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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3983 Posts
October 14 2013 09:01 GMT
#6261
Yeah, thanks again, Pande .
Still only 14 teams secured, 18 to go!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 09:12:12
October 14 2013 09:04 GMT
#6262
Yeah, it is quite amazing how many teams are still sweating on qualification! Still many teams and outcomes possible as well :D

On October 14 2013 18:06 Mandalor wrote:
wow that looks like a ton of work.
Thanks a lot, Pande


Yeah, im in the wrong job, i like doing writing on sports, especially football xD. Oh well
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 14 2013 09:06 GMT
#6263

FIFA World Cup Qualifiers
All times in BST
+ Show Spoiler [Fixtures] +

18:00 Portugal vs Luxembourg
Portugal need to beat Luxembourg and hope for Russia to loss, and on top, a 7 goal swing to get top spot. They are guaranteed 2nd place though

17:00 Cyprus vs Albania
Dead Rubber

19:45 Republic of Ireland vs Kazakhstan
Dead Rubber

19:45 Faroe Islands vs Austria
Dead Rubber

20:00 Scotland vs Croatia
Dead Rubber

19:00 Hungary vs Andorra

Hungary need a win to keep their dream of 2nd place. Andorra are out of contention.

19:00 Norway vs Iceland
Iceland need a win to guarantee 2nd place in the group, also the 3 points vs Norway would mean more points for the play off table. Norway are out

19:00 Switzerland vs Slovenia
Switzerland are qualified for Brazil. Slovenia need to win and hope Iceland fail to beat Norway to finish 2nd. Also again the 3 points are vital in the play off table.

19:00 Israel vs Northern Ireland
Dead Rubber

18:00 Lithuania vs Bosnia-Herzegovina
Bosnia are battling Greece for top spot in this group, both teams level on 22points. Simply Bosnia need to better Greece result to finish top.

18:00 Greece vs Liechtenstein

Greece have an all mighty goal difference to try and swing if Bosnia win and so do they. The best hope for Greece is that Bosnia fail to win and Greece win.

20:00 England vs Poland
England need to win and they finish top of the group, anything other than a win would see them fall into 2nd place and Ukraine top the group.

19:15 Denmark vs Malta
Denmark need to win to try and steal 2nd spot in this group, if Bulgaria win though, they would need a 7 goal swing to pip them to 2nd place.

19:30 Serbia vs FYR Macedonia
Dead Rubber

19:45 Italy vs Armenia
Armenia need to win, then hope the Bulgaria draw and Denmark also draw to stand a chance to steal 2nd spot.

19:45 Sweden vs Germany
Sweden could do with a result to make sure they get high as possible in the play off group table

20:00 Belgium vs Wales
Dead Rubber

19:00 Romania vs Estonia
Romania need to better Turkey's result or hope for a 4 goal swing with Turkey to to beat them to 2nd place.

19:00 Turkey vs Netherlands
Need to match Romania's result to guarantee 2nd spot. If they win they are 2nd, unless Romania beat there win by 4+goals

20:00 San Marino vs Ukraine
Ukraine need to win, to and hope England fail to win.

20:00 Montenegro vs Moldova

Dead Rubber

20:00 Spain vs Georgia
Spain need a point to finish top.

20:00 France vs Finland

Need to hope Spain lose and then win by 3goals

19:10 Latvia vs Slovakia
Dead Rubber

19:15 Bulgaria vs Czech Republic

Bulgaria need to win to assure 2nd spot, a draw or defeat make this group wide open. Czech Republic still have a shot of 2nd place, but might not have the points needed to make a decent dent in the playloff league.

18:00 Azerbaijan vs Russia
Russia need to avoid a defeat and a 7 goal swing to finish top.

00:30 Uruguay vs Argentina
Uruguay desperate for the points to gain automatic qualification and not have to go through play offs. They need a win and hope Chile lose and have 3goal swing. Or a 6goal swing and an Ecuador loss

03:15 Peru vs Bolivia
Dead Rubber

02:30 Jamaica vs Honduras
Anything but a defeat for Honduras in Jamaica assures them of qualification for Brazil, a defeat leaves the door open for Mexico

02:30 Panama vs USA
Panama have a feint hope of a play off spot going. They need to win and hope Mexico fail to win in Costa Rica.

00:30 Chile vs Ecuador
Neither side can afford to lose, a point for each team guarantees qualification though!

