At least second. Only incident I remember is the one with McCann, but I assume there have been others. When you're going to showboat, you have to be able to deal with people not liking it.

Funny thing was, had he hustled, it was an easy HR.

Dknight

United States5225 Posts

April 23 2014 23:59 GMT

#44

Pineda just got kicked out for pine tar on his neck during the Sox-Yankees game. And the announcers immediately go to his defense and pine tar's defense.

JimmyJRaynor

Canada17925 Posts

April 24 2014 00:09 GMT

#45

my favourite pine tar incident

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

April 24 2014 00:37 GMT

#46

well pine tar is pretty innocent as far as what substance pitchers apply to the ball/their hands. it just helps with grip in cold weather.

it's much less doctoring the ball than something like vaseline which lester used in the playoffs

AgentW

United States7725 Posts

April 24 2014 01:06 GMT

#47

Yeah, your stance seems objective...

If you're gonna do it, don't be so damn obvious.

Jaaaaasper

United States10225 Posts

April 24 2014 01:24 GMT

#48

Pineda is a freaking moron. Did he really think people wouldn't notice that on his neck?

+ Show Spoiler +

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

April 25 2014 00:07 GMT

#49

On April 24 2014 10:06 AgentW wrote:
Yeah, your stance seems objective...

If you're gonna do it, don't be so damn obvious.

well whether it's going into 'enhancement' territory or not seems to depend on how much of the stuff is used and for what pitch.

pitchers that rely on sliders could use pine tar to get more spin and get more finger pressure on the pitch. those that rely on slower spin rate pitches like splitters use slippery stuff. but the type of pitch produced by vaseline powered slipperiness is in a class of its own. i guess that's why it's seen as worse than pine tar, which helps with fastball grip as well as breaking pitches, and has less of a 'make unique pitch out of thin air' aspect to it.

lamprey1

Canada919 Posts

May 04 2014 03:52 GMT

#50

the Blue Jays assemble a collection of injury prone pitchers many of whom have never pitched more than 150 innings a year.
and,
surprise surprise... Blue Jay pitchers are dropping like flies.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-place-rhp-morrow-on-disabled-list/

here is the technical background on Morrow's injury.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenosynovitis

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

May 04 2014 13:03 GMT

#51

couple years ago i thought morrow was going to be a breakout star given his FIP numbers. alas.

that was a time when i had a higher opinion of FIP too

Ferrose

United States11378 Posts

May 07 2014 06:48 GMT

#52

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_05_06_sfnmlb_pitmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=32660489&tcid=vpp_copy_32660489

Yay for instant replay!

AgentW

United States7725 Posts

May 07 2014 12:13 GMT

#53

Saw the game on TV last night. Really cool ending. Is it the first of its kind?

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

May 10 2014 03:13 GMT

#54

LOL papi

Jaaaaasper

United States10225 Posts

May 10 2014 04:11 GMT

#55

Darvish really thought he could have gotten away with that pitch to the clutchest man in baseball? He pitched one hell of a game though.

SynC[gm]

United States3127 Posts

May 10 2014 04:25 GMT

#56

Yeah, kept getting notifications from my ESPN app that "Yu Darvish has retired XX batters through X innings." Missed the game but man... Again, he misses an opportunity for a perfect game. Great that we got the W against the Red Sox though, gotta get the ball rolling and pick up momentum.

Jaaaaasper

United States10225 Posts

May 10 2014 04:45 GMT

#57

Yeah he made one bad pitch that entire game and Papi took away his perfect game.

Ferrose

United States11378 Posts

May 16 2014 04:51 GMT

#58

Jose Fernandez getting tommy john surgery

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

May 17 2014 01:43 GMT

#59

k rate spike across the league and so does tjs. starter innings shrink
full out effort pitching bearing fruit

AgentW

United States7725 Posts

May 17 2014 14:52 GMT

#60

Is that because of pitchers throwing harder/more inefficiently than in the past though? K rates are up because of the moneyball methodology (striking out isn't as bad of a thing as it was once was thought to be) and batting average and starter innings are down because of late inning specialization. I think I read in a Keri/Verducci article recently that BA in the last three innings of games is at like .215, which would be the lowest league wide average for a full season by far.