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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
 ):(in football)"Strong attack win matches, strong defense win championships" Brazil have very good attackers, strong as Germany or almost as Argentina; but a hell strong defense (S class: Luiz, Silva, Alves, Marcelo, Gustavo). That make them the number one candidate for the WC2014. | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
As said before, never the winner of the Conf Cup won the Wc afterwards. It's just not the same level. Is it really that Spain we would see in a WC final? I doubt it. Before, everybody saw this Conf Cup as 'too much' after this long season, and we were all expecting boring friendly games. We got lucky, the whole competition was very enjoyable but it doesnt make it more an important title to get... Imo, the favorites for the tournament next year are Germany (because they are hungry) and Argentina (because they are hungry and used to South American games). After that there is Spain (still very good but starting to feel tired) and Brazil (can be awesome but there will be a huge pressure from the brazilian fans, the medias, etc...) | ||
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sharkie
Austria18631 Posts
On July 01 2013 10:55 WillyWanker wrote: Wow wow relax, it was only a Confederations Cup guys... Brazil was heavily criticized before this competition and now they just proved they can perform at a very high level. But that's it, they don't become the favorite after 2-3 good games... As said before, never the winner of the Conf Cup won the Wc afterwards. It's just not the same level. Is it really that Spain we would see in a WC final? I doubt it. Before, everybody saw this Conf Cup as 'too much' after this long season, and we were all expecting boring friendly games. We got lucky, the whole competition was very enjoyable but it doesnt make it more an important title to get... Imo, the favorites for the tournament next year are Germany (because they are hungry) and Argentina (because they are hungry and used to South American games). After that there is Spain (still very good but starting to feel tired) and Brazil (can be awesome but there will be a huge pressure from the brazilian fans, the medias, etc...) only a messi fan would rate Argentina over Brazil in a Brazilian home WC | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
Why so mad sharkie? | ||
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Raidern
Brazil3811 Posts
Now to the facts about the game: Spain > Brazil, just not today. Brazil wanted it a lot more it seemed and we also got lucky with the timing of the goals. Not easy to play your regular game when you allow a goal in under 2min in the 1st half and then before the 48min mark in the 2nd half. Being realistic we have chances next year if we play like in the final. I'd say Brazil is one of the top 8 contenders: Spain, Germany, Argentina and then Br, Italy, Netherlands, France, England have about the same chances imo. | ||
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ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
On July 01 2013 13:32 Raidern wrote: Why are people using some statistic as stupid as "never before the a confed cup champion won the wc"? Never before 58 Brazil had won a WC, same as Argentina in 78, France 98, Spain 2010. I hate journalists stats, they are just stupid. For the first time in the history of mankind Brazil beat Spain in a confed cup final, yay let's put that shit on wikipedia! Now to the facts about the game: Spain > Brazil, just not today. Brazil wanted it a lot more it seemed and we also got lucky with the timing of the goals. Not easy to play your regular game when you allow a goal in under 2min in the 1st half and then before the 48min mark in the 2nd half. Being realistic we have chances next year if we play like in the final. I'd say Brazil is one of the top 8 contenders: Spain, Germany, Argentina and then Br, Italy, Netherlands, France, England have about the same chances imo. Brazil at home is definitely in the Spain, Germany, Argentina group, not that second group. I would be very surprised if one of those top 4 teams didn't win it though. I mean their D line is so ridiculously good that they can always play with anyone. David Luiz (who has emerged to be amazing) and Thiago Silva with Dante backing them, and then Dani Alves and Marcelo on the flanks, and Luis Gustavo in front of them, that's just totally stacked. | ||
GTR
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
I hope everyone enjoyed this competition, what a fine display of great attacking football. Goals galore and some sublime individual performances! All capped off with that great final last night. Neymar coming to the stage on the 2nd biggest of them all (a home final in the Maracana) and now Brazil have got some huge pressure to win the world cup next year ^_^ Still they deserve their success they earned after this even so good luck to them in preparations for next summer. A little note, Del Bosque said before the Italy game that Spain were tired, and "wanted to go home now" due to the end of season fatigue and the heat they were having to deal with. So lets not write Spain off from next year just yet...i for one am going to jump on this opportunity and stick £20 on Spain to win next year due to their odds being increased and Brazil probably pushed to being favorites. Also for you English...last team to beat Both of those Confederation cup finalists? ENGLAND WOOOO ENGLAND AWESOME XDDDD | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
