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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:49 MassHysteria wrote: and LAL@ HOU...and WSH at Minnesota for NFL...too many good sports stuff today. Ha...yeah, totally forgot about those too.. cripes. First world problems. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
On November 08 2013 03:46 Ace wrote: Yes, and he can't hit them. He didn't shoot any his first 2 years then for some odd reason started chucking them up. The Clippers are stupid for signing a guy who can't play. FYP. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
First year player? | ||
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seiferoth10
3362 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:55 Vindicare605 wrote: We're playing Houston tonight. Since it's a team that doesn't play any defense we should actually have a pretty decent chance. WHOA SIR, that's rude. Maybe last season, but we're playing defense (at least around the rim) this season! Still figuring out what defense is on the perimeter. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On November 08 2013 07:35 seiferoth10 wrote: WHOA SIR, that's rude. Maybe last season, but we're playing defense (at least around the rim) this season! Still figuring out what defense is on the perimeter. Well if you've watched us play, the perimeter is all we care about at least as far as Señor Pringles is concerned. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
Pretty cool article. Surprise surprise put a player on a better team with a better coach and all of a sudden he does well. Just goes to show how much the team aspect of basketball matters. One of two things is happening: Either Ellis is the breakout star of small-sample-size theater this year and a regression is coming, or he is in the process of demonstrating something that seems so obvious I hesitate to even write it: Playing for a good team makes individual players appear better, while playing for a bad team makes them look worse. To this point, even our most advanced stats neglect that most basic notion of basketball ecology. Same thing is happening with Earl Clark this year IMO. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
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usedtocare
United States243 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
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usedtocare
United States243 Posts
On November 08 2013 09:46 Scarecrow wrote: Can really see the difference doc is making with the clips, loving the ball movement I haven't watched them yet. Will be surprised if what you saying stands true. Imo last season Clips ran remarkably hot, was the ball movement off or something?.. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On November 08 2013 08:31 Vindicare605 wrote: http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/81633/courtvision-the-revenge-of-monta-ellis Pretty cool article. Surprise surprise put a player on a better team with a better coach and all of a sudden he does well. Just goes to show how much the team aspect of basketball matters. Same thing is happening with Earl Clark this year IMO. one of the dumbest articles he's ever written. Ellis had a monster game to start the season but he's still inefficient. Tons of fouls and turnovers but since he hit some shots against bad defenses he's suddenly much better? sure | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On November 08 2013 09:53 Ace wrote: one of the dumbest articles he's ever written. Ellis had a monster game to start the season but he's still inefficient. Tons of fouls and turnovers but since he hit some shots against bad defenses he's suddenly much better? sure I mean there's plenty of room for Ellis to prove him wrong and he even says so in the article. The point is that he's currently making a case for himself if he can stay consistent. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On November 08 2013 09:53 Ace wrote: one of the dumbest articles he's ever written. Ellis had a monster game to start the season but he's still inefficient. Tons of fouls and turnovers but since he hit some shots against bad defenses he's suddenly much better? sure -I think it's funny when people try to use present/future success to discredit past failure. -The baseball comparison is funny because, while it seems to be true in the micro sense that baseball is 1 on 1 and basketball is team, in the macro sense, baseball players are much more susceptible to the vagaries of their team. Miguel Cabrera didn't win the triple crown because he was the best player in baseball, he won it because he was the best hitter on the best team. You can't hit in RBIs if your team sucks, but you can at least pass the eye test for not making boneheaded decisions in basketball. You may not have great options, but there are usually better options and Monta usually took the worst, jacking up a shot. -Basketball is a game about overlapping skills and roles and the most successful players are the ones that know their roles and are utilized as such. Ellis is not and likely will never be what he thought he was on those other teams, a wannabe superstar, so it's no surprise that he looks better with a reduced role that does not expect too much of him. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On November 08 2013 11:01 zulu_nation8 wrote: not sure how Dallas is a good team... It's a way better team than the Bucks.... | ||
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jeeeeohn
United States1343 Posts
In the same vein, I'm also getting sick of this Derrick Rose commercial. I'm sure if he were starving in the street he wouldn't be so concerned with basketball, but whatever. | ||
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jeeeeohn
United States1343 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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