00:30 Paraguay vs Colombia
Dead Rubber

02:30 Costa Rica vs Mexico
Mexico need a win to keep a feint hope of automatic qualification alive, as well as guarantee atleast a play off spot. A defeat could let Panama in.

African Play Off 1st Leg

20:00 Ghana vs Egypt



+ Show Spoiler [Europe PlayOff] +

Europe Play Off Table

[image loading]

As you can see, Bulgaria are the only team at risk of failing to make the play offs even with a 2nd place finish. Turkey need atleast a point vs Netherlands to make it assured they are in the draw. A few random results might change this table, but i think this is pretty set.


ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
October 14 2013 09:06 GMT
#6264
wow that looks like a ton of work.
Thanks a lot, Pande
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 09:23:19
October 14 2013 09:21 GMT
#6265
Also worth noting is that this playday determines the world cup seeds. According to wikipedia, the best teams in the october FIFA world ranking (+brazil) that are qualified after these games will be the seeded teams. So teams in playoffs cant be seeded.
Based on the projections of this site, the seeded teams will be Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Colombia, Germany, Italy, SWITZERLAND, and the Netherlands.
Blick.ch (swiss "bild"-equivalent) recently posted that switzerland will be seeded if they win their last game and at least one of Italy (vs Armenia), Uruguay (vs Argentina) and Colombia (in Paraguay) does not win. I imagine this will probably futher question the fifa world ranking system.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 14 2013 09:39 GMT
#6266
Wow England back up to the dizzy heights of 12th xD Win vs Poland and we might have a respectful position at the end of the month!
Croatia being as high as they are baffles me, Colombia being rated as high are they are is an odd one. Brazil being placed so low even though they have been a good winning streak since June (Confed cup). Last one that annoys me is how low Netherlands are, they haven't done anything wrong :S and are outside the top 5, very peculiar.

As much as i want to complain as to how high Switzerland are, i can't find any grounds to do so. They have a 6Win 3Draw 0Loss record in their group which is not an "easy" one (nor is it a hard one) is quite respectable so you can't argue them being up their thanks to the idiotic FIFA ranking system xD
Maybe a fairer view would be them about 10th, but still, will make for a more entertaining world cup draw :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
October 14 2013 09:46 GMT
#6267
On October 14 2013 18:21 Mafe wrote:
Also worth noting is that this playday determines the world cup seeds. According to wikipedia, the best teams in the october FIFA world ranking (+brazil) that are qualified after these games will be the seeded teams. So teams in playoffs cant be seeded.
Based on the projections of this site, the seeded teams will be Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Colombia, Germany, Italy, SWITZERLAND, and the Netherlands.
Blick.ch (swiss "bild"-equivalent) recently posted that switzerland will be seeded if they win their last game and at least one of Italy (vs Armenia), Uruguay (vs Argentina) and Colombia (in Paraguay) does not win. I imagine this will probably futher question the fifa world ranking system.


Kinda like it. I like groups of death because it makes the group stage more interesting than the 2 good 2 bad team set which you can say right after the draw who will advance. Also we could have more underdog stories with that.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#6268
Yeah nothing beats Netherlands Portugal Germany group from Euros, damn that was the best entertainment in years!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6243 Posts
October 14 2013 09:58 GMT
#6269
I'd rather forget that tournament....
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 10:09:42
October 14 2013 10:08 GMT
#6270
On October 14 2013 18:58 RvB wrote:
I'd rather forget that tournament....


You want to forget that? Hmm someone in my head is singing "ohne Holland fahren wir zur WM"

+ Show Spoiler +
A common song in germany with the rivalry between the national teams. It means "without the netherlands we go to the wm (Welmeisterschaft = World Cup)" which comes from the World Cup 2002 were the netherlands werent able to qualify. By the way with couach Luis van Gaal.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 11:27:26
October 14 2013 11:20 GMT
#6271
Turkish National team players will get 300,000 euro if they manage to qualify for WC 2014.

Slaven Bilic visited Fatih Terim in Turkish National team camp + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
. He met with Beşiktaş players and told them "You will beat Netherlands, and you will do it for Fatih Terim. You will take Turkish national team to WC Brazil and Beşiktaş will be proud of you".

im so hyped :> :> :> :>
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 11:45:14
October 14 2013 11:39 GMT
#6272
Haha we'll give no presents though :p

To get a seeded spot in the world cup group stage draw, it stands as such:
Spain, Argentina, Germany, Belgium and Brasil are certain to be seeded.

