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Update: Draft dates/times have been added. These dates were the absolute best to accomodate the maximum number of people. If you can't make it, I suggest you set your pre-draft rankings and let yahoo autodraft for you. It usually isn't a major hindrance to success if you set your order properly. If the draft date/time works for you in one league and not the other, let me know and we may be able to swap teams.
Relevant info:
- Yahoo sports
- H2H Standard scoring with 13 players per team and 12 managers
- I cheated to win last year and will do it again this year*
* Just kidding... I had to point out that I won last year somehow
League #1 URL
ID: 26856
http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/teamliquid2012
Draft on Oct 20 @ 1200 EST
League #2 URL
ID: 26976
http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/teamliquid20122
Draft on Oct 13 @ 1200 EST
ESPN Auction League
http://games.espn.go.com/fba/leagueoffice?leagueId=62892&seasonId=2013
10 player Rotisserie league, 10 slots per team
Auction draft, $200 budget per team
Auction date is Saturday, October 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM ET
Here's a link to last year's thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298259¤tpage=3
Players Signed-up:
+ Show Spoiler +League #1
DoomsVille*
MassHysteria
a176
jtbem
darkmetal505
VENDIZ
zeratul_jf*
rod-
jeefzors*
Kenpachi
OnjoS
SafeWord
League #2
DoomsVille
Zorkmid
krndandaman*
FindMeInKenya
Mig
ChezGod
Daozzt
Pieismyign
hipaul
]343[
* denotes players willing to play in multiple leagues
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sure sign me up. this year will be a complete clusterfuck with all the roster changes.
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i never played before o_o.. i understand its a lot more complicated that fantasy bw (:D...) but i always was interested so i have a couple of questions.
How should i prepare myself to make a competent fantasy team?
How much time is spent per week on average?
Is there any past fantasy draft that i should look over to get a good gist of what will occur?
that being said if newbies are welcome, I'm interested
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Hell yeah! I know rod from last year also would love to play (he's PasswordIsTaco from last season) too! Had a blast.. and this time I'll be there for the draft!!
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Would love to play agian this year, last year was so much fun. I'm hoping for more active players this year tho.
edit: I'm PasswordIsTaco from last season
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On September 25 2012 15:56 Kenpachi wrote:
i never played before o_o.. i understand its a lot more complicated that fantasy bw (:D...) but i always was interested so i have a couple of questions.
How should i prepare myself to make a competent fantasy team?
How much time is spent per week on average?
Is there any past fantasy draft that i should look over to get a good gist of what will occur?
that being said if newbies are welcome, I'm interested
I played fantasty bball for the first time last year, it's really easy to understand and play (I have some years of experience with fantasy football tho). I think I spent around 5-10 min per day to setup my team. Take a look at the thread from last year (linked in the op) for answer on some simple questions, or ask them here, and I'm sure people will help you out.
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We're getting pretty close to full. We got 8 here already and I know my buddy from last year (OnjoS) is back in again. So we're looking for 3 or so more people. I guess I'll start a second league if we have the demand for it (I wouldn't mind being in a second one or someone else can head that project).
On September 25 2012 15:56 Kenpachi wrote:
i never played before o_o.. i understand its a lot more complicated that fantasy bw (:D...) but i always was interested so i have a couple of questions.
How should i prepare myself to make a competent fantasy team?
How much time is spent per week on average?
Is there any past fantasy draft that i should look over to get a good gist of what will occur?
that being said if newbies are welcome, I'm interested
I'd say you prepare yourself by getting an account on yahoo and learning the format (standard categories, head-to-head, 13 players per team) and then making yourself a preliminary list of players you want to draft. We're drafting 156 players during the draft (12 teams x 13 players) but making a list of your top 156 is probably a waste of time. Instead maybe make a list of a few players you think will do excellent and decide where you want to draft them. Maybe something like 2 players per round depending on your draft position (which you'll find out when we set up the league). For example, if you're drafting #1, you want to decide whether you want Lebron or KD. After that, don't even worry about ranking the top 10 guys because you won't be drafting any of them. Focus on round 2 and then 3 etc.
Time spent per week? A few hours. I like to pop in a few times a day to see who other people are picking up, if anyones available on the waiver wire I'm interested in, FAs, etc. etc. But these are quick checks, so maybe a 10 minute stop a few times a day? On average you're probably wasting 30-60 mins a day at most (usually while you're doing other things).
I wouldn't bother with past drafts. You can do mock drafts (I think yahoo has that functionality) if you want. But I would look at pre-draft rankings on yahoo (and other sites if you want) to get a general feel for where a player you're interested may be drafted.
If you're still interested, go ahead and post in here. But please, don't commit to it unless you can be active all season. Even if you're in dead last without a chance in hell of winning, try to stay active. Just so you don't ruin it for others. I might even expand the playoffs to 8 teams this year to encourage people to stay active.
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Im assuming you will post a poll or something to decide when the drafting will take place?
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How much time you spend depends on the format. Head to Head points requires the least time in terms of analyzing players for the draft and even for making line ups. H2H favors "pick the best player available" or "pick whoever scores the most points".
If you're doing any kind of Roto league or H2H Category league then it takes much more analysis to make a good team since "best player available" is pretty useless and usually ends up in a crap team.
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On September 26 2012 04:13 DoomsVille wrote:+ Show Spoiler +We're getting pretty close to full. We got 8 here already and I know my buddy from last year (OnjoS) is back in again. So we're looking for 3 or so more people. I guess I'll start a second league if we have the demand for it (I wouldn't mind being in a second one or someone else can head that project). On September 25 2012 15:56 Kenpachi wrote:
i never played before o_o.. i understand its a lot more complicated that fantasy bw (:D...) but i always was interested so i have a couple of questions.
How should i prepare myself to make a competent fantasy team?
How much time is spent per week on average?
Is there any past fantasy draft that i should look over to get a good gist of what will occur?
that being said if newbies are welcome, I'm interested I'd say you prepare yourself by getting an account on yahoo and learning the format (standard categories, head-to-head, 13 players per team) and then making yourself a preliminary list of players you want to draft. We're drafting 156 players during the draft (12 teams x 13 players) but making a list of your top 156 is probably a waste of time. Instead maybe make a list of a few players you think will do excellent and decide where you want to draft them. Maybe something like 2 players per round depending on your draft position (which you'll find out when we set up the league). For example, if you're drafting #1, you want to decide whether you want Lebron or KD. After that, don't even worry about ranking the top 10 guys because you won't be drafting any of them. Focus on round 2 and then 3 etc. Time spent per week? A few hours. I like to pop in a few times a day to see who other people are picking up, if anyones available on the waiver wire I'm interested in, FAs, etc. etc. But these are quick checks, so maybe a 10 minute stop a few times a day? On average you're probably wasting 30-60 mins a day at most (usually while you're doing other things). I wouldn't bother with past drafts. You can do mock drafts (I think yahoo has that functionality) if you want. But I would look at pre-draft rankings on yahoo (and other sites if you want) to get a general feel for where a player you're interested may be drafted. If you're still interested, go ahead and post in here. But please, don't commit to it unless you can be active all season. Even if you're in dead last without a chance in hell of winning, try to stay active. Just so you don't ruin it for others. I might even expand the playoffs to 8 teams this year to encourage people to stay active.
it sounds epic man. ill definitely put effort into it.
/in if possible
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On September 26 2012 08:41 zeratul_jf wrote:
Im assuming you will post a poll or something to decide when the drafting will take place?
Nah. I'm just going to wait til we're full and then I'll talk to each person to decide what day/time works. Odds are we will draft on a weekend some time in the early afternoon US time so we can accomodate both EU/NA players.
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I'm interested! Love basketball but I have never done a fantasy league for it before :D
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Ok. There's definitely enough interest for two leagues. So well see if we can set that up.
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So far we have 15 people. If we get up to 24, we can easily do two separate leagues. Or even 20, we could do 12 and 8 or something like that.
Anyone interested in participating in multiple leagues? That way if we don't have enough, a few can join both and fill em up.
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United States4714 Posts
I am interested in playing.
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I would definitely be interested in joining one of the leagues -- Fantasy Basketball is my favorite by far.
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Ok. I set up the first one already. Invites have been PMed to everyone in it. Going to set up the second one later today. I'll hold off on doubling up players until we get really close to the draft. Hopefully we won't need to double up. I'm guessing we wonky based on the interest so far.
Btw, the draft date and time I've set is temporary. If the time and date that is set doesn't work for you, PM me. Hopefully the setup right now works for everyone.
Ideally I'd want to draft as close to the start of the season as possible and during the weekend.
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Also, making them both publicly viewable so anyone else can follow along.
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Are you guys interested in putting in a deposit to encourage season long activity?
Basically we can each put in 10 or 20 bucks. If you're active all season, you get it back. If at some point you give up, you lose he deposit and the winner gets it. If even one player disagrees with the idea we won't do it. But I might enforce it next year if activity drops at the end of the year.
Or another option is just a buyin league of 10 bucks or something. We could even do one free league, one buy-in. I'm open to ideas.
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The Bench Mob is confirmed for season two! With The White Mamba joining the coaching ranks I know my logo will bring me strategic power unknown to regular people!
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Well Spoken Token!!! Yes im down to put 10-20$ in.
If anyone takes Kevin Love, i'll haunt you in your sleep....
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I would be down to play in a buyin league.
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Sorry for the dumb question, but how do I join the league? I'm staring at the yahoo sports page that was linked.
Also if there's a buy-in league, I'd be down to play too.
edit: nvm, didn't see the pm
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confirmed. Brave Kens 
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Thanks for the invite, I'd be willing to pay.
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Ya, I am down for money as well and successfully in, thank you.
And Balling Zealots back in action. Earthly and mortal teams like the BenchMob aint beating them this time.
* And Doomsville did cheat to win. I don't know how yet but he did  .
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A better question is probably... Does anyone not want to do a pay league?
Also, the only reason I won last year is darkmetals team injured itself to non-existence towards the end of the season.
Hopefully this year wont end quite so anti-climatically.
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On September 28 2012 03:22 SafeWord wrote:
Well Spoken Token!!! Yes im down to put 10-20$ in.
If anyone takes Kevin Love, i'll haunt you in your sleep....
hahah he's mine this year, vendiz stole him from me last year with autopick!!!
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Never tried fantasy basketball so id prefer the free league.
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The only person that can guarantee they get klove is the dude that can fix the draft order :D
That said, I don't think kloves gonna be as good as he was last year (stats wise). More depth on that team.
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Sign me up please!
Been playing fantasy bball for a while now and would love to play with people here at TL! By the way, does anyone prefer playing rotisserie here? Also, did you guys play with any other stats aside from standard ones (FG%,FT%, 3PM, REB, AST, PTS, STL, BLK, TO) last year?
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Nah we play standard categories H2H. We try to be as noob friendly as possible.
I think next year I'll definitely do two separate leagues. One of them pay to enter and the other free. And then we can discuss what other options we want in the pay league.
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Just joined Teamliquid 2 league!
On September 29 2012 04:35 krndandaman wrote:since its free maybe we can have a fun bet something like all the participants must change their sigs to what the winner wants to put for 90 days (to rub salt on those wounds)
I am down for something along that line. Maybe we can have a poll for it Also, I am open to pay league as well if we have enough people who are down.
Lastly, is the draft time and date final? I can't make it for sure on the 27th T__T Can we possibly change the date and time if there are also other people who can't make it at this date and time? Perhaps another poll?
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It's not final. I'm going to try to sort that out this weekend.
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On September 28 2012 22:34 rod- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 03:22 SafeWord wrote:
Well Spoken Token!!! Yes im down to put 10-20$ in.
If anyone takes Kevin Love, i'll haunt you in your sleep....
hahah he's mine this year, vendiz stole him from me last year with autopick!!!
 ((((( I will be your best friend if you don't???
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United States10328 Posts
hi I'd like to sign up for league 2
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Alright. Decision on the draft.
What I'm going to do is PM everyone and ask you to tell me which of the following days do not work for you:
Oct 13, 14, 20, 21, 27, or 28 at 1300 EST.
Whichever days have the least number of people that can't make it will be the day/time we draft.
