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Pot 1:
 Bayern Munchen 146.922
 Barcelona 157.605
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/6/6d/En.gif) Chelsea 137.592
Real Madrid 136.605
Manchester United 130.592
Arsenal 113.592
 Porto 104.833
Benfica 102.833
Pot 2:
Atletico Madrid 99.605
 Shakhtar Donetsk 94.951
 AC Milan 93.829
Schalke 04 84.922
 Marseille 78.800
 CSKA Moscow 77.766
Paris Saint-Germain 71.800
Juventus 70.829
Pot 3:
Zenit st. Petersburg 70.766
Manchester City 70.592
 Ajax 64.945
Borussia Dortmund 61.922
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/e/e5/Ch.png) Basel 59.785
 Olympiacos 57.800
 Galatasaray 54.400
Bayern Leverkusen 53.922
Pot 4:
 FC København 47.140
Napoli 46.829
 Anderlecht 44.880
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/8/8c/Sc.gif) Celtic 37.235
 Steaua Bucuresti 35.604
 FC Viktoria Plzeň 28.745
Real Sociedad 17.605
 Austria Wien 16.575
Kick Off: Thursday, 29th August 17:45 CEST -
Place: Grimaldi Forum, Monaco + Show Spoiler +
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Ok, city not in the 4th pot, no more groups of death.
Well, ok mby there will be one cause napoli is scary.
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On August 29 2013 08:00 Steveling wrote:
Ok, city not in the 4th pot, no more groups of death.
Well, ok mby there will be one cause napoli is scary.
Barcelona - PSG - Dortmund - Napoli
How about that? 
Real Sociedad are looking good, too and another group of death for Man City would be funny, maybe
Bayern - Juventus - ManCity - Sociedad
Ah, the possibilities ...
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Chelsea worst group possible:
Chelsea
Paris Saint Germain
Dortmund
Napoli
xD Man such tough group possibilities this year
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Barcelona
PSG
Galatasaray
Napoli
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we just want to prove that last year wasnt a fluke :3 i wouldnt mind an easy group too haha.
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Pretty happy that Benfica is in Pot 1, but now all the teams in other pots look stronger than usual. :/
Benfica - CSKA - Bayer Leverkusen - Austria Wien please.
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On August 29 2013 18:07 Mensol wrote:
Barcelona
PSG
Galatasaray
Napoli
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we just want to prove that last year wasnt a fluke :3 i wouldnt mind an easy group too haha.
Yeah I'm not sure if I would prefer
Chelsea / PSG / BVB / Napoli
or something along the lines of
Benfica / marseille / BVB / Austria.
Would be okay with both I guess. I hope Basel and Plzen advance shocking their groups! (minor shock for Basel I hope they don't lose any more players. Leave Stocer alone Schalke!)
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There are a lot of potential death groups out there with Dortmund, Napoli, ManCity and Zenit in pot 3&4 and Milan + PSG + Juventus in 2.
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On August 29 2013 18:25 USvBleakill wrote:
There are a lot of potential death groups out there with Dortmund, Napoli, ManCity and Zenit in pot 3&4 and Milan + PSG + Juventus in 2.
The only pot 4 club I would rate strong enough to conclude a Group of Death would be Napoli which means that neither Juve nor Milan are at risk. Maybe we could make a case for Sociedad. I don't know. Last years group of Death will be hard to beat especially because all national champions met which added a good storyline.
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In how many hours will the draw commence?
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Easiest opponents from the 1st pot gotta be arsenal-porto.
2nd marseille-cska
From the other 2 pots only 4-5 teams are top level, dortmund, city, napoli, pari.
I want my two waifu teams to face each other, barca and olympiacos, would be awesome.
Also, I think dortmund will do bad this year in europe but I hope not, I like them.
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On August 29 2013 19:32 smr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 18:25 USvBleakill wrote:
There are a lot of potential death groups out there with Dortmund, Napoli, ManCity and Zenit in pot 3&4 and Milan + PSG + Juventus in 2.
The only pot 4 club I would rate strong enough to conclude a Group of Death would be Napoli which means that neither Juve nor Milan are at risk. Maybe we could make a case for Sociedad. I don't know. Last years group of Death will be hard to beat especially because all national champions met which added a good storyline.
you are right but i would pick Celtic from pot 4 as "dangerous". At home everything can happen they even beat Barcelona last year 2 - 1. They will most likely not make it out of a "group of death" but they are strong enough to steal important points from teams like Milan or ManCity.
Countdown timer until it starts says 3hours 35minutes at this post. However i think that is when the show starts, so maybe more like 4hours until the actual draw. Im not sure UEFA are really bad at these things, the times sometime are not even accurate and the show starts at 3hours time and the actual draw is supposed to start in 3hours and 35minutes.
Who knows but safe to say it wont be drawn ATLEAST until 3hours and 35minutes time
CL draws are usually pretty fast paced compared to a WM draw (i can remember the South Africa draw was something like 3 hours). But since this is the first one with the most teams it could take a while and there will be awards like best CL defender/midfielder blabla and the best player in europe award between Messi/Ribery/Ronaldo.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Im pretty sure they do all the awards this event too? Best Goalkeeper Best Defender Best Midfielder Best Striker - Best Team etc? Or did they scrap those awards and just do best player of whole tournament?
WorldCup draw is indeed the longest but rightly so <3
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Barcelona
Juventus
Galatasaray
Celtic
It was Gala's group on cl's test draw o/ /o i want to see barça at Istanbul!!!!!!!!
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I dont understand the points, are 40k points a big difference?. If Barca or Bayern wont qualify for Top16 rounds in this cl season, what must happen that they dont anymore in pot1? It's possible that they are in pot2/3/4 next cl season?
Bayern
PSG
ManC
Napoli
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EPT![[image loading]](http://www.grimaldiforum.com/images/grimaldi-forum-monaco/2-Photo%20GFM%20credit%20JCVinaj%20l'Agence.JPG)
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Bayern Munchen ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50080.png)
Barcelona ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52914.png)
Chelsea ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50051.png)
Real Madrid ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52682.png)
Manchester United ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52280.png)
Arsenal ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50064.png)
Porto ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50147.png)
Benfica ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50124.png)
Atletico Madrid ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52707.png)
Shakhtar Donetsk ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50058.png)
AC Milan ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/57388.png)
Schalke 04 ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52748.png)
Marseille ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/54266.png)
CSKA Moscow ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52747.png)
Paris Saint-Germain ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50139.png)
Juventus ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52826.png)
Zenit st. Petersburg ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52919.png)
Manchester City ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50143.png)
Ajax ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52758.png)
Borussia Dortmund ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/59856.png)
Basel ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/2610.png)
Olympiacos ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50067.png)
Galatasaray ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50109.png)
Bayern Leverkusen ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52709.png)
FC København ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50136.png)
Napoli ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50074.png)
Anderlecht ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50050.png)
Celtic ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50065.png)
Steaua Bucuresti ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/64388.png)
FC Viktoria Plzeň ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50123.png)
Real Sociedad ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50110.png)
Austria Wien 
Then it really is win 3 games and your a champions league winner. When you play /defend /counter football and Benitez is in charge that is easily possible
