I know they have to save face here and avoid bad publicity. But what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Especially in cases of abuse or rape etc. People seem so hellbent on playing the white knight that they don't even stop to consider the possibility that the person is actually innocent. Obviously I'm not just talking about Patrick Kane here and EA. But in general whenever a story about something like this pops up the person in question is instantly assumed guilty and treated as such before any actual facts come out.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

August 12 2015 22:57 GMT

#2645

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Kyhron

United States945 Posts

August 13 2015 03:33 GMT

#2646

Wasn't there a lot more evidence towards guilt with voynov though? So far all we really know with Kane is that he may be being investigated for supposed rape. There has yet to be one actual shred of definitive anything other than there's an investigation that he is involved in. Every bit of "information" thats been released has been heresay from people outside the investigation. Until the authorities actually say something the reactions from everyone is a bit over the top imo.

WarSame

Canada1950 Posts

August 13 2015 04:27 GMT

#2647

They can't really afford to let it go out with him on the front, though. If he were to get convicted, or even charged, it looks terrible for their game. It's a better decision to just pull him off this year. If he's convincingly exonerated then they could just put him on when it clears.

sharkeyanti

United States1273 Posts

August 13 2015 16:49 GMT

#2648

Also, the cover was terrible to begin with. Not just b/c screw the Hawks, but it just looks awful.

StarStruck

25339 Posts

August 13 2015 18:09 GMT

#2649

Everything EA does looks awful ;o

Ha Hawk. I could say the same for the Yankees, Knicks, etc.

Who needs a salary cap when you can just throw money at players.

QuanticHawk

United States32159 Posts

August 13 2015 18:45 GMT

#2650

Oh I just meant it on the basis that I don't like seeing historical losers win because I am just a mean jerk. I hope the Jets, Mets, and Knicks are all shitty and stupid forever. I hope the Cubs choke forever. I like it that way!

Kyhron

United States945 Posts

August 13 2015 19:47 GMT

#2651

Cubs were expected to be a sub500 team this year and they're currently 16 games over 500 and have won 12 of 13 Hawk. Doesn't sound like choking to me

Valiver

Caldeum1977 Posts

August 13 2015 19:54 GMT

#2652

On August 14 2015 04:47 Kyhron wrote:
Cubs were expected to be a sub500 team this year and they're currently 16 games over 500 and have won 12 of 13 Hawk. Doesn't sound like choking to me

You have to be in a good position to choke. You can't be last in the league and choke.

QuanticHawk

United States32159 Posts

August 14 2015 00:37 GMT

#2653

What that guy said! You got to break up the years of ineptitude with some heartbreaking collapses as well!

Kyhron

United States945 Posts

August 14 2015 06:53 GMT

#2654

Team is being carried by a bunch of rookies. Even if they collapse its probably a better experience than if they just win all the time

sharkeyanti

United States1273 Posts

August 14 2015 07:20 GMT

#2655

Sorry if this is a bit of a tangent off your point, Kyhron:

While having experience certainly helps a professional athlete with certain things, if you are good enough on the field your age just doesn't matter in baseball. While other sports have lots of split second decisions and sort of larger goals in mind, baseball is basically all reaction. With respect to managers using defense and bullpens a bit better recently, there is basically nothing intriguing about baseball strategy. And players don't ever make those types of decisions.

The only position in baseball that would require legitimate major league experience to perform consistently is the catcher.

Sorry for the aside, but I feel like this is a receptive audience to my opinion that baseball is boring as all hell. The "game" happens in identifying long term trends, whoop-dee-doo!

Flaccid

8923 Posts

August 14 2015 14:38 GMT

#2656

I don't know if this is a safe place to admit that I love baseball ;-) Watching Kershaw pitch is one of my favorite things going these days in pro sports. He's insane.

Flaccid

8923 Posts

August 14 2015 14:40 GMT

#2657

Also Lemaire is coaching with the leafs now too. I'm happy to see the leafs are focused on hiring every coach/exec with a known name rather than improving the roster =)

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

August 14 2015 14:41 GMT

#2658

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QuanticHawk

United States32159 Posts

August 15 2015 15:52 GMT

#2659

A little derail never hurt it's offseason. Right around now is when I'll start watching a little baseball. I don't really know much about it

Going w the comment about catchers I feel like pitchers fall into the same thing. Pitch selection is as much mental as it is physical

I love laughing at the leafs and i think Babcock is good but overrated. But lemaire is probably the single best defensive couch of the modern era. They could do far worse than having him shape guys like gardener and Reilly.

Flaccid

8923 Posts

August 15 2015 21:26 GMT

#2660

Isn't he like a 'special assignment' coach or something? So they pay him to watch the games from home and then give his 2 cents - like "yeah, shoulda scored more goals or maybe got scored on less." Sweet retirement gig, imo.