Please in your reply only include days you absolutely can't make it. Don't just give me a list of days that are most convenient, give me a list of days that are impossible. Hopefully we can find a day in each league that works for everyone.
Also, if I don't receive a response by this weekend I'll assume all days work for you.
EDIT: if you didn't receive a PM about the draft date let me know.
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off topic question from a 2nd year commisioner. setting up a 12 man/13-per roster league this year. ran my first league last year in a 66 game, condensed season and put the "games per week" max at 36, but it seemed necessary since there were 5-6 games per team, per week. now that we're back to an 82 game season, i'm wondering what you all recommend for the "games per week" setting. don't wanna do 40. was thinking 34. 'preciated.
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Is there a spot available? Id like to join. Been playing fantasy for a couple of years.
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On October 02 2012 15:40 lemonfuzz9 wrote:
off topic question from a 2nd year commisioner. setting up a 12 man/13-per roster league this year. ran my first league last year in a 66 game, condensed season and put the "games per week" max at 36, but it seemed necessary since there were 5-6 games per team, per week. now that we're back to an 82 game season, i'm wondering what you all recommend for the "games per week" setting. don't wanna do 40. was thinking 34. 'preciated.
Personally I don't like to cap it. Maximizing games is a legitimate strategy. Number of games in the playoffs is a factor when I draft. Last year I can see why you'd want to cap it. This year there should be a bit more consistency in the schedule so everyone will get a roughly equal number of games more often than not.
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On October 02 2012 18:36 shalesniffer wrote:
Is there a spot available? Id like to join. Been playing fantasy for a couple of years.
There is still room but I wont be able to slot you in until this weekend. In the meantime, send me a PM regarding which of the proposed draft dates don't work for you. Check the post above yours.
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I'd like to join if there's still a spot available
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We filled up a few days ago zulu_nation
If a spot becomes available i'll let you know.
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If a spot opens can I join too?
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On October 04 2012 11:24 DoomsVille wrote:We filled up a few days ago zulu_nation If a spot becomes available i'll let you know.
10 players in league 2, can fit 2 more?
and theres a team missing from league 1
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For the people playing in the Team Liquid League on ESPN (TLL) most want Roto so I'm cool with it. Any other choices please speak up. Also we need to decide on a Draft/Auction time that most people can attend. Since it's an international forum choices will be varied but I personally don't mind any time except Sunday Oct 28th 9PM ET because I have another league to auction in.
Discuss!
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9 PM ET or later sounds fine for me in general. Just pick a day.
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On October 04 2012 12:11 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 11:24 DoomsVille wrote:We filled up a few days ago zulu_nation If a spot becomes available i'll let you know. 10 players in league 2, can fit 2 more? and theres a team missing from league 1
All 3 of them have been filled, just waiting on people to join.
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I sent emails out to the people that PM'd me.
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how do people feel about having a h2h and a roto league?
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United States4471 Posts
Would be interested except that it looks like people here prefer ESPN and I'm only interested in playing on Yahoo
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Depends on the size of the league, the settings and the scoring format.
With regards to Blake, he is definitely not nearly as good in fantasy bball with standard categories as he is in real life. His FT% is his biggest killer, with his relatively low amount of blocks for a big coming in second. Any settings or format that downplay his poor FT boosts his value significantly however as he is an elite scorer with a great FG%, boards well, and gets a relatively high number of assists for a big.
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Sign me up if you still have space.
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cyric if you wanna start another league on yahoo i would be down
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I'd be down for a spot. Long time Fantasy BBall player.
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sign me up if there's space.
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On October 08 2012 04:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
cyric if you wanna start another league on yahoo i would be down
Tempting, but I'm already going to be in charge of three leagues this season and have a total of 6 on my plate. I'll take the interest as a compliment though
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Updated with draft date/time for our yahoo H2H leagues. If you guys want me to add info for your ESPN leagues in the OP, just PM me what you want included.
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EDIT:
All invites have been sent. Just waiting on 3 people to join in. For now I'm going to set the date for Saturday, October 27th @ 9:00 PM ET which is 10:00 KST. We are not doing a draft, we're doing an auction.
Now is the time to discuss changes to the Auction time if you please.
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did my first mock draft. so many roster moves, huge changes to teams and potentital output from players, and then those players who are injured (rose, rubio, etc). feels like you really have no idea what you are doing.
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How can i join a fantasy league?
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In general or one of the leagues hosted here? I think both Fantasy Leagues are full.
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On October 10 2012 03:38 a176 wrote:
did my first mock draft. so many roster moves, huge changes to teams and potentital output from players, and then those players who are injured (rose, rubio, etc). feels like you really have no idea what you are doing.
No kidding. I'm definitely going to be winging my draft more this year then in recent years.
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Yup. Sorry Zidane. Don't heatbutt me.
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^hahahahaha good one
hope we get a date for the draft
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What do you guys think about finalizing the team list and getting a draft order published in advance?
Typically the draft order is generated 30 minutes before the draft. But I can generate the order anytime from now until then. I don't mind doing it a bit early (gives you a better idea of who you can draft and what sort of team you want to build) or leaving it as is.
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Do it like a day before the draft day, in my opinion.
So I did a mock draft, I was 8th picked ( Which really sucks -.-)
Your Team
1. Deron Williams (Bkn - PG)
2. Serge Ibaka (OKC - PF,C)
3. Monta Ellis (Mil - PG,SG)
4. Kevin Garnett (Bos - PF,C)
5. Luol Deng (Chi - SF)
6. Arron Afflalo (Orl - SG)
7. Elton Brand (Dal - PF,C)
8. Al Harrington (Orl - PF,C)
9. Brandon Roy (Min - SG,SF)
10. Mario Chalmers (Mia - PG)
11. Jeremy Lamb (Hou - SG,SF)
12. Festus Ezeli (GS - C)
13. Tayshaun Prince (Det - SF,PF)
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On October 11 2012 08:14 DoomsVille wrote:
What do you guys think about finalizing the team list and getting a draft order published in advance?
Typically the draft order is generated 30 minutes before the draft. But I can generate the order anytime from now until then. I don't mind doing it a bit early (gives you a better idea of who you can draft and what sort of team you want to build) or leaving it as is.
i usually wait for the surprise but this year ... i dunno man :p
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im gonna be unavailable from oct 22-26 so im hoping we could set a date before or after those dates.
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On October 11 2012 23:50 icystorage wrote:
im gonna be unavailable from oct 22-26 so im hoping we could set a date before or after those dates.
Do you mean for the ESPN one?
On October 09 2012 15:32 Ace wrote:
EDIT:
All invites have been sent. Just waiting on 3 people to join in. For now I'm going to set the date for Saturday, October 27th @ 9:00 PM ET which is 10:00 KST. We are not doing a draft, we're doing an auction.
Now is the time to discuss changes to the Auction time if you please.
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Alright. I'm going to release the draft order for League 2 tonight before I head to bed. So everyone will get at least a full day to prepare for the draft based on their position.
I'll do the same on Thursday night next week for League 1.
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Missed it
Jesus fucking Christ, I got Channing Frye.
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Didn't check for a few days, missed the draft, haha. Still ended up with a solid team, could've been a lot worse though.
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lolol I ranked rookies too high on my pre-draft ranking, it seems...
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Yea you're not the only one. A few people ranked rookies a bit too high IMO. The problem with rookies is, for the most part, they don't gain fantasy relevance until the second half of the season. I think we'll see at least 4-5 rookies posting top 150 value by the end of the season. How about at the end of November? 2 (Davis + Lillard). Might see someone else sneak in there (MKG?) but it will take time for everyone else to catch on as they fight for minutes/adjust to the NBA. Same situation happened last year and will happen pretty much every year ever.
Zorkmid and daozzt... you guys both got pretty good teams considering you didn't show up lol.
Should be a good season.
For those of you in Teamliquid 1, we're drafting this Saturday (1200 EST). Try not to miss the draft like these guys did. As with the other league, I'm going to randomly generate the draft order Thursday before I go to bed. So everyone will have all of Friday to prepare a strategy if they want.
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Is it bad if im excited for the smack talk :D
Also I am now "Dumpster Jedis"
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Damn, I wish I fucking knew of this thread earlier... I just started fantasy basketball league, with 9 other friends, would've been down to manage a 2nd team as well... Next year, I'll definitely sign up.
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Draft order for Saturdays draft released.
I'm drafting 10th in this league also lol
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My best player broke his hand. FML.
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yay, last!
2 picks in row :D
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You're lucky it's head to head zorkmid. You just need to make the playoffs and loves injury doesn't mean anything.
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Urgh 5th place >.>, I wish you all luck Saturday!
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5th sucks ass with Love being injured. I'd go ahead and say thats the worst draft position.
Sorry bud.
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Take Wade
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On October 19 2012 12:07 Ace wrote:Take Wade
Yerp Wade is who I was looking at :D
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If we get enough for a third league count me in .
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We might need a replacement since MassHysteria is awol and hasn't joined the league yet. If you want in just PM me and if MH hasn't joined by this upcoming Tuesday night I'll let you in.
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I am here yo, I messaged u on the 16th that I though I had joined already. It is weird though bc I can't change my team name for some reason though but barely about to check that out right now. Be back.
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You can't change your team name because you aren't in the league
Are you sure you are looking at the right league/checked the correct email?
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Hehe I guess I never actually clicked accept the invitation on the bottom just looked at my name up top lol. Kk I am in
Have to get used to ESPN fantasy.
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Updated the OP with the ESPN info.
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Anyone know how I can see the draft order for league 1 (yahoo)?
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ya took me a while to figure it out too rod-. Go to draft results though.
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Ive never done an auction draft. Should be fun!
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Draft done, pretty happy with the turnout, curious to see how it plays out.
Here's The Bench Mob for 2012/2013!
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On October 21 2012 02:23 VENDIZ wrote:Draft done, pretty happy with the turnout, curious to see how it plays out. Here's The Bench Mob for 2012/2013!
Ah HA! Your Bench Mob, you stole my B Roy .
Nice team though :D
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Taj for Klay VENDIZ, gogogo
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so whats your team name ace?
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the guy at the top of the league
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Is therr a way to see how the draft went without being part of the fantasy league
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For ESPN leagues there is a draft recap
ETA: I'm not in the yahoo leagues btw, only the ESPN one.
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my team,
dirk
bynum
amare
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On October 22 2012 07:00 a176 wrote:
my team,
dirk
bynum
amare
/thread
Those first to autopicks did you good! ;p
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i missed the draft by what, a minute, get fucked over for the entire first half of the season, LOL
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It was like 10 minutes .
But yea, you got screwed over hardcore. The fight for a playoff spot begins I guess.
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On October 22 2012 11:02 a176 wrote:
i missed the draft by what, a minute, get fucked over for the entire first half of the season, LOL
I know that feel
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On October 23 2012 01:49 Zorkmid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 11:02 a176 wrote:
i missed the draft by what, a minute, get fucked over for the entire first half of the season, LOL I know that feel
I don't! My autodraft last year was baller, bar Gerald Wallace ;D
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Did my first mock auction draft really early in the morning...wish I could keep this team lol..
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Auction drafts seem really strange. Would it ever be worth it to put a lower ranked player on the block? Like a player a didn't really want?
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It happens all of the time. You would put a specialist on the block that you'd want for cheap not someone you don't want. Never do that because if you get the player you're wasting a roster spot. It's not a big deal when the season starts (just drop em) but in the actual auction it just hurts because losing a roster slot ends your auction quicker and cuts your options.
Example: last year I bid on Kris Humphries for $1. I knew he was worth at least $5 since he was a double double machine that got blocks and barely shot Free Throws in a roto format. He was on a team that would lose a lot of games AND he would get a ton of playing time (Fantasy gold). ESPN had him valued at $1 but he's worth way more hence you bid. Some people will let it slide. Other times they'll overbid which is good as long as they bid more than you think he's worth. Remember the biggest thing about auctions isn't only the players you get but how much you pay and when you pay for them.
The absolute WORST thing that can happen in auction is overpaying for marginal players before you lock up your top players. It will hurt dearly when you get outbid by people managing their money wisely.
