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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 22:43:21
January 20 2014 22:21 GMT
#11081
Sounds like I made the right choice to give up watching at half time and watch Flash Gordon instead, epic old film. Good job the baggies snatching a point.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 00:05:59
January 21 2014 00:05 GMT
#11082
wow, Athletic is doing very well this year again. They are four right now. I didn't expect they to recover so fast after the last year Bielsa problems, Llorente, Javi Martinez, etc. But they are playing great again.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 00:56:37
January 21 2014 00:54 GMT
#11083
Did Anelka's gesture have anything to do with Tony Parker's?

edit: apparently it was the same gesture.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 03:29:27
January 21 2014 03:29 GMT
#11084
This gesture has nothing racist in it, at least it hadn't. It's called 'quenelle' which is a kind of sausage, and it means 'I put it up your a**'.
This comedian said some bad things (even though he says he's 'just anti-zionist') and he has had a lot of trouble with the justice system. Basically every mayor in France tries to cancel his shows, so he has no place to perform. This 'quenelle' is more like a 'fuck the system' that an anti-semitism gesture, but since it's associated with that comedian, it took this meaning (pushed by the anti-racism associations and the government).

So Anelka did this to support this comedian, not to say 'f*** jewish people'. This gesture might not be punished by the law (it would really be a shame for our 'country of human rights') but you cannot do it and expect that nobody cares about it, so the sponsor thing is just normal. It's not Anelka's first mistake anyway x)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 15:37:40
January 21 2014 15:22 GMT
#11085
Sooo...i bring you good news Manchester United fans...if any are still left

Reports are Yanited are making a bid (in the next few days) for Juan Mata. Now Chelsea will sell him, if Mourinho gives the go ahead which according to sources from Spain (mainly Guilem Ballague) and Mata will leave Chelsea if they tell him his services are no longer required.
So....watch this space for more news on this ^_^
Im guessing they are going to have to pay at least £30million if not £40 odd. Will be interesting ^_^

Hopefully some kind of deal about Rooney might be involved too which would be sick :3
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
January 21 2014 15:35 GMT
#11086
Nor Rooney for you, Chelsea give Mata to ManU, so ManU has a chance to take points from ManCity and Arsenal
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 21 2014 15:38 GMT
#11087
Another funny line i read today is that Abramovich is ready to go crazy again (Man City/PSG Style) if UEFA fail to enforce the FFP rules which are due to start in the 2014/15 season. Will be funny if UEFA do just completely fuck this up and don't enforce the FFP.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 21 2014 15:39 GMT
#11088
haha Chelsea has already played against Utd twice so you could be on to something there Maenander Not to mention Mou and Fergie are pretty close friends so perhaps there is some truth to this whole matter
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6306 Posts
January 21 2014 15:40 GMT
#11089
Funny for 5 clubs and fucked up for the rest...
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18724 Posts
January 21 2014 15:44 GMT
#11090
On January 22 2014 00:38 Pandemona wrote:
Another funny line i read today is that Abramovich is ready to go crazy again (Man City/PSG Style Chelsea style) if UEFA fail to enforce the FFP rules which are due to start in the 2014/15 season. Will be funny if UEFA do just completely fuck this up and don't enforce the FFP.


Fixed
I also dont see what is funny about this. :/
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 16:02:14
January 21 2014 15:59 GMT
#11091
I do because of UEFA when it came out are like yes this will be enforced and yes no teams will be able to join if they are just spending cash wildly without having the correct funds to support the spending. Yet now PSG and Monaco have entered the big bucks league their are so many rumors of it being allowed to happen. Because their is no way little Monaco could even come close to a decent balance sheet with what they have spent and their club revenue. Unless, they are charging €1000 a ticket per home game in their 30,000 stadium. Same with PSG again without the revenue of a Barcelona/Real Madrid they have no way to have a decent balance sheet to send into UEFA at the end of this season.

Chelsea have worked towards it and have achieved it, if UEFA don't follow through on it, then thats them just messing up hugely, mainly due to Platini. ^_^

Don't get bitter Twisted Chelsea haven't spent big since 2006 blindly, since then it's just money we can afford to spend, hence the positive balance sheet.
Man City only have a "decent" balance sheet due to the owner has made them sign a stupidly advertisement deal with his OWN company to pump in like £500million with the club LOL. That again was supposedly being looked into by UEFA this time last year....nothing has been done about it ^_^

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/769697-epl-debate-manchester-city-etihad-stadium-deal-evading-financial-fair-play

Is the source

Oh and i was wrong wasn't 500million sponsor deal was 400million LOL
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18724 Posts
January 21 2014 16:03 GMT
#11092
On January 22 2014 00:59 Pandemona wrote:
I do because of UEFA when it came out are like yes this will be enforced and yes no teams will be able to join if they are just spending cash wildly without having the correct funds to support the spending. Yet now PSG and Monaco have entered the big bucks league their are so many rumors of it being allowed to happen. Because their is no way little Monaco could even come close to a decent balance sheet with what they have spent and their club revenue. Unless, they are charging €1000 a ticket per home game in their 30,000 stadium. Same with PSG again without the revenue of a Barcelona/Real Madrid they have no way to have a decent balance sheet to send into UEFA at the end of this season.

