or maybe this is the year Ryan Oreilly is finally moved.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 07 2015 20:13 GMT
#1250
Edmonton's not gonna unload any of Hall/Eberle/Nuge/Yak. The return on Yak wouldn't be worth it anyway, even if he's still putting up zero points, just so we can save face. Yak goes to another team and scores 30 -> OILERS GOT FLEECED LOL. Yak stays on the Oil and doesn't produce -> YAK IS A BUST LOL. There's no winning for that kid in this situation, I feel bad for him.

Nelson's been trying to get him going lately, and hopefully with Drai down in the dub, and Yak playing his minutes with actual NHL centers, he can turn it around.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
January 07 2015 22:19 GMT
#1251
Agreed on that. It doesn't make sense for them.

re: minny chat, just saw this. [image loading]
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
January 08 2015 00:25 GMT
#1252
On January 08 2015 05:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Edmonton's not gonna unload any of Hall/Eberle/Nuge/Yak. The return on Yak wouldn't be worth it anyway, even if he's still putting up zero points, just so we can save face. Yak goes to another team and scores 30 -> OILERS GOT FLEECED LOL. Yak stays on the Oil and doesn't produce -> YAK IS A BUST LOL. There's no winning for that kid in this situation, I feel bad for him.

Nelson's been trying to get him going lately, and hopefully with Drai down in the dub, and Yak playing his minutes with actual NHL centers, he can turn it around.

Those are all draft day trades I think. MAYBE someone is desperate at the deadline for scoring and wants to gamble on Yak and overpays, thus making it a decent trade but I doubt it.

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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 05:15:52
January 08 2015 05:09 GMT
#1253
On January 08 2015 07:19 QuanticHawk wrote:
Agreed on that. It doesn't make sense for them.

re: minny chat, just saw this. [image loading]


Yea, we've crashed and burned pretty hard. The entire team is drastically under-achieving, which is infuriating. Most people didn't think much of the Wild before the season started, and then they looked like idiots for the first two months of the season when we transformed our offense into the best the franchise has ever had and were the best possession team in the league. Then we crashed and burned at the beginning of December and haven't looked back. Yeo completely blew up today in practice, tearing the players a new one (which he never does), smashing his stick all over the place and walking out of practice.

http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3669275.shtml?cat=1

The biggest problem is a league-worst save percentage, an absolutely atrocious 3rd D pairing, woeful under-performance from some key youngsters (Haula, Coyle, and Granlund), and Yeo completely failing on personnel decisions; some of our most productive players aren't getting the ice time they deserve (Niederreiter) and he's calling up terrible D-men from our AHL affiliate (Bickel, Falk) for "grit" and "toughness" when their are much better players down there that he could bring up (Blum, Dumba). Of course, this also goes back to our GM, who hamstrung the club with a horrible contract for Backstrom, who has a No Trade Clause and a relatively large cap hit, and is extremely reluctant to snatch up a decent 3rd pairing D-man off of waivers or a trade.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 08 2015 06:08 GMT
#1254
any kind of 'high quality shot' sort of analysis besides the possession stuff?
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 08 2015 11:17 GMT
#1255
Some guys are trying to do heat maps of position on ice vs shot success but thats just statistical support for the obvious, you get close to the goalie you score more goals on average.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 11:20:24
January 08 2015 11:19 GMT
#1256
fuck wrong thread

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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
January 08 2015 12:56 GMT
#1257
as far as I know there isn't any kind of metric that differentiates quality shots from the throw it on the net variety. ill look up some stuff today and see
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 08 2015 20:49 GMT
#1258
Can the Bruins turn around this abysmal season and make a deep playoff run? They still haven't filled in the hole that Iginla made in their top line but their real woes are their entire team top to bottom just not performing. Maybe the pressure from a CEO who is vocal about moving pieces if the team keeps underperforming will work, but history shows that it doesn't mean dick.

I just hope they don't trade away Lucic. Him, Krejci, Chara, Bergy, Dougie and Rask are the only absolute must-keeps on the team in my eyes.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 08 2015 22:06 GMT
#1259
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 09 2015 01:33 GMT
#1260
Soderberg's having another good season, on pace for 54 points. Particularly when you consider that no player on Boston has hit 70 points for six seasons.
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