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I know it's early... but let's get some trades going. I'm going to update the block tonight. Feel free to send offers my way.
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I frequently nominate mid-tier players that I know the other people like early on to eat up their budget. I don't usually aim for guys that I could possibly get for $1 to avoid the possibility of actually winning them. This season I threw up guys like Gallinari and Wall, players that other people are a lot higher on than I am and might overbid on early but who would never go for $1. It often works well because people don't realize the respective value of players is yet, and there's always at least a couple who will get trigger happy on "value" guys in the middle rounds.
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In addition to what Cyric said, in Roto leagues some guys' values are skewed based on scarcity. Always look at the projected Roto stats and see where someone drafting players needs help. If they are low on assists and it's your turn to nominate a player and you're already good in assists you can throw John Wall up for say $20. At that price he's a steal for anybody but you don't need him.
Everyone sees he's going cheap and ends up price jacking him and the guy that really needs him might end up overpaying. Stuff like this happens all the time with mid tier guys when everyone has taken all the top guys early. You'll also see some people avoid all the top tier guys and snatch up all the mid tier ones but imo in Roto that usually ends up not winning since the top level guys are worth a TON because you don't need many games to get the same stats from 2 or even 3 mid tier players. Durant giving you 30 points on 48%FG with 10 FTA per game at 85% is monstrous because it often takes 2 or even 3 players to approach balance that kind of stat line. You usually want at least one of the top guys no matter what.
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Send me offers. I put guys on the block but I'm always willing to hear offers for anyone on the roster. I don't think I have any guys that are untouchable (except for Kyrie).
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Make me an offer too guys. Anyone is up for a trade except Batum. Specially need some bigs and can give up some assists/PG.
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Looks like Anti-gravity left the league so if you want in PM me
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PM me your email, I'll send the invite when AntiGravity PMs me back or by tomorrow night at the latest.
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Bynum (knee) told reporters that, "It's a possibility that I'll be ready for opening night," the Philadephia Daily News reports. This seems a bit optimistic as the team has said they will hold him out until he is pain free.
Nowitzki (knee) has already started riding an exercise bike, NBA.com reports.
yay!
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Lol hopefully after week 1
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If a spot opens on the auction one, pm me pls!
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To everyone in Ace's ESPN league
I'm really sorry to ask this on such short notice but is there any way we can push the draft back a few hours to maybe 10 or 11pm est? Any time on Sunday would also work.
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I was doing another auction draft early this morning...
god I hate the bastards on ESPN. People are freaking crazy.
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I got a 2nd owner for the first few rounds of the draft until I can take over, sorry for the scare
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Is the draft in 40 minutes? I'm a little confused because I'm in Spain and there's daylight saving time tonight.
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1.5 hours from now. You can enter the draft room starting 30 minutes from now.
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Ok now that our fantasy draft is complete let me address the situation: I think Team L is someone's dummy account.
Now it's really hard to prove but the odd bidding and price markups for some guys, along with sniping cheap players was weird. It could be very possible that all 3 guys who are avid posters of the 3 teams doing this could have just had ESPN settings for their auto-bids and all got price jacked to hell.
However, the account owner for Team L is someone with 1 post on these forums (Pillows).
Secondly during the auction I asked a couple of times if Team L was there. By the time he showed up he said he wasn't reading the chat so he never responded although he was talking earlier.
I mean this is circumstantial but these are a couple of separate things that went on. Needless to say the auction got extremely screwy in the mid rounds - several mid and low tier players were getting sniped because of the prior price manipulation. I dont the owners of the other 3 accounts are cheaters and if they are its very hard to link it to any of them since they all had some crazy price bids. But I think someone has Team L as their dummy account.
So this is what I propose: A re-auction asap which I feel is fair since this way we can do it again without the wild price manipulation.
The other option is deleting Team L and letting everyone bid on their players. This option sucks imo because its very obvious whats going to happen when finite $$ chases his best players after we all have our rosters set.
I'd like to hear from everyone in the league on this.
Also double checking Team L's roster he drafted 3 injured players. 4 if you think Dwight Howard might not even start the season. Yea I'm convinced thats a dummy roster.
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I'm with the re-auction since the guy who did my draft sucks apparently
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I'm fine with whatever you guys decide. If Ace thinks that something is screwy, then I do too.
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If we redraft you guys have to tell me when you're available asap.
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im available any time tomorrow, or else i'd prefer a friday night. Just checked my team and LOL, this is what happens when you find someone from league of legends to do your basketball draft.
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I'm going to guess you're Steve Novak Legend
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yes, i messaged everyone on my friend list and got the only person who said he knows and is good at fantasy to do the draft for me. Apparently being good means spending $167 on two players.
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If we dont re-auction we'll have to use FAAB money on the players on his roster or do a forum based snake draft. If you got any of his players you'd just be super top heavy which MIGHT work. Only problem is you aren't going to have an easy time in trades
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omg, i really suck at timezones. if we redraft, can we use TL's time? (KST) since i really get confused easily. i thought the draft is 2 hours from now ._. wtf
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Since some of us like our teams I think the fairest way to do this might be to delete the team, let the players into the FA pool and let everyone bid on them.
Now for the guys who got screwed the most (the ones that weren't there which is icystorage, Holcan and Zulu) I can manually give them a little bit more money in their budget. This way we dont have to redraft, I dont have to attempt to fix teams by giving anyone good players, and everyone has a shot at the players that get released. The guys who weren't there get an extra $20 on their budget with which to bid on the soon to be released players.
Anyone agree or disagree with this?
ETA: Also remember the budget is for the entire YEAR. It does not get refilled at all.
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im fine with it since i got a decent team
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I'm fine with anything, sorry for not being there, had something insanely stupid come up. Heres hoping Harden becomes a 30/7/7 player! (Yea right)
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i'm available tomorrow night around 8-9pm PST cuz I'll be drafting for my work $ league, it'll be hard to draft in 2 at once, but it's the only way i can do it. that or during the day while i'm at work. sorry guys, this was hard enough to get together, i'm down for playing this out or doing another draft, but ideally i'd like to hear what team L has to say, and/or the other two autodraft teams.
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No the bots were guys who post on the forums.
Team L is someone's smurf though. So one of the 9 people in the league has a dummy account.
I'd be down for a Monday night redraft but I think letting everyone just bid on the remaining guys is fairer. If we do a redraft and some people that were here for the first draft can't make it that sucks. Also a few people like their team.
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Guys I need some serious feedback before the season starts. Right now I'm going with the idea of dropping the players and giving the 3 people who missed the draft an extra $20 in their FAAB and letting the season play out.
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monday night is fine for me, i'd prefer a redraft
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I didn't really think there was anything too fishy about the bidding (the auto-bid comps had the most money and they jumped in when player prices got to their range without going over.. and most ppl were low on $ by then). The guy with the one-post thing though is a little weird though. You would think he would come and type something here on the thread after he started chatting at the end of the draft with us. His player nominations were also a little sketchy (I think he nominated love, nowitzki, and rubio in round 2-5) which could or could not be strategy..but then he also outbid everyone on them which is a bit weird. He seems to be a Lakers fan too lol (bid and won howard, nash, and kobe).
I don't think any of the teams were bid on or put together unfairly but if we have reason to believe that a person is an owner of 2 teams then I am okay with whatever we all want to do to remedy, though I would prefer not to redraft. It would be nice to hear from the guy...
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MassHysteria is sympathetic. It was him! Get him boys!
With all the drama around here you'd think this was r/starcraft.
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Well if everyone wants to redraft I would be up for it too. Anytime from 6pm PST and on is good with me for Monday.
And agreed with krndandajfjadfjoajionman, no 1-post users. Didn't even know we had one in it tbh lol
FYI: Team L made me a trade proposal today. Is the owner on here?
edit:Lol doomsville
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I'm down for a re-draft but I'm all the way in Europe so if most people (assuming living in the US) want it at night, I won't be able to make it.
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im available as long as i get the timezones right ._.
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Is 7 PM ET Monday good for everyone?
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Ok I reset the draft for 7PM tomorrow night. Team L and it's owner have been deleted. With 9 people I bumped the auction budget up to $250.
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Not for me unfort. I can do from 9pm eastern and on like i said on last page .
EDIT: And I think we should try to get a 10th owner or just leave it how it is really and split up the guys team.
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set for 9 since the 2 ppl that responded to 7 can do 9 I think (based on previous posts).
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I kinda liked my team despite overpaying a bit for Bynum and Iggy.
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Whoever got Damian Lillard got a steal
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i dunno if i can do the 9 oclock draft, 7 draft was okay for me since i'd be leaving work and could just stay late, but 6pm is way too long for me to stay at work, and my 1.5 hour commute home would make me get home after 6pm. I thought we were going to just leave it or agree on a better draft time. ugh. my other draft that was supposed to be today, got fucking pushed to tuesday as well. all of these drafts and redrafts are fucking with me and my g/f -_-'
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Sorry just trying to accommodate as many people as possible. Set your pre-draft values yourself so you don't get screwed by the cpu.
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Can I join if you guys want 1 more? I could draft anytime after 3 EST today.
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Ya I would be up for that if that's ok with the rest. I would rather have a 10person/200 draft
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i'll just try to rush home so i can draft at 6pm my time. i hope i can make it, i enjoyed the auction draft saturday night, and hope we end up with more non-bots, if we end up with 4+ bots because of this reschedule, it's gonna be worse than just leaving team L deleted.
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Oh sweet.. my first time doing an auction + roto combo. This should be fun.
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Do the mock drafts in the ESPN Lobby just to get used to it. Crazy things happen (like me trying to get people to overpay for Deron Williams and getting stuck with him for $60 when I already had my superstars set )
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Moral of that story: I can metagame you into thinking you're driving up the price for a guy I want only to let you have him for way too much money.
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On October 30 2012 04:26 DoomsVille wrote:
Moral of that story: I can metagame you into thinking you're driving up the price for a guy I want only to let you have him for way too much money.
yes indeed. It happened several times in the auction with some wild bids.
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I guess there's no way to see the draft results from your first draft? Would be nice to get a general sense of what you guys are paying for certain players.