On July 01 2013 17:04 Pandemona wrote: WOW I hope everyone enjoyed this competition, what a fine display of great attacking football. Goals galore and some sublime individual performances! All capped off with that great final last night. Neymar coming to the stage on the 2nd biggest of them all (a home final in the Maracana) and now Brazil have got some huge pressure to win the world cup next year ^_^ Still they deserve their success they earned after this even so good luck to them in preparations for next summer. A little note, Del Bosque said before the Italy game that Spain were tired, and "wanted to go home now" due to the end of season fatigue and the heat they were having to deal with. So lets not write Spain off from next year just yet...i for one am going to jump on this opportunity and stick £20 on Spain to win next year due to their odds being increased and Brazil probably pushed to being favorites. Also for you English...last team to beat Both of those Confederation cup finalists? ENGLAND WOOOO ENGLAND AWESOME XDDDDThe End of Season Fatigue will still be there next season and they may have injuries on some key players too..The Heat will stay the same..Would be Laughable if Spain came out with the same excuse again. | ||
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Wazabo
Italy124 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Confederations Cup Final ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png ) Brazil vs ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Spain.svg/22px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png) Spain Kick Off 21:30 GMT (+00:00) Referee: Bjorn Kippers + Show Spoiler [Result] + Brazil 3-0 Spain + Show Spoiler [Champions 2013!] + Brazil+ Show Spoiler [Player Ratings] + Brazil Júlio César - 7/10 Dani Alves - 6/10 Thiago Silva - 6/10 David Luiz - 7/10 Marcelo - 6/10 Paulinho - 6/10 Luiz Gustavo - 6/10 Oscar - 7/10 Hulk - 6/10 Neymar - 8/10 Fred - 7/10 SUBS: Jo 5/10 - Jadson 6/10 - Hernanes 6/10 Spain Casillas - 5/10 Arbeloa - 4/10 Pique - 4/10 ![[image loading]](http://l.yimg.com/i/i/eu/sp/c7.png) Ramos - 5/10 Alba - 6/10 Busquets - 5/10 Xavi - 5/10 Iniesta - 6/10 Pedro - 6/10 Torres - 5/10 Mata - 5/10 SUBS: Azpilicueta 6/10 - Navas 6/10 - Villa 5/10 3rd - 4th Place Play Off ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/03/Flag_of_Italy.svg/22px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png) Italy vs ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Flag_of_Uruguay.svg/22px-Flag_of_Uruguay.svg.png) Uruguay Kick Off 16:00 GMT (+00:00) Referee: Djamel Haimoudi (Algeria) + Show Spoiler [Result] + Italy 2-2 aet Uruguay + Show Spoiler [3rd Place] + Italy Win 3-2 on Penalties+ Show Spoiler [Player Ratings] + Uruguay Muslera - 6/10 M. Pereira - 6/10 Lugano - 5/10 D. Godín - 6/10 M. Cáceres - 5/10 Arévalo - 6/10 Gargano - 6/10 C. Rodríguez - 5/10 Cavani - 8/10 Suarez - 5/10 Forlan - 6/10 SUBS: Pérez 5/10 - González 6/10 - Á. Pereira 5/10 Italy Buffon - 7/10 Maggio - 6/10 Astori - 7/10 Chiellini - 6/10 De Sciglio - 6/10 De Rossi 6/10 Canreva 6/10 Montolivo - 5/10 Diamanti - 7/10 El Shaarawy - 6/10 Gilardino - 5/10 SUBS: Aquilani 6/10 - Giaccherini 5/10 - Bonucci 6/10 | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
Too bad he gives examples of unsportsmanlike conduct almost every game. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On July 01 2013 17:22 pyro19 wrote: The End of Season Fatigue will still be there next season and they may have injuries on some key players too..The Heat will stay the same..Would be Laughable if Spain came out with the same excuse again. Yes but the season always finishes 2-3 weeks before hand in Europe when a world cup starts. For example England domestic finishes May 14th - 24th May Champs league final which will be the last game in Europe i believe and then the World Cup starts 12th June 2014. A full 3 weeks preparation before the tournament begins, and that is if you play in the champs league final. Im sure the 23 players that don't will have another week off before it starts! Thus the Spanish will not be as tired as that, and they will know the conditions better and thus be a better side. Don't forget this Spanish side still arguably is the greatest side we have seen since the Brazil squad of the 80s. Don't be so quick to write them off! | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
Great play by Brazil and they can only get better when their players start playing in Europe next season. It's looking like it's gonna be a great tournament next year. Definitely looking forward to it :D. Paulinho MVP btw in that match. Matches with 2 attacking teams are always the best <3 | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
Barcelona are going to keep exhausting Messi on every occasion however leaving him injured for the world cup. Meanwhile Guardiola takes Bayern to the first back to back champions league win ever, leaving many of the German players fatigued. In the end Spain is still the freshest European side apart from a youthful Dutch side whom surprise everyone by playing fabulous football despite the absence of Robben and Sneijder and knocks them out in the semifinals. In the finals the Netherlands however loses against the hosts Brazil. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Oh the fucking pain  i hate world cups xDOne day though...we will be able to take penalties and win a shoot out! One day | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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jim_knopf
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