3 spots left, which will be filled by either Italy, Colombia, Uruguay, Netherlands or Switzerland. For us to get a seeded spot, we have to win against Turkey and I believe 2 of the 4 scenario's have to happen:

- Italy lose
- Colombia draw/lose
- Uruguay draw/lose
- Switzerland draw/lose

I do think the system works though. We've been playing against pretty terrible teams in qualification and the draw against Estonia probably cost us a lot of points. Winning against poor opposition doesn't land you a lot of points. Still weird how high up Switzerland and Uruguay are though, especially Uruguay who has been doing pretty bad in the qualification. I guess the teams in South America are a bit higher up the ranking though, so less points are lost if you draw/lose against the likes of Chile, Argentina or Colombia.

Oh and Turkey definitely has to win against us to get into a play-off spot, otherwise Romania will most likely get it. They'll only need 1 point against Estonia if we beat Turkey.
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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
October 14 2013 12:28 GMT
#6273
A miracle must happen so we (Bulgaria) qualify. We must win Czech with more than 3 goals, Netherlands should win Turkey and Slovenia has to make a draw againt Switzerland. Not really possible imo. The rules this year are so stupid, why in the hell Europer loses one spot to North America for the world cup??
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
October 14 2013 12:37 GMT
#6274
On October 14 2013 21:28 mdb wrote:
A miracle must happen so we (Bulgaria) qualify. We must win Czech with more than 3 goals, Netherlands should win Turkey and Slovenia has to make a draw againt Switzerland. Not really possible imo. The rules this year are so stupid, why in the hell Europer loses one spot to North America for the world cup??

The places for the continents are constant since 2006, with the hosting continent always getting an extra free solt for the hosts. What do you mean?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 13:00:24
October 14 2013 12:47 GMT
#6275

The FA have defended their decision to sell 18,000 tickets to Polish fans for Tuesday night's World Cup qualifier.


God dammit >.< i had a feeling this game was going be a borderline home game/equal stadium! 18,000 Polish fans been allowed to purchase tickets, on top of ones that will go anyway is going to make it in the 20 thousands ;_;
So sad when a home game gets treated like this! Why on earth would the ENGLISH FA want to burden the task any more by trying to make it a harder game xD
Oh well, lets hope Poland don't turn up >.<
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
October 14 2013 12:55 GMT
#6276
Colombia is sick and for me a stronger dark horse than belgium.
They have so many good players and falcao as the final boss, xD.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
butch
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium684 Posts
October 14 2013 13:29 GMT
#6277
they play a friendly on november 15th (Belgium vs Colombia)
Marauder Die Die
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2094 Posts
October 14 2013 13:39 GMT
#6278
Colombia is going to be really awesome to watch, also because they have many good players especially Falcao but also the fact that it's the first time they qualify for the WC in 15 years. The country is a strong fanbase and with Colombia being in same continent as WC hosts i think the support and atmosphere is going to be amazing. I'm very much looking forward to see his country returning on the international stage again
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 13:43:28
October 14 2013 13:41 GMT
#6279
On October 14 2013 22:29 butch wrote:
they play a friendly on november 15th (Belgium vs Colombia)


Well that is clearly going to be awesome :D

Main reason why i would say Belgium > Colombia would be the goalkeeper. Courtois is imo top 5 keeper in the world right now, that alone wins you games.
On top of having a similar outfield squad to Colombia minus a Falcao, but Benteke/Lukaku clearly not a bad option. Maybe also Belgium have a better defense in general too.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Dust14
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 15:10:58
October 14 2013 14:13 GMT
#6280
On October 14 2013 18:21 Mafe wrote:
Also worth noting is that this playday determines the world cup seeds. According to wikipedia, the best teams in the october FIFA world ranking (+brazil) that are qualified after these games will be the seeded teams. So teams in playoffs cant be seeded.
Based on the projections of this site, the seeded teams will be Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Colombia, Germany, Italy, SWITZERLAND, and the Netherlands.
Blick.ch (swiss "bild"-equivalent) recently posted that switzerland will be seeded if they win their last game and at least one of Italy (vs Armenia), Uruguay (vs Argentina) and Colombia (in Paraguay) does not win. I imagine this will probably futher question the fifa world ranking system.

It's already wrong as that table's prediction was that we would lose vs Croatia and we didn't which puts us ahead of Switzerland and into a seeded place.

This should be the top 10 as of friday
[image loading]

So that Blick guy is correct ^^

PS making a decent list/table on TL is a bitch, paint+imageuploader ftw
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