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Death God Corps
PG Russell Westbrook 59
SG Dwyane Wade 56
SF Andrei Kirilenko 5
PF Anthony Davis 10
C DeAndre Jordan 1
G Deron Williams 60
F Kris Humphries 3
UTIL Thaddeus Young 1
UTIL Zach Randolph 1
UTIL Derrick Favors 1
BE Mario Chalmers 1
BE Omer Asik 1
BE J.J. Redick 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
Team Gravity
PG Lou Williams 7
SG Paul George 22
SF Carmelo Anthony 41
PF Blake Griffin 30
C Chris Bosh 20
G Kyrie Irving 55
F David Lee 19
UTIL Greivis Vasquez 1
UTIL J.R. Smith 1
UTIL Kemba Walker 1
BE Andrew Bogut 1
BE Jarrett Jack 1
BE Dion Waiters 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
Plain Noobs
PG Jrue Holiday 10
SG Arron Afflalo 7
SF Paul Pierce 21
PF Kevin Garnett 8
C Roy Hibbert 13
G Klay Thompson 7
F Amare Stoudemire 6
UTIL JaVale McGee 4
UTIL Ersan Ilyasova 9
UTIL Brook Lopez 8
BE John Wall 7
BE Tim Duncan 7
BE Elton Brand 4
Total: 111
Remaining: 89
Steve Novak Legend
PG Kyle Lowry 14
SG Ray Allen 4
SF LeBron James 87
PF Gustavo Ayon 1
C Nene 2
G Damian Lillard 5
F Kevin Durant 80
UTIL Marcus Thornton 2
UTIL Isaiah Thomas 1
UTIL Samuel Dalembert 1
BE Jason Kidd 1
BE Jose Calderon 1
BE David West 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
Team Jeong
PG Mike Conley 24
SG Manu Ginobili 4
SF Michael Beasley 2
PF DeMarcus Cousins 42
C Pau Gasol 35
G Goran Dragic 26
F Andrea Bargnani 4
UTIL Marc Gasol 40
UTIL Marcin Gortat 14
UTIL Nikola Pekovic 3
BE Jeremy Lin 3
BE Mo Williams 2
BE Jeff Teague 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
MassHysteria's Bawlers
PG Tyreke Evans 19
SG Joe Johnson 18
SF Nicolas Batum 10
PF LaMarcus Aldridge 43
C Al Horford 26
G Raymond Felton 3
F Paul Millsap 25
UTIL Joakim Noah 15
UTIL Rudy Gay 30
UTIL Luol Deng 8
BE Ben Gordon 1
BE Darren Collison 1
BE Tony Allen 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
Team Zorkmid
PG Rajon Rondo 37
SG Anthony Morrow 3
SF Andre Iguodala 21
PF Ryan Anderson 16
C Andrew Bynum 58
G Brandon Jennings 24
F Danny Granger 14
UTIL Tyson Chandler 11
UTIL Kyle Korver 1
UTIL Jamal Crawford 2
BE Danilo Gallinari 6
BE Carlos Boozer 3
BE Jonas Valanciunas 2
Total: 198
Remaining: 2
Xaul Xan
PG Monta Ellis 23
SG Ty Lawson 37
SF Gordon Hayward 1
PF Josh Smith 54
C Spencer Hawes 1
G James Harden 36
F Luis Scola 1
UTIL Stephen Curry 13
UTIL Jason Terry 6
UTIL Eric Gordon 12
BE Tony Parker 11
BE Brandon Knight 4
BE Chauncey Billups 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
Team L
PG Steve Nash 23
SG Kobe Bryant 52
SF Kawhi Leonard 2
PF Dirk Nowitzki 27
C Dwight Howard 43
G Ricky Rubio 3
F Kevin Love 40
UTIL Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 2
UTIL Courtney Lee 1
UTIL Kenneth Faried 4
BE Gerald Wallace 1
BE Luke Ridnour 1
BE Rodney Stuckey 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
Team KazeBitches
PG Chris Paul 70
SG Wesley Matthews 9
SF Evan Turner 4
PF Serge Ibaka 33
C Al Jefferson 49
G George Hill 4
F Steve Novak 1
UTIL Greg Monroe 22
UTIL O.J. Mayo 3
UTIL Kevin Martin 1
BE Jameer Nelson 1
BE Anderson Varejao 2
BE DeMar DeRozan 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
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PG Russell Westbrook 59
SG Dwyane Wade 56
G Deron Williams 60
Poor guy lol
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that was me
Loaded in everything but 3s, rebounds, and blocks but too many turnovers. Which is why I had a trade proposal sent to Holcan for some cheaper players.
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lol, that was a fluke cuz ace was hoping one of us would overbid on him, and no one did =P
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Let's see who we can make him buy this time!
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Ya I joined the draft in the beginning of the 2nd round and had a whoa-wonder what-happened-there face lol. That was before I saw the guy who took both Lebron and Durant
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Holy crap I just noticed that. He actually has a pretty solid team overall.
Seems like 80+ on Lebron/Durant is overkill though.
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crap this hurricane temporarily just knocked out my internet. Hope I can make it to the auction
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I'm at mlg dallas this weekend, so if you want to propose a trade (xal xans) then please wait until Tuesday, or late Monday, before proposing.
looking for a pg, looking to get rid of a wing or two.
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I was wondering who your team was Holcan ^^. Sounds good and sweet btw.
Does ESPN put a phone app out for fantasy bball? Haven't found one myself but this is my first year using them so it might be coming soon I suppose.
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For those interested in how our second auction went:
+ Show Spoiler +Death God Corps
PG Stephen Curry 25
SG Dwyane Wade 66
SF Andrei Kirilenko 2
PF Steve Novak 1
C Al Horford 31
G Kobe Bryant 44
F Glen Davis 1
UTIL Marcin Gortat 20
UTIL Darren Collison 4
UTIL Jose Calderon 2
BE Ben Gordon 2
BE Bismack Biyombo 1
BE Dion Waiters 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
Team Gravity
PG Steve Nash 25
SG Marcus Thornton 4
SF Alonzo Gee 1
PF Al Jefferson 46
C Andrew Bynum 43
G Mike Conley 16
F Dirk Nowitzki 27
UTIL Paul Millsap 32
UTIL Ray Allen 2
UTIL Chauncey Billups 1
BE Rodney Stuckey 1
BE Jason Kidd 1
BE Luke Ridnour 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
Plain Noobs
PG Deron Williams 63
SG Paul George 16
SF Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 2
PF Zach Randolph 8
C Pau Gasol 46
G Tyreke Evans 14
F Gerald Wallace 7
UTIL Roy Hibbert 20
UTIL Damian Lillard 6
UTIL J.R. Smith 1
BE Amare Stoudemire 5
BE Nene 3
BE DeAndre Jordan 2
Total: 193
Remaining: 7
Steve Novak Legend
PG Rajon Rondo 37
SG Kawhi Leonard 4
SF Andre Iguodala 19
PF Ryan Anderson 14
C Dwight Howard 43
G Jeremy Lin 6
F Danny Granger 12
UTIL JaVale McGee 6
UTIL Joakim Noah 15
UTIL Klay Thompson 8
BE Tony Parker 14
BE Kenneth Faried 17
BE Brandon Roy 1
Total: 196
Remaining: 4
Team Jeong
PG Russell Westbrook 59
SG O.J. Mayo 5
SF Rudy Gay 27
PF Carlos Boozer 5
C Marc Gasol 39
G Kyrie Irving 48
F Kris Humphries 3
UTIL John Wall 7
UTIL Derrick Favors 2
UTIL Kevin Martin 2
BE Andrew Bogut 1
BE Tony Allen 1
BE Luis Scola 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
MassHysteria's Bawlers
PG Ty Lawson 37
SG Joe Johnson 15
SF Paul Pierce 21
PF Josh Smith 57
C LaMarcus Aldridge 45
G Brandon Jennings 18
F Thaddeus Young 1
UTIL Brandon Knight 1
UTIL Samuel Dalembert 1
UTIL David West 1
BE Byron Mullens 1
BE Mario Chalmers 1
BE Gustavo Ayon 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
Team Zorkmid
PG Goran Dragic 27
SG Gordon Hayward 4
SF Carmelo Anthony 35
PF Blake Griffin 26
C Greg Monroe 38
G Kemba Walker 1
F Anthony Davis 18
UTIL Monta Ellis 19
UTIL George Hill 4
UTIL J.J. Hickson 1
BE Brook Lopez 10
BE Luol Deng 7
BE Tyson Chandler 10
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
Xaul Xan
PG Jeff Teague 8
SG James Harden 40
SF LeBron James 80
PF Chris Bosh 21
C David Lee 14
G Eric Gordon 11
F Evan Turner 1
UTIL Spencer Hawes 2
UTIL Tim Duncan 6
UTIL Andrea Bargnani 4
BE Danilo Gallinari 5
BE Arron Afflalo 5
BE Jason Terry 3
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
Team KazeBitches
PG Chris Paul 69
SG Lou Williams 6
SF Michael Beasley 3
PF DeMarcus Cousins 36
C Serge Ibaka 36
G Manu Ginobili 3
F Kevin Love 39
UTIL Jonas Valanciunas 2
UTIL Raymond Felton 2
UTIL Jameer Nelson 1
BE Chris Kaman 1
BE Marcus Camby 1
BE Drew Gooden 1
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
Team Dave
PG Kyle Lowry 11
SG Nicolas Batum 15
SF Ersan Ilyasova 15
PF Kevin Garnett 11
C Nikola Pekovic 5
G Jrue Holiday 9
F Kevin Durant 81
UTIL Wesley Matthews 8
UTIL Mo Williams 5
UTIL Anderson Varejao 5
BE Elton Brand 4
BE Isaiah Thomas 8
BE Omer Asik 23
Total: 200
Remaining: 0
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yes I did pay 17 for Faried, was cuz you guys let me have Mcgee for 6 and Klay Thompson for 8.
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I didn't realize how bad of a FT shooter Griffin was last year, I hope he improves!
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On October 31 2012 01:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:
yes I did pay 17 for Faried, was cuz you guys let me have Mcgee for 6 and Klay Thompson for 8.
you bastard
TRADE KOBE!
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Do any of you guys wanna do like.. another H2H league?
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already in 4 leagues, can't do another, gl though guys!
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SEASON GAMES PLAYED LIMITS
i read about this, but i really don't understand. anybody care to explain?
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Each slot has a maximum of 82 games to be used. Once you pass it you stop gaining stats. There are two ways to look at it:
1.) Hit the limits tab to see how much you have left.
2.) Go to the top and look at the sub-menu under "My Team". Go to More, and select Max & Pace. This is very useful for knowing how fast you'll run out of games.
This is partially why superstars and top heavy rosters can win: 1 game from say Durant is worth 3 or 4 games from a mid-tier player.
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so you can only use Durant 82 times?
can you give an example?
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Well yes because there are only 82 games
Ok so you see the SF spot. That's for Small Forwards. You can use any combination of people eligible for the SF spot up to 82 times. So let's say you have Durant, Gerald Wallace, and Joe Johnson. You can split it say 40, 30, 12 and use up all 82 games for the SF spot.
However this would be silly if we could only get 40 games from Durant. Hence there are more spots to slot him in: the F spot (any SF or PF) and the Utility spots which let you put any player in regardless of position.
Players with dual eligibility like Andre Igoudala (SG/SF) and Jamal Crawford (PG/SG) are solid because you can slot them in up to 4 places.
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oh okay now i get it.
does the stats aside from the starting 5 are also counted? or will there be penalties (like 50% of stats since he's not on the starting 5)?
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Everything counts the same.
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wait we are penalized for leaving ppl on roster if they dont play?
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Ahh kk thx for a moment I misunderstood it but got it.
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also to make it more fun keep your tab on your team page during games. Tons of fun watching your ranks go up/down and some random team shoot up the ranks in real time.
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Errr, anyone who happens to work for NOH here? ;D Can't decide whether or not to put Gordon in tonight, at best he'll come off the bench with very limited minutes, and I'm not benching Capt. Kirk (he'll play 30+ mins).. Question is; is Royce White with his rookie minutes better than a Gordon that MIGHT get a couple of minutes of the bench?
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So I guess tonight is a really big night huh
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For clarification, scoring goes until the last game of the season, correct?
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assuming you don't run out of games to play, yes
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wow, harden owners must be feeling happy
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I have him in 3 leagues so yea I feel pretty good
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I got him this league, excited but not sold yet.
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On November 02 2012 03:25 Holcan wrote:
I got him this league, excited but not sold yet.
I'm still trying to trade Kobe, lets talk
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could you guys please post which specific league, there are 3 running
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Or just use the league message boards.
I hate the yahoo GUI
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Just had a guy from one of my leagues email me to ask that I protest an approved trade of his. His reason? He claims he didn't know that Bynum was injured and feels like the other guy pulled a shady trade on him -_-
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Why did I bench Davis for Hill......
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yooo wtf MKG 14% FG really
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I need rebounds, assists and steals. Kobe's on the block. Come on people
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On November 03 2012 13:10 Kenpachi wrote:
yooo wtf MKG 14% FG really
I'm mad
also wtf Harden imba
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damn, Kobe ultimate turnover guard
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anybody interested in MKG before I drop him?
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On November 04 2012 09:56 icystorage wrote:
anybody interested in MKG before I drop him?
Maybe, but I'll just wait and get him for free.....
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i actually changed my mind lol, gonna give him a few more games and see.
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goddamn dunleavy blowing the fuck up
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Mo williams:
9/13 FG, 9/9 FT, 29 pts, 2 threes, 9 asts, 2 stls, 2 threes and only 2 TOs
On my bench. FUUUUUUUUUU
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Lol Doomsvile. I was targeting him for weeks for this draft b/c I thought he would perform well in UTA but wasn't able to on the redraft :/
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No competition for minutes. Team needs him to perform. He's motivated. It's going to be a good season for mo.
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You know all those things apply to b. Knight in DET. trade?
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Even sub par players blow up once in a while
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JR SMITH - 8/15 9 rebs 4 3pm 2 ast 2 stls 3 tos 20 pts
on my bench WHILE I WAS ASLEEP! damnit, the schedule fucked me up
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On November 05 2012 05:31 Ace wrote:
Even sub par players blow up once in a while
So does this mean you want to trade for B.Knight. Kk.
