On July 01 2013 08:49 Makro wrote:
it looks good for bresil for 2014
it looks good for bresil for 2014
it did 2010 too, Brazil should have won that WC too, but its football
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sharkie
Austria18386 Posts
On July 01 2013 08:49 Makro wrote: it looks good for bresil for 2014 it did 2010 too, Brazil should have won that WC too, but its football | ||
Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 01 2013 08:47 sharkie wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 08:46 WillyWanker wrote: On July 01 2013 08:43 Looms wrote: On July 01 2013 08:40 WillyWanker wrote: Of course there are some good captains, and usually Puyol is here for that. But saying that it's "classic Spain/Barca" to do this is at least as false as when I said every team in Europe does it... Sure it's more frequent in Spain (Madrid does exactly the same) but it's because there is no punishment for this... But I've seen many teams do this when the players don't like the decision... PSG (that I follow) does it, Ballack ran after the referee in a certain game I shouldn't mention... "Well they do it so WHY CANT I?!?" Spain is pretty notorious for doing it... You missed my point. Of course I think it's bad; it wastes time, it's never punished and the referee can sometimes take a bad decision because of it. But saying Spain and Barcelona are the king of this is just ridiculous. Just watch some South American games or Italian games and see what happens... Spain is just making people mad because of their dominance, so every little thing that they don't do perfectly is seen as an evil thing... No, Spain/Barca/Real are definitely the kings of it. Even their fans agree with that lol Their certainly higher profile... I think if anyone would agree with you on its primarily because theyre just tired of people whining about it and take a "so what" attitude. Thats besides the point though.. Spain were pretty flat and Brazil was tactically and mentally so far ahead today it was quite silly.. On July 01 2013 08:53 sharkie wrote: it did 2010 too, Brazil should have won that WC too, but its football That team was way to much steel and not very much substance.. so not really. and mad old too.. The most creativity you saw out of them in the knockouts that year came from Felipe Melo.. wheres he now ? lol | ||
SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On July 01 2013 08:53 sharkie wrote: it did 2010 too, Brazil should have won that WC too, but its football IIRC no team that won the Confederations Cup went on to win the WC in the next year. | ||
Abominous
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 01 2013 08:55 SKC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 08:53 sharkie wrote: On July 01 2013 08:49 Makro wrote: it looks good for bresil for 2014 it did 2010 too, Brazil should have won that WC too, but its football IIRC no team that won the Confederations Cup went on to win the WC in the next year. Hasn't every confederations cup been won by Brazil and France? Brazil should have let USA win in 2009 ![]() | ||
Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 01 2013 08:56 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 08:55 SKC wrote: On July 01 2013 08:53 sharkie wrote: On July 01 2013 08:49 Makro wrote: it looks good for bresil for 2014 it did 2010 too, Brazil should have won that WC too, but its football IIRC no team that won the Confederations Cup went on to win the WC in the next year. Hasn't every confederations cup been won by Brazil and France? Brazil should have let USA win in 2009 ![]() Think Mexico has one in there.. dont remember when.. one of those.. "if it wasnt for.." facts. | ||
sharkie
Austria18386 Posts
On July 01 2013 08:53 Rebs wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 08:47 sharkie wrote: On July 01 2013 08:46 WillyWanker wrote: On July 01 2013 08:43 Looms wrote: On July 01 2013 08:40 WillyWanker wrote: Of course there are some good captains, and usually Puyol is here for that. But saying that it's "classic Spain/Barca" to do this is at least as false as when I said every team in Europe does it... Sure it's more frequent in Spain (Madrid does exactly the same) but it's because there is no punishment for this... But I've seen many teams do this when the players don't like the decision... PSG (that I follow) does it, Ballack ran after the referee in a certain game I shouldn't mention... "Well they do it so WHY CANT I?!?" Spain is pretty notorious for doing it... You missed my point. Of course I think it's bad; it wastes time, it's never punished and the referee can sometimes take a bad decision because of it. But saying Spain and Barcelona are the king of this is just ridiculous. Just watch some South American games or Italian games and see what happens... Spain is just making people mad because of their dominance, so every little thing that they don't do perfectly is seen as an evil thing... No, Spain/Barca/Real are definitely the kings of it. Even their fans agree with that lol Their certainly higher profile... I think if anyone would agree with you on its primarily because theyre just tired of people whining about it and take a "so what" attitude. Thats besides the point though.. Spain were pretty flat and Brazil was tactically and mentally so far ahead today it was quite silly.. Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 08:53 sharkie wrote: On July 01 2013 08:49 Makro wrote: it looks good for bresil for 2014 it did 2010 too, Brazil should have won that WC too, but its football That team was way to much steel and not very much substance.. so not really. and mad old too.. The most creativity you saw out of them in the knockouts that year came from Felipe Melo.. wheres he now ? lol Brazil still would have won it if Elano hadnt got that horrible injury. | ||