Chelsea have worked towards it and have achieved it, if UEFA don't follow through on it, then thats them just messing up hugely, mainly due to Platini. ^_^

Don't get bitter Twisted Chelsea haven't spent big since 2006 blindly, since then it's just money we can afford to spend, hence the positive balance sheet.
Man City only have a "decent" balance sheet due to the owner has made them sign a stupidly advertisement deal with his OWN company to pump in like £500million with the club LOL. That again was supposedly being looked into by UEFA this time last year....nothing has been done about it ^_^

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/769697-epl-debate-manchester-city-etihad-stadium-deal-evading-financial-fair-play

Is the source

Oh and i was wrong wasn't 500million sponsor deal was 400million LOL


Just because chelsea have done it first does not make it right...
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 21 2014 16:10 GMT
#11093
We did it and have a balance sheet and revenue to show it is successful. The clubs doing it now are no where near successful enough in terms of revenue to be compared to us.

I believe we are due a new list from Deloitte soon so we can see what the revenue was like for the 12-13 season ^_^
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
January 21 2014 16:25 GMT
#11094
On January 22 2014 01:10 Pandemona wrote:
We did it and have a balance sheet and revenue to show it is successful. The clubs doing it now are no where near successful enough in terms of revenue to be compared to us.

I believe we are due a new list from Deloitte soon so we can see what the revenue was like for the 12-13 season ^_^

Chelsea's numbers are already known: £255.8m revenue and a loss of £49.4m.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6306 Posts
January 21 2014 16:26 GMT
#11095
And you still owe Abramovitch all the money in a very shady way. Chelsea's balance sheet is anything but healthy. Neither PSG, Monaco or City have had nearly the same amount of time as Chelsea to grow and fix their issues. You're such a Chelsea fanboy lol.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 21 2014 16:29 GMT
#11096
He pumped in the money as loans......this is very well documented. None of the money is ours from him it's all loans. Chelsea pitch owners still own the stadium another huge stumbling block in the issue of us trying to buy a new ground is that the team cannot leave unless it pays up big bucks to do so.

Yeah we know Chelsea revenue but we don't know it in terms of the big list of other clubs. I want to see the Deloitte list to see where we are comparing, the last list showed us above Arsenal into 5th place for the 1st time, i want to know if we are again making progress to taking 4th. (Which i doubt xD)
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18724 Posts
January 21 2014 16:33 GMT
#11097
On January 22 2014 01:10 Pandemona wrote:
We did it and have a balance sheet and revenue to show it is successful. The clubs doing it now are no where near successful enough in terms of revenue to be compared to us.

I believe we are due a new list from Deloitte soon so we can see what the revenue was like for the 12-13 season ^_^


They didnt have time chelsea did.
what would happen if ffp would start from 2006 on?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 21 2014 16:44 GMT
#11098
Then we wouldn't of done what we did? They wouldn't of just said FFP starts 2006. In middle of 2005.
The UEFA Financial Fair Play Regulations, first agreed in principle in September 2009
So it was announced in 2005 to then start taking place from financial records in
The 2011–12 football season is the first during which the regulations apply
so that is 2 years after it was announced. Then for this season 2013-2014 if you fail to have a greater loss than £4million you will be facing the FFP rule book. So we will see at the start of 2014-15 whether any teams get fined/kicked out of champions league or whatever.
Chelsea have altered their approach since knowing of the FFP, many other teams of who i stated have swindled the rule books. i.e getting owners to sponsor the team through a 3rd party sponsorship deal. PSG and Man City
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6306 Posts
January 21 2014 16:57 GMT
#11099
The debt to equity swap in 2009 is the stuff I was referring to. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/may/19/roman-abramovich-chelsea-loan-debt

How is that not swindling the rule book as well?
mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4177 Posts
January 21 2014 17:09 GMT
#11100
agreed with Robbie

Pande is usually has good points but in this case his fanboyism is making him blind,
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
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