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On November 05 2012 07:49 MassHysteria wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 05:31 Ace wrote:
Even sub par players blow up once in a while So does this mean you want to trade for B.Knight. Kk.
Kobe for Knight and Aldridge sure
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Wrong PG's to be looking for 3's from, and how deep is your league that you actually have Jordan Hill on your roster? Not much of a shotblocker even when he does play.
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climbed out of the cellar off the backs of Gawdbe Bryant, Kirilenko, Horford and Gortat. Wade hasn't even been playing for real yet either
Needless to say all Kobe trades are off. Shoulda took him when you had the chance :D
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On November 05 2012 15:02 Ace wrote:climbed out of the cellar off the backs of Gawdbe Bryant, Kirilenko, Horford and Gortat. Wade hasn't even been playing for real yet either Needless to say all Kobe trades are off. Shoulda took him when you had the chance :D
I suspected that the new roster may translate to efficiency, but didn't expect this type of FG%. I think the TO's will dip as they get more comfortable with the offense and when Nash is back, which leaves him with a very nice looking line indeed.
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On November 05 2012 10:45 krndandaman wrote:
kyle lowry is dominating as of late... dang lol
scola has been surprisingly great (stats wise) as well!
edit: in yahoo h2h I need two 3 pointers and 1 block from 4th quarter 7minutes of Jeff Teague/Westbrook and full game Jordan Hill to win. cmon teague and westbrook... just need 2 3's and 1 block from hill!!
kekekekekekekekekekekekekeke too close
my mass guard strat may be too gimmicky; we'll see
hopefully anthony davis gets back on the court soon (and drose... he should be back in a few weeks, right??), and kidd-gilchrist stops sucking
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On November 05 2012 15:11 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 14:54 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Wrong PG's to be looking for 3's from, and how deep is your league that you actually have Jordan Hill on your roster? Not much of a shotblocker even when he does play. they were the only PG's left playing tonight. I was losing 6-3 tied in blocks and behind 1 3PT while he had no more players playing. Of course they got no 3pt's and I got 1 block from Hill today leading to me losing 5-4 ;/ it's a 10 team league and I got him as my last draft pick because I expected Howard to be out for a while and haven't really gotten around to get ridding of him for who knows why;;
No excuse for having Jordan Hill on your roster in a 10 team league unless you're playing with some very strange categories
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On November 05 2012 15:08 XaI)CyRiC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 15:02 Ace wrote:climbed out of the cellar off the backs of Gawdbe Bryant, Kirilenko, Horford and Gortat. Wade hasn't even been playing for real yet either Needless to say all Kobe trades are off. Shoulda took him when you had the chance :D I suspected that the new roster may translate to efficiency, but didn't expect this type of FG%. I think the TO's will dip as they get more comfortable with the offense and when Nash is back, which leaves him with a very nice looking line indeed.
Yea I was shocked by the FG%. Really was trying to trade Kobe because I needed assists and rebounds but no one bit. Kobe started finally passing the ball though so I'll keep him around.
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lol. Beat doomsvile at the last day. Time to gloat!
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On November 05 2012 15:02 Ace wrote:climbed out of the cellar off the backs of Gawdbe Bryant, Kirilenko, Horford and Gortat. Wade hasn't even been playing for real yet either Needless to say all Kobe trades are off. Shoulda took him when you had the chance :D
All your points came from me ugh lol. Jsmoove hopefully gets back asap.
Barely pulled off victory vs a1 in yahoo =P...injuries..
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in b4 this ends up being kobe's highest assist total of whole season, i'm always wary of fast starters especially now that it's a full season. Ofc this doesn't apply to Kobe but for some other guys like you know who. If I owned that certain someone on the rockets I'd be cashing in so hard so fast right now, never seen a more sell high. Also get ready guys, i'm spending all $100 of my free agent money on d.rose.
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On November 05 2012 15:31 FindMeInKenya wrote:
lol. Beat doomsvile at the last day. Time to gloat!
you son of a bitch. Damn stuckey and his migraines... He was 1/22 on the week lol. Definitely tanked my fg% hard. Close match we had. I'll get my revenge in a few months : P
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On November 05 2012 16:39 zulu_nation8 wrote:
in b4 this ends up being kobe's highest assist total of whole season, i'm always wary of fast starters especially now that it's a full season. Ofc this doesn't apply to Kobe but for some other guys like you know who. If I owned that certain someone on the rockets I'd be cashing in so hard so fast right now, never seen a more sell high. Also get ready guys, i'm spending all $100 of my free agent money on d.rose.
its this dumb as hell princeton passing offense, ball gets passed like what, 5 times before a shot is taken. since kobe is always gonna get a hand on the ball, if they keep this offense up, his assists will be up too
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On November 06 2012 07:43 a176 wrote:yep
oh cmon, you knew if you looked anywhere prior to a draft, that bynum would miss early time, dirk was gonna miss time, amare was out, and steve nash is old as dust. that's your own draft fault tbh even though i feel bad for you.
also about kobe, i don't understand where htis is coming from. so far this year he's averaged only 3.5 asts per game. he had 1 game with 8 because they were stomping the shit out of detroit so they were gonna do go nuts with passing. you realize he's a career 4.7 assist guy anyways, so he's always gonna get you about 4-5 assist a game. even with shaq he at best got to 5.9 avg. i'm gonna go ahead and say he comes out above 5.0 in asts per game, but to claim he'll have career setting ast this year is folly. He shouldn't be running the offense that much once Nash is healthy and their offense comes together anyways.
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ESPN says crash aint gonna play tonight, is that reliable? coz i just benched him and he's just day-to-day
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On November 06 2012 08:01 Kazeyonoma wrote:oh cmon, you knew if you looked anywhere prior to a draft, that bynum would miss early time, dirk was gonna miss time, amare was out, and steve nash is old as dust. that's your own draft fault tbh even though i feel bad for you. also about kobe, i don't understand where htis is coming from. so far this year he's averaged only 3.5 asts per game. he had 1 game with 8 because they were stomping the shit out of detroit so they were gonna do go nuts with passing. you realize he's a career 4.7 assist guy anyways, so he's always gonna get you about 4-5 assist a game. even with shaq he at best got to 5.9 avg. i'm gonna go ahead and say he comes out above 5.0 in asts per game, but to claim he'll have career setting ast this year is folly. He shouldn't be running the offense that much once Nash is healthy and their offense comes together anyways.
fyi bynum+dirk autopicked and amare+nash hurt after the draft
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well autopicking is where you got shafted... and you probably should've just removed them from your draft list (moved way down) if you couldn't draft on time.
amare:
http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nba/856/amare-stoudemire
his knee was a known issue was early as oct 21st, and then oct 26th, roto already advised to just let him be drafted by someone else since he needed a second opinion on an ALREADY surgically repaired knee. then the 29th laid the 6 week mark. i guess if you drafted earlier than the 29th you were gambling with less than 6 weeks, but its still a gamble since his knee was a problem during preseason.
i didn't mention nash, i just said he's old as dust so you had to know drafting him was an injury risk. not trying to hate on you just saying you had no one to blame but yourself for those picks.
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God I am the absolute worst at choosing starters. Peks on the bench and having an awesome game so far lol
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pekovic finally showed up. its about time
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damnit tyreke, earn your fucking keep
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oh hey guess who has Dion Waiters on their fantasy team
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what? There are a ton of people on Waivers you'd pick up over Hill. I mean...what category(ies) do you need him for?
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Al Harrington? hahahaha what.the.fuck.
Good lord that must be one of the worst drafts ever. Well...Okafor over Hill.
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lol and drop al harrington too man. Check if valuncianas is still around or even jj hickson too.
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Kevin Seraphin? Larry Sanders? Taj Gibson? Brandan Wright? Carl Landry? Spencer Hawes? Any of those would be better than Hill. Even Brendan Haywood has more value than Hill at this point.
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Damn I was thinking about adding Seraphin in that league lol
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sanders is a sick block per minute player, and should get 20+ minutes a night on that team.
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Ah crap. Lowry went down. Didn't look good. He wasn't putting any weight on his ankle. This is going to be really shitty for 3 of my 5 teams lol
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I have to bench one of the below for tonight
Kawhi Leonard, JLin, Iguodala, Klay Thompson, Ryan Anderspon, Larry Sanders
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Sit Sanders if you don't need blocks (no chance to win or guaranteed win). Otherwise I guess Kawhi has to sit. Anderson is starting tonight, so you can't sit him.
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Yea I just saw. This is the roto ESPN league and I'm 3rd in blocks, tied for 1st in rebs, 1st in assists, 5th in 3s, 2nd in steals, and 3rd in points. The choice realistically comes down to between Kawhi and Klay, probably benching Kawhi since GS are playing Cleveland. Sanders is the least proven in terms of consistency but the cats he provides are valuable.
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Sit Klay and Ryan Anderson. So I can stay ahead of you in 3s.
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brb sitting dwight instead so i can make a run at 3s
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It's roto - no rush since it's still early season unless you are really low in a category that is hard to catch up in.
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Early in the season. Minutes can be screwed up, their playing teams that don't turn the ball over enough or have great ball handlers, could be a multitude of reasons. The main things to worry about are guys that are shooting WAY below or above their FG and FT% (on a good number of attempts) early on. Those are the two categories where unless you have a couple of true anchors going down means death.
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krndadjfaklamkmfman u should pick up brandon knight ..after regretfully giving him one last chance yesterday his FG % is just too terrible.
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the smartest thing you can do in fantasy is not overcommit to early trends. Truth is no one knows who's faking it or for real after only one week into the season. Consistency is always heavily underrated.
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Westbrook's FG% will probably be bad all year like his 2010-2011 season. No James Harden means you have to hope Durant controls the offense more for Westbrook to maintain a good one.
Tony Allen barely shoots enough and when he does it's usually near ~50%. That won't hurt.
Rudy Gay's FG% is ALWAYS up and down.
Boozer...ok that would be bad. He takes a lot of shots but usually hits an insane clip.
Humphries hasn't played enough games or minutes in fact (none of the Nets have) to be worried.
On November 08 2012 09:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
the smartest thing you can do in fantasy is not overcommit to early trends. Truth is no one knows who's faking it or for real after only one week into the season. Consistency is always heavily underrated.
And this is good advice. Really wait at least ~2 weeks before doing something drastic unless you are confident something is WAY off about a player. Of your players the only one I'd be thinking about is Boozer shooting badly since he virtually never does and I'd wait a bit and see.
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Fuck. I meant to remove Hayward for Hill. I know I did it, I guess I didn't submit.
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
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His fucking line....
38 7/12 .583 2/2 1.000 4 3 5 4 1 2 20
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On November 08 2012 13:06 krndandaman wrote:
wow mo williams has been playing like a top 10 fantasy player so far
anyone think he'll keep up similar production for the season? he's looking real good
No.
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ya probably not top10 but one of the better bargains for where/amount he was drafted on average. He will put good stats imo and I tried to get him in as many draft as I could.
Only reason I probably didn't get him in our auction league was bc the dumb autobid made me go all-in on jennings on my firefox crash. Similar games and stats for those two but for the price I paid I would rather have Mo, so ya I don't think its a mirage is what I am saying plus he will prob end with a better FG% than jennings if I had to guess. edit: paid 18 for jennings, mo went for ~4 i think
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Should I be looking to try to trade Mo off at all? I'm thinking sell high, but not sure.
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Hey I love trades/moves so if you can get a nice haul for your team I say go for it.
edit: plus I would prob bite on Mo at the right price
edit2: wish I had Jordan's blocks from Monday added to todays
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No way to know but the player rater would be a good indication. It depends on how far above "good" he is in several areas vs the league as a whole.
Before tonight's games he was ranked 6th.
Of course no one thinks he will go an entire season with those numbers when he's never shown the ability to do in his entire career. Up to you if you want to trade him
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To be honest, you're probably not willing to pay what I want for Mo (in ESPN or TL2).
I'm projecting him at top-50/60 value this season. So unless you're willing to send someone that high to me I'm not letting go.