Copymizer
Denmark2084 Posts
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
My conclusions: 1. Fred is bad indeed, but so lucky that makes him look almost good. 2. Neymar is fucking amazingly talented, best player on the field, just needs to fix his diving problem. 3. Julio César is definitely the best goalkeeper Brazil can field, and top class. 4. David Luiz man, David Luiz and Thiago Silva are top notch defenders, really solid players. 5. Oscar is lacking, he is incredibly good but he definitely underperformed. 6. This group is very focused, and I praise Felipão for not bringing Ronaldinho Gaúcho, because that asshole would fuck it up really bad. | ||
Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
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Terminal
United Kingdom2109 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On July 01 2013 09:01 sharkie wrote: Brazil still would have won it if Elano hadnt got that horrible injury. yeah Brazil with and without him was like night and day. But having a good bench is also a quality to have and Brazil really lacked a bench that year. | ||
Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 01 2013 09:01 sharkie wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 08:53 Rebs wrote: On July 01 2013 08:47 sharkie wrote: On July 01 2013 08:46 WillyWanker wrote: On July 01 2013 08:43 Looms wrote: On July 01 2013 08:40 WillyWanker wrote: Of course there are some good captains, and usually Puyol is here for that. But saying that it's "classic Spain/Barca" to do this is at least as false as when I said every team in Europe does it... Sure it's more frequent in Spain (Madrid does exactly the same) but it's because there is no punishment for this... But I've seen many teams do this when the players don't like the decision... PSG (that I follow) does it, Ballack ran after the referee in a certain game I shouldn't mention... "Well they do it so WHY CANT I?!?" Spain is pretty notorious for doing it... You missed my point. Of course I think it's bad; it wastes time, it's never punished and the referee can sometimes take a bad decision because of it. But saying Spain and Barcelona are the king of this is just ridiculous. Just watch some South American games or Italian games and see what happens... Spain is just making people mad because of their dominance, so every little thing that they don't do perfectly is seen as an evil thing... No, Spain/Barca/Real are definitely the kings of it. Even their fans agree with that lol Their certainly higher profile... I think if anyone would agree with you on its primarily because theyre just tired of people whining about it and take a "so what" attitude. Thats besides the point though.. Spain were pretty flat and Brazil was tactically and mentally so far ahead today it was quite silly.. On July 01 2013 08:53 sharkie wrote: On July 01 2013 08:49 Makro wrote: it looks good for bresil for 2014 it did 2010 too, Brazil should have won that WC too, but its football That team was way to much steel and not very much substance.. so not really. and mad old too.. The most creativity you saw out of them in the knockouts that year came from Felipe Melo.. wheres he now ? lol Brazil still would have won it if Elano hadnt got that horrible injury. This is like saying they wouldve won in 98 if Ronaldo wasnt ill.. come on.. | ||
Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 01 2013 09:18 Kralic wrote: I am glad it was anyone but Spain winning this! Helps keep the sport healthy when one team isn't stomping everyone for so long(I know, I know it is only one loss for Spain in a final). I think the problem is Spain hasnt been "stomping" anyone for a few years now, but because they win so much it irks people. Theyve been grafting out wins even though teams have a pretty good idea what ruffles them. I dont believe they've been indisputably better than other teams for a while now (they dont even have world class strikers anymore). Theyve had a little luck and at times just been barely good enough on the base of one or 2 virtuoso's when its really mattered. And credit to them for that but these past Euro's were really open heading into them and so is the 2014.. Also about Fred, hes been in and out for a few years now and his purple patch may just be hitting at a bad time because hes really not as good as this tournament is making him look . He works hard though, but so did the rest of his team.. | ||
DDie
Brazil2369 Posts
On June 27 2013 17:29 Twisted wrote: Every team in this competition have looked lackluster, especially compared to Spain. Spain's dominating SO ridiculously hard. I expect an easy stomp vs Italy and an even easier stomp against Brasil. Interesting.. | ||
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United States11378 Posts
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Brazil6910 Posts
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