And in ESPN, I can almost guarantee I'm not letting go outside of a 2-for-2 trade that upgrades me at point a bit. I can't risk losing a PG with Lowry injured and Keith Smart deciding Aaron Brooks is a legitimate point guard.
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its my first time playing fantasy and i hate it when i dont read updates about players, especially injuries. this is the second time i left crash in the starting lineup because i thought he could play then it gets changed the last minute =.=
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whoever bid $11 on kevin seraphin and outbid me by $1, well played.
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Happened to me with Davis too.
edit: all caps profanities
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On November 10 2012 14:01 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2012 09:13 icystorage wrote:
its my first time playing fantasy and i hate it when i dont read updates about players, especially injuries. this is the second time i left crash in the starting lineup because i thought he could play then it gets changed the last minute =.= download rotowire app on your phone or just check the player's news by clicking on their name in fantasy
i actually check the news AFTER a game.
it reads like 'g.wallace will be playing in the game against minnesota' or something
then when the game starts and i find out too late he won't be playing because of something but will be playing next game.
it happened to me twice now =.=
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On November 10 2012 11:44 zulu_nation8 wrote:
whoever bid $11 on kevin seraphin and outbid me by $1, well played.
Hehe, fyi: I couldn't fall asleep the night before and, while web surfing, decided to raise the bid up to $11 at around 3AM here (bids get taken at 8AM) =P
edit; what is your team name zulu?
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there should be some kind of injury exception in fantasy
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On November 11 2012 05:14 a176 wrote:
there should be some kind of injury exception in fantasy
For those game time decision things for SURE.
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On November 11 2012 04:16 MassHysteria wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2012 11:44 zulu_nation8 wrote:
whoever bid $11 on kevin seraphin and outbid me by $1, well played. Hehe, fyi: I couldn't fall asleep the night before and, while web surfing, decided to raise the bid up to $11 at around 3AM here (bids get taken at 8AM) =P edit; what is your team name zulu?
steve novak legend
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Got a few opinions on a trade. Who gets the better trade or is it fair?
Team A trades his: Deron Williams and Brandon Knight
Team B trades his: DeMar DeRozan and Rudy Gay
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It's fair but team B gets the better end by far. DeRozan/Gay both kinda worthless, Knight has decent upside for this season.
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Team B is definitely winning that trade.
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On November 11 2012 05:40 Zorkmid wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 05:14 a176 wrote:
there should be some kind of injury exception in fantasy For those game time decision things for SURE.
no i mean for when your entire team is injured
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On November 11 2012 13:39 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 05:40 Zorkmid wrote:On November 11 2012 05:14 a176 wrote:
there should be some kind of injury exception in fantasy For those game time decision things for SURE. no i mean for when your entire team is injured
Nah, durability is a factor. Don't pick people with glass joints.
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lol yeah, I'm mad because I put anthony davis on bench (because yahoo still has [had] him labeled as "injured" even though he played...)
whatever migs is destroying me anyway
I'm mad I'm losing in steals though
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haha won my matchup by 1 point (yahoo league 1). Thank you Marc Gasol for only scoring 2pts tonight :D
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On November 12 2012 08:25 krndandaman wrote:
Anyone know how preset lineups work? I set all my lineups in advance and submitted them but today I find that in my leagues I had lbj benched, marc gasol benched, humphries benched after 21 rebs.... what's up with this?? I didn't pickup waivers or trade and fouble checked that they were set last night
edit: Just lost my matchup in yahoo league because DJ/teague was benched -___-;; would've tied 4-4 if they weren't benched. I guess I am doing something wrong with presetting lineups...
If you dropped/added someone after you already set your lineups it could shift players around.
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Does anyone have Michael Beasley on their team? What's the consensus on him, he can definitely improve (.318 FG%) but I don't know holding on to him and waiting is best.
And Josh Smith, wtf man step up your game!
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If you have a severe need of points without caring about anything else - keep him unless there is something on the waiver wire worth picking up. Beasley is still erratic in real life and his stats jump game to game.
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On November 12 2012 16:01 rod- wrote:
haha won my matchup by 1 point (yahoo league 1). Thank you Marc Gasol for only scoring 2pts tonight :D
Holy crap that is a close match. 1 TO, 1 point and 2 blocks are all that separate you two.
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i lost this week by 1 steal, 5 rebounds and 7 points...all because varejao was sick and missed that one game...fml
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On November 12 2012 17:02 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 16:01 rod- wrote:
haha won my matchup by 1 point (yahoo league 1). Thank you Marc Gasol for only scoring 2pts tonight :D Holy crap that is a close match. 1 TO, 1 point and 2 blocks are all that separate you two.
And it was against vendiz, now I'm one beer richer!
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Ibaka got me out of FG% and blocks hole vs BraveKens for me. I survived Jordan and Gortat phew.
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For Yahoo TL2 H2H LEAGUE
Hey guys,
Most of my players are available for trade, so shoot me an offer if you are interested
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I'm feeling good about my chances of winning this league (still early though). JJ Hickson and Aminu pick ups SAVED MY ASS in rebounding. Now just need Kobe, Wade and Steph Curry to carry my ass in scoring.
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picked up hickson a week ago then dropped him after a couple of bad games. grabbed him again today cause my rebounding sucks ass and he goes and gets 18 rebounds smh.
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I think it is Kirilenko and Gortat coming through too. Ridiculous lines by those two. But I think so too, your team is looking really good.
edit: xaul xan (holcan ?) has a good team though
edit2:Doomsville too
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My best team is one that I actually had a lot of concerns about before the season started:
G.Dragic
P.George
O.J.Mayo
K.Leonard
A.Horford
L.Aldridge
T.Duncan
J.J.Hickson
D.Jordan
G.Wallace
L.Ridnour
L.Sanders
L.Kleiza (just added)
Duncan and Jordan have been very pleasant surprises, Granger's injury has opened the door for George, Dragic, Horford and Aldridge are doing about what I expected, and Mayo is taking advantage of Dirk's injury. Looking forward to having GWall come back.
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Conversely, another team that I felt good about is struggling early on:
D.Williams
A.Gee
K.Lowry
M.Beasley
A.Jefferson
Z.Randolph
R.Hibbert
J.Noah
C.Landry
L.Sanders
J.Crawford
G.Green
V.Carter
Lowry's been hurt, Beasley's been inconsistent, and I'm weak in the wing positions. I've had no luck finding a 3rd PG, but at least my frontcourt is quite solid.
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On November 13 2012 14:33 MassHysteria wrote:
I think it is Kirilenko and Gortat coming through too. Ridiculous lines by those two. But I think so too, your team is looking really good.
edit: xaul xan (holcan ?) has a good team though
In the auction someone was screaming "DONT LET ACE GET KIRILENKO!". Glad that one worked out. I was almost boned after I got disconnected and missed a lot of players I needed to round my roster out.
On November 13 2012 14:55 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
My best team is one that I actually had a lot of concerns about before the season started:
G.Dragic
P.George
O.J.Mayo
K.Leonard
A.Horford
L.Aldridge
T.Duncan
J.J.Hickson
D.Jordan
G.Wallace
L.Ridnour
L.Sanders
L.Kleiza (just added)
Duncan and Jordan have been very pleasant surprises, Granger's injury has opened the door for George, Dragic, Horford and Aldridge are doing about what I expected, and Mayo is taking advantage of Dirk's injury. Looking forward to having GWall come back.
How are you surviving in assists and steals with this lineup?
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On November 13 2012 15:08 Ace wrote:How are you surviving in assists and steals with this lineup?
I should point out that both teams are H2H standard 9-cat leagues. I only have one roto team, and it's currently crippled by having both Love and EG on it.
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um damn. You're probably not going to come back in that one :/
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On November 13 2012 15:18 Ace wrote:
um damn. You're probably not going to come back in that one :/
Yeah, my hopes are not high for the roto league My active players are:
Jrue Holiday
Mo Williams
A.J. Price
Metta World Peace
Paul Millsap
Luis Scola
Serge Ibaka
DeAndre Jordan
Alonzo Gee
Lou Williams (possibly replaced with Linas Kleiza)
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On November 13 2012 14:33 MassHysteria wrote:
I think it is Kirilenko and Gortat coming through too. Ridiculous lines by those two. But I think so too, your team is looking really good.
edit: xaul xan (holcan ?) has a good team though
edit2:Doomsville too
My team would be much better if I learned how to properly choose my lineup rofl. Here's a sample of some of my benched champions:
Parsons (Nov 12): 8/17 FG, 4/4 FT, 25 pts, 5 3s, 4 reb, 3 ast, 2 stls, 1 TO
Pekovic (Nov 5): 9/14, 3/3, 21 pts, 7 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 2 blk, 3 TO
Mo (Nov 3): 9/13, 9/9, 29 pts, 2 3s, 9 ast, 2 stls, 2 TO
And there have been a bunch more strong lines . Ah well, learn from my mistakes. Ersan permanently on the bench until he can do something lol
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Hehe ya on some those I was wondering too. I just realized benching (b/c of max, pace, etc) is an option in roto ..might have/will play things a little tad different.
BTW Yahoo annoying me. I am almost positive I put Dorrel Wright to start for yesterdays game in League1. Will prob feel the burn today against Tacos.
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On November 13 2012 14:59 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Conversely, another team that I felt good about is struggling early on:
D.Williams
A.Gee
K.Lowry
M.Beasley
A.Jefferson
Z.Randolph
R.Hibbert
J.Noah
C.Landry
L.Sanders
J.Crawford
G.Green
V.Carter
Lowry's been hurt, Beasley's been inconsistent, and I'm weak in the wing positions. I've had no luck finding a 3rd PG, but at least my frontcourt is quite solid.
What was your position in the draft pick? You have a similar team as I do
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Was gonna say, because that had me stumped if it was a snake draft
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Never played auction draft, sounds hard :S
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my first time playing fantasy and im on an auction draft
its more on knowing what to pick before hand how much you should go for to get it
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I just prefer auction to snake because every person has a chance to draft every player. I never liked the fact that a random draft order could limit you so much as to who you could draft, i.e. no way you're getting Lebron or Durant without a top 2 pick. The process is also so much more dynamic as you have to constantly adjust your strategy and valuations throughout the draft according to the bidding.
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Yep. Especially in Auction Roto
I'll never do Snake drafting ever again. It's so stale and obvious. With Auction some AMAZING things can happen at any point. Last year I was in a league with $250 budgets and one guy bid $222 between Chris Paul and Wade.
Somehow he finished in the top 5 of 10 iirc. He had some amazing waiver wire picks to save himself.
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I'm getting so sick of Klay Thompson that I'm thinking about dropping him even though I know it's unrealistic. I could've bid on Kemba for like $1 and gotten better production.
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insta trade proposal after that post LOL you guys are sharks
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On November 16 2012 16:42 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I'm getting so sick of Klay Thompson that I'm thinking about dropping him even though I know it's unrealistic. I could've bid on Kemba for like $1 and gotten better production.
You'd have had to realize that Kemba is awesome before the draft though. I'll bet someone scooped in in most leagues.
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holy shit ty lawson thanks for that 0/7 shooting
and steve novak has not been hitting the 3's promised
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ya that lawson FG was killer last night (pattern for my roto team now ><) and I didn't know his FT shooting was this bad either
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It's not. A lot of guys are having outlier seasons even though we're ~2weeks in. Lawson, Curry, Lebron, Kobe(!), even Blake Griffin are having weird production at the moment. Brandon Jennings isn't this good but it's a contract year so who knows. JR Smith and Jamal Crawford are playing way, way above their career numbers.
ETA: Look at the 2012 season numbers vs production so far. You'd think most of them were injured by the stark differences.
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fucking lawson killing me. =( and 3 years ago, if you had said, someone traded oj mayo for brook lopez, there would've been riots.
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On November 17 2012 04:40 Ace wrote:
It's not. A lot of guys are having outlier seasons even though we're ~2weeks in. Lawson, Curry, Lebron, Kobe(!), even Blake Griffin are having weird production at the moment. Brandon Jennings isn't this good but it's a contract year so who knows. JR Smith and Jamal Crawford are playing way, way above their career numbers.
ETA: Look at the 2012 season numbers vs production so far. You'd think most of them were injured by the stark differences.
In many of those cases there is a legitimate reason.
JR Smith basically hasn't given a shit about basketball prior to this season. Hell he said he spent most of last year partying and this year focusing. Granted he won't stay this hot forever. He's shooting 70+% from the 3pt line and that won't stick. But this will probably be the best year he's ever had.
Crawford has stated that this is the first time he has ever actually spent time practicing his jumpshot. The signs of a monster season were there. Certainly not this good and he probably will normalize a bit. That FG% won't stay above 50% forever. But improvements on career numbers across the board is quite possible.
Not sure why you don't think Brandon Jennings is this good. Sure the steals are an outlier and will definitely come down to ~2spg, but the rest of his stats are just about what you'd expect. He's trading some shots for asts so his scoring is down a bit. Aside from that the numbers are right were he was last year. He's also only 23 and you have to figure he still has room for improvement.
Blake's been dealing with some minor nagging injuries. Supposedly he's going to play through them but I feel like some time off would help him out.
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for streaky shooters like jr and crawford they will go through multiple shooting slumps and their fg% will fall back to near 40 for the season.
You can buy it if a big man start gets double doubles consistently or blocking lots of shots, but for guards to start off hot, it's as sure of a sign as any that a big slump is on the horizon. Added to the fact that both players are in or past their primes. Even if you're legit, teams will start playing you differently asap.
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On November 17 2012 08:41 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 04:40 Ace wrote:
It's not. A lot of guys are having outlier seasons even though we're ~2weeks in. Lawson, Curry, Lebron, Kobe(!), even Blake Griffin are having weird production at the moment. Brandon Jennings isn't this good but it's a contract year so who knows. JR Smith and Jamal Crawford are playing way, way above their career numbers.
ETA: Look at the 2012 season numbers vs production so far. You'd think most of them were injured by the stark differences. In many of those cases there is a legitimate reason. JR Smith basically hasn't given a shit about basketball prior to this season. Hell he said he spent most of last year partying and this year focusing. Granted he won't stay this hot forever. He's shooting 70+% from the 3pt line and that won't stick. But this will probably be the best year he's ever had. Crawford has stated that this is the first time he has ever actually spent time practicing his jumpshot. The signs of a monster season were there. Certainly not this good and he probably will normalize a bit. That FG% won't stay above 50% forever. But improvements on career numbers across the board is quite possible. Not sure why you don't think Brandon Jennings is this good. Sure the steals are an outlier and will definitely come down to ~2spg, but the rest of his stats are just about what you'd expect. He's trading some shots for asts so his scoring is down a bit. Aside from that the numbers are right were he was last year. He's also only 23 and you have to figure he still has room for improvement. Blake's been dealing with some minor nagging injuries. Supposedly he's going to play through them but I feel like some time off would help him out.
Only one I don't agree with is Jennings. He's playing less minutes so far than last year but his assists are up +2.4! and his steals +1.5. I mean...that's insane for any player and he's doing so much of it in less time. Everything else is pretty much what you'd expect from him. I figure he'll get better but not in this way.
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rajon rondo: lean green assist machine
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randolph currently leads the league in rebounding :3
i heard his teammates praising him last two years ago how they really rely on his boards
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Randolph has always been a beast on the boards. Never been more than a points/rebs guy in fantasy.
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What do you guys think about Jason Richardson, Kyle Korver and Alexey Shved? I'm thinking about picking me up a new SG.
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so... anyone notice scoring is hard to come by this season or just me?
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I upheld the trade but didn't see a "Trade upheld by LM" message on the front page. Maybe it'll appear later but the trade should be done.
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You better uphold the trade. Who do you think you be? David Stern?
edit2: It's sad when I go to my team to check if they crossed over to the 43% FG mark.
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On November 19 2012 04:37 Ace wrote:
I upheld the trade but didn't see a "Trade upheld by LM" message on the front page. Maybe it'll appear later but the trade should be done.
I got an email saying it was upheld.
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On November 19 2012 04:59 MassHysteria wrote:You better uphold the trade. Who do you think you be? David Stern? edit2: It's sad when I go to my team to check if they crossed over to the 43% FG mark.
Jesus the FG% across the board is terrible. 4 teams sub 45%... then again it is a guard heavy format/league. The standings are god damn tight right now though. 5 people within 2 points of each other.
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On November 19 2012 05:34 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 04:59 MassHysteria wrote:You better uphold the trade. Who do you think you be? David Stern? edit2: It's sad when I go to my team to check if they crossed over to the 43% FG mark. Jesus the FG% across the board is terrible. 4 teams sub 45%... then again it is a guard heavy format/league. The standings are god damn tight right now though. 5 people within 2 points of each other.
I still think you are in the lead (maybe 2nd b/c xaul with Harden/LBJ is beastly) though. You have the least GP so far by quite some games ^^. Oh and a nice lineup today too.
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If Lowry didn't get injured I'd be running away with this league. As it is, I think it's very close at the top.
Also I really need to just give up on Ersan. But I can't for some reason. I watch him play and he looks terrible. But I keep thinking he might not be so bad one day soon
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Yeah I can't blame you on that one. If I had him anywhere I would have a tough time deciding too. I almost put in an offer for him on our ESPN one but decided it was too big of a risk with the rest of my lineup :/
EDIT: good job not playing Calderon today Ace. /trollface
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Rofl calderon on the bench. That's the type of stupid decision I would normally make
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thanks ace for letting me the assist title for one more day
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I thought I actually had him in. A couple of my lineups had guys on the bench that shouldn't have been from other leagues. Maybe like it was said earlier ESPN has been screwing around
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How have I not got a single block between 9 players tonight?!
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Greg Monroe was worth every penny.
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same here, hibbert is really playing sub par =.=
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lol don't worry, my entire team shot < 30% last night... 16 for 59.
also 13 turnovers.
wat
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Does anyone even check the trading block? I updated it but it doesn't notify you anywhere. And it's so stupidly hard to see where it is. Really poor visibility for it on ESPN.
I guess I'll post it here:
Available: 3s
Looking for: Blks
Players Available: Matthews, Parsons, Jameer
No one is untouchable except Durant and Batum.
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Josh Smith was a damn flop this season. Worst 2nd pick ever
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I check the trading block all the time
Zulu lets talk
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On November 21 2012 07:21 Archers_bane wrote:
Josh Smith was a damn flop this season. Worst 2nd pick ever
right, why'd you take josh smith second pick?
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I never check the trading block..but I will in a sec.
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On November 21 2012 08:06 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 07:21 Archers_bane wrote:
Josh Smith was a damn flop this season. Worst 2nd pick ever right, why'd you take josh smith second pick?
I laughed so hard at this,
(Just the way he asked the question)
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On November 21 2012 08:06 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 07:21 Archers_bane wrote:
Josh Smith was a damn flop this season. Worst 2nd pick ever right, why'd you take josh smith second pick?
Can't really blame him. Josh Smith was going in round 1 in most places. And I don't think it's fair to expect him to be shooting the lowest FT, FG and 3PTFG% he has ever shot in his career.
That said, we're only 10 games in. Pretty sure he'll turn it around. Maybe he won't post second round value. But he should be posting top 50 at least. Aside from his %s, the rest of his numbers are decent (rebs down a bit, but everything else is roughly where it should be).
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Metta on the wire. Should I pick him up for you and we can deal for Kyrie?
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i wanna make a deal tonight, been doing a lot of thinking...
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lol Zulu. Very funny trade proposal
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What are you looking to get for faried? What kind of stats? What kind of player? Who else is available?
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On November 21 2012 08:42 Ace wrote:lol Zulu. Very funny trade proposal
Kobe for Faried is a legit trade.
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Nah he tried to do a 1 for 1 - his Rondo for my Steph Curry. There's a reason I targeted Steph in almost every league I'm in.
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That's not that LOLworthy.
If someone looks at Stephs ankles funny he's out for the season. And up til now they've been posting very similar value.
But yea, I'd never even remotely consider that. Not the way steph has been looking so far (capable of running without dying).
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then i believe your team is dead to me, steph is all i want.
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Steph and Rondo are no where close in value
The only thing holding Steph back is his FG% which will rise to the ~47% it should be. 2 years ago he was first round value. If he stays healthy I'm betting on that again
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Yea, Steph is an insane fantasy player, the amount of shots he takes means your FG% and FT% will be solid for the entire year, and he is great for extra dimes and steals.
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On November 21 2012 09:04 Ace wrote:Steph and Rondo are no where close in value The only thing holding Steph back is his FG% which will rise to the ~47% it should be. 2 years ago he was first round value. If he stays healthy I'm betting on that again
Yea a slow start is expected given the fact that he couldn't walk this off season. The if he stays healthy is the biggest if I've ever heard though. Per-game value? Sure, 1st round is expected. Cumulative value? I'd be ecstatic if he's posting 2nd or 3rd round value. That said, Rondo isn't exactly a health stud. And I agree I'd never take that trade.
But Rondo is going to have an amazing season. Him and Doc are pretty obviously stat-padding. I mean he comes into games during garbage time to up his assist totals. It's disgusting but it's going to bump his value considerably.
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Yea I'm not saying Rondo isn't worth thinking about - his Assist and Steals dominance with the PG rebounding are fucking insane. Just that Steph gets a decent amount of Assists and godly steals also - then adds in all the scoring categories Rondo can't touch on insane percentages. I can't give that up especially when I'm sitting 2nd in Assists.
On November 21 2012 09:12 krndandaman wrote:
it's hard for me to trade players now as I don't have much players that "specialize" in anything. My team is full of small contributors in multiple-cats
Start doing 2 for 1s. Even a 3 for 1 (superstar) might work if you can find the right guys on the WW to replace them with.
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i was contemplating the past few days (weeks) on proposing trades for hibbert with other teams until i realized that he is my only source in blocks =.=
edit: oh wait, i got gasol too lol but he averages only 1.4 bpg compared to hibbert's 2.5
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how? what the?? That's the second time in two weeks someone has picked up a player from FA right before me, didn't understand what was wrong, then the next thing I see is DoomsVille have picked up Nene.
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Any insight on Steve Nash? I haven't been keeping up with him, is he still worth keeping?
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On November 21 2012 21:32 Archers_bane wrote:
Any insight on Steve Nash? I haven't been keeping up with him, is he still worth keeping?
holy grail of dantoni+nash is upon us
hopefully.
but with kobe on the floor, im not confident in nash's numbers.
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I feel like pau is going to be the odd man out under dantoni. He's already give world peace the green light. He's said he wants Dwight getting more touches. And we know how much he loves Nash and Kobe.
Doesn't leave much room for pau though. Thankfully pau is solid even without 17 ppg, so he's still very valuable.
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There are a lot of guys who put up big numbers last season but are injured season, but in their absence there hasn't been enough new blood stepping up imo, fantasy wise.
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What? Kevin Love starting tonight?
Jeez that's absurd.
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YESSSSSS Yahoo league not over for me!
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I'm really looking to off Kenneth Faried. I think his numbers are legit and he's only gonna get better but I have so many sources of rebs that it'd only make sense to help my other categories. I'm looking for 3s/pts/steals in that order.
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Take a look at my team and make some proposals.
You have to realize, his 50% FT shooting with 4 attempts a game is hard to absorb for most teams. If I have him on my team, I'll definitely drop 2-3 points in FT%. So I can't take him unless I gain more than that elsewhere. Most people are probably looking at this the same way. Otherwise, yea, his numbers are legit. But that FT% brings him down to barely top-100 value. Just hit research and you'll see he's only at 2.54 on the season. Nothing spectacular there.
Your team is best able to take that hit (you're clearly punting FT%). The rest of us have to downgrade Faried because of it. You're going to get more value for Noah (who also helps your stat overkill much more than Faried does). I suggest shopping him, McGee or Sanders around instead (or a few of them).
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On November 23 2012 03:26 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I'm really looking to off Kenneth Faried. I think his numbers are legit and he's only gonna get better but I have so many sources of rebs that it'd only make sense to help my other categories. I'm looking for 3s/pts/steals in that order.
Make me an offer A LEGIT offer!
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Me too, me too. Just not for JSmoove
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id be fine with shopping mcgee, same with sanders, but I'm sure no one wants sanders. I didn't really consider the FT% thing but you're right. Noah is definitely moveable. I'll take a look at your teams tonight and come up with something.
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JSmoove for Jameer. You in?
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Durant went 44/46 from the FT line this week. I think he single handedly boosted me up by 2% in FT%.
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sigh my team sucks
little scoring, lots of turnovers, and < 40% FG%
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Why are you holding on to Rose? There's a good chance he doesn't play at all this season. And even if he does, I doubt anyone is going to stash him until March or April.
EDIT: To add, the fantasy playoffs are late March-early April. Even if Rose is back, he's probably on a minutes limitation and just getting into game shape for the first few weeks. He almost definitely won't have a fantasy impact this year.
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On November 26 2012 03:43 DoomsVille wrote:
Why are you holding on to Rose? There's a good chance he doesn't play at all this season. And even if he does, I doubt anyone is going to stash him until March or April.
EDIT: To add, the fantasy playoffs are late March-early April. Even if Rose is back, he's probably on a minutes limitation and just getting into game shape for the first few weeks. He almost definitely won't have a fantasy impact this year.
oh, fuck
I was under the impression he'd be back by like January
maybe I should've dropped Rose and not Rubio LOOOOOL
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Not maybe... definitely lol
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Jeez me and Migs had a tight match.
I won:
FT% by 0.5%
Reb by 5
AST by 1
STL tied.
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I don't understand how 7'0'' Robin Lopez gets as many rebounds as his point guard in about the same number of minutes
anyway, hopefully Redick/Novak can keep up their production from tonight in the future... heh
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Yea thanks for ruining my day DoomsVille.
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^
That match could've went either way, haha. Glad it went 5-3, since it conveniently brings me to 1st
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You're welcome. You can repay me by letting me win this week. Not looking good for me without your help
Kyrie, Mo, LMA injured
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Dam LMA came back to tear it up and I didn't play him.
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overvalued or undervalued:
Joakim Noah
Wesley Matthews
Paul George
Ty Lawson
Kenneth Faried
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That entirely depends on where you are valuing them. If you tell me Matthews is top-100 then I'm going to tell you you're undervaluing him. If tell me he's top-20 you're overvaluing.
Let's put it this way instead:
Matthews is top 35 value. Elite 3s, stls and he doesn't hurt you anywhere (slight hit in fg%).
Nosh is top 35 value. Elite Defensive stats but a severe detriment in TOs given his position. His 4+ apg probably won't stick either.
Paul George I'd say is top 35 as well. His numbers have been down so far but theyre climbing now. If he gets his act together than he could be top 25. But I think he safely finishes top 35.
Lawson is due for a drop this year. I think everyone neglected the negative impact iggy would have on him. His %s are out of whack though. They're due to go up eventually. Top 40 or so is where I'd place him.
Faried is top 80 or so. His ft% basically limits him significantly. Personally I hate dealing with huge categorical negatives in roto so I wouldn't go near him unless I'm getting good value.
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What I mean is, do you see those guys rising or falling in value from where they are right now as the season progresses, in other words are they buy low or sell high types. Interesting that you think that way about Lawson, I think Iggy's most obvious impact is Lawson has been taking less 3s.
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matthews is a lock for what he does. he's consistent, has posted up similar numbers across all 3 years, and almost never (actually hasn't missed a game in over 250 games) misses games. he will always post up 3s, stls, and random reb/ast with the odd block, and shoot around .400 (lately he's shooting higher % which is nice, but don't expect it to stay there unless lillard really is helping him get better looks). And without roy anymore, he's a lock in that position with no one to challenge him AT ALL.
noah's numbers will go down, his ast rate is high but mostly because they have better ball movement right now across teh board with rose out. Everything else looks normal.
George should get better, but it won't get any worse, especially with granger out forever.
I don't think lawson is due for a drop, his %'s are already moving back up from the week before, and he'll get adjusted to having iggy, but his ast #'s definitely won't put him in the first round anymore, late 2nd round at best, but he's probably a good buy low candidate right now as he'll stable off.
Faried is probably just around what he'll get you all year, he'll have some explosive games but also have games where he doesn't show, like DoomsVille, i put him in the top 80 or so, a big who gets you a double double everyday but hurts you in basically all categories outside of big stats, and he doesn't get as many blocks as the more elite bigs so sell high after a huge game if you own him for someone more reliable.
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On November 28 2012 03:55 zulu_nation8 wrote:
What I mean is, do you see those guys rising or falling in value from where they are right now as the season progresses, in other words are they buy low or sell high types. Interesting that you think that way about Lawson, I think Iggy's most obvious impact is Lawson has been taking less 3s.
In that case:
Matthews: FT% go up, FG% may go down, overall stays about the same value.
Noah: AST down a bit, hopefully TO down a bit too. Overall drops slightly.
Paul George: STLs are down a bit. Should go up and push his value. I'd say he is sort of a buy low but not really.
Lawson: Definite buy low. %s of 41 FG, 24 3PT, 59 FT vs. career numbers of 49/38/77. There is just no chance in hell his percentages stay down for long. His minutes are up and no chance they drop. And his counting stats are actually better than last year. I didn't take a good look at his stats this season until right now. If he was shooting at career %s instead of that shit he'd be posting top 20 value.
Faried: will stay right around where he is. Monster in rebs, solid contributor in FG%. But a huge negative elsewhere.
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On November 28 2012 04:23 Kazeyonoma wrote:
matthews is a lock for what he does. he's consistent, has posted up similar numbers across all 3 years, and almost never (actually hasn't missed a game in over 250 games) misses games. he will always post up 3s, stls, and random reb/ast with the odd block, and shoot around .400 (lately he's shooting higher % which is nice, but don't expect it to stay there unless lillard really is helping him get better looks). And without roy anymore, he's a lock in that position with no one to challenge him AT ALL.
I don't think lawson is due for a drop, his %'s are already moving back up from the week before, and he'll get adjusted to having iggy, but his ast #'s definitely won't put him in the first round anymore, late 2nd round at best, but he's probably a good buy low candidate right now as he'll stable off.
Yea I didn't realize Lawson's counting stats were so high. 2 SPG, 7.5 APG, are both substantially higher than last year. Does it stick? Maybe. He does have a few more MPG. If it does stick and his %s get back up he's in line for a monster season.
RE: Matthews... dude has played in 244 straight games... never missed a single game in his career. I do buy an increase in FG% there because Lillard is capable of getting him open looks. Certainly better than Felton or Miller in the past few years.
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The Blazers' bench is pretty terrible right now, so you can feel pretty safe that their value will remain high throughout the season barring injury. Batum has dropped off from his ridiculous production early on a little bit as teams are focusing their defenses on him more, but his game is fantasy-friendly and he'll continue to get every opportunity to try to justify that huge contract he got.
Noah's assist numbers will likely drop a bit at some point, but I think he may end up with a career high in that category due to his good passing ability and Rose being out.
George is a safe bet to maintain his value throughout the season. Granger being out is giving him more touches on offense, but it's also made him try to do more than he's really ready to at this point. As a result, Granger's return down the line might actually help him out by taking the offensive load off of him and allowing him to be the complementary player that he is right now.
The opportunity to buy low on Lawson has probably already passed as he's put together a string of good performances over the past few games. I agree that Iggy will continue to put a bit of a damper on his production (as well as Gallo being healthy), but Lawson is talented, fits the team's style of play perfectly, and allows his team to play their best when he's doing more. Interestingly, people keep talking about his assist numbers when he's actually averaging more this season than last. His shot attempts are about the same too, so he could actually improve upon last season if his %s return to their previous marks.
Faried is a bit overrated by many as he's really just an efficient role player who rebounds really well. People got fired up about him last season because he came out of nowhere to become a reliable source of FG%, 11+ ppg, good rebounding, and just around 1 block and one steal per game, while never turning the ball over. His FT% was around the high 60's or low 70's at his peak as well, which made him one of the less damaging big guys out there. That's good for about top 80 or so, which I expect him to maintain. His value might dip if and when Wilson Chandler returns as he could push Gallo into playing PF more, but that's not certain by any means.
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Actively shopping Asik, Mo, Jameer and Metta.
If you want any combination of those 4, I'm looking to improve at point.
EDIT: This is in the ROTO league.
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I wanna work something out with matthews
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uhhh I'm really sorry but I misclicked in this trade that just got accepted, I meant for it to be a 2 for 2, not 3 for 2. I will do the trade for any combination of two players from the three that I offered.
PN traded Gerald Wallace, Bkn SF to NOV
PN traded Roy Hibbert, Ind C to NOV
NOV traded Kenneth Faried, Den PF to PN
NOV traded Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Cha SF to PN
NOV traded JaVale McGee, Den C to PN
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Commish ruling? Disallow?
EDIT: We could also all try vetoing it. I guess I'll go ahead and vote against it if it was an accident.
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D: dang
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well my reign at the top is over, anyone want to trade me assists and steals for points and fg/ft? let me know
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oooo ok I just saw this thread. I'll veto it since it was a mistake.
@Doomsville: I'm interested in Asik. Calderon for him?
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Maybe it'd be better to keep trade discussions on PMs instead of forum posts. Let's keep this thread for discussion of fantasy basketball in general, how our teams are doing, observations about particular players, etc. Discussing a league-wide issue (i.e. misclick -> trade) is even okay. However, use PMs if you want to discuss a transaction with a particular person.
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cyric laying down the law.
would it be possible for a 30-team league next season?
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Lol 30 team league. Just barely enough nba players.
Ace, not really interested in Calderon with Lowry healthy. Looking to improve on Mo.
Varejao 6 straight games with 15+ rebounds. I think he's the main reason I'm ahead.
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Again, let's please try to keep trade negotiations via PM.
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Yea I don't see how it's a big deal.
You can't really bloat up a thread that gets maybe 10 replies a day.
And I also love to know what people are/aren't looking for in a trade. It helps facilitate trades between everyone.
I agree certain things should be kept private. But as far as I'm concerned, that is up to the two parties involved to decide. If you want to discuss things in the open, I'll gladly grab some popcorn and watch.
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rubio just got picked up for $16 in the roto league, expensive/cheap/just right?
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Expensive overall.
Not expensive for Xaul Xan. Rubio is a solid fit for his lineup. He's very weak at AST/STL... which are basically the only categories Rubio helps in. And he really hadn't spent any money yet.
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I was thinking it was a bit early to bid that much on Rubio, but I had to have him. If my assists/steals keep at the same pace im going to be so far behind I won't be able to compete come late in the season. Also I can afford to sit a player for a few games, as I'm currently first in games played (a big reason why I was leading).
As for blocks, I have a ton of wing players, they may not get me one a night each, but over time they add up, Hawes was also getting me a lot before his minutes dropped off (steeply), even with Hawes playing so horribly I had a hard time giving him up for that reason, I was going to do Terry, but my FG% is hurting to much with Demar/Bargs to give up Terry who gives me 3's, and good FG/FT%'s. I also think Terrys worth will go up, where as Hawes might be stagnant.
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He also had Hawes who had 1.3 bpg. That is nothing to scoff at.
If you remove the 20 blocks Hawes has so far and add in the maybe 2 or 3 Rubio would have had in his place you're looking at a very mediocre team in blocks (pretty close to the bottom of the league). And yea, like he said you can't underestimate the impact of none bigs can have. Gallo + Harden = Hawes in terms of blocks. They've combined for 20% of his teams total blocks so far. Considering their position, that's huge.
I'd expect him to come down a bit in blocks now.
Just like my team. I'm pretty crappy in blocks too. I'm being held afloat by my point guards (LOL). Lowry + Jrue + Mo are combined for 1.8 bpg. My average blocks are probably coming down a bit (despite gaining a tad bit in the parsons for west trade). Thankfully, I think I could sit at last in blocks and still be in the lead.
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On November 29 2012 07:29 Holcan wrote:
I was thinking it was a bit early to bid that much on Rubio, but I had to have him. If my assists/steals keep at the same pace im going to be so far behind I won't be able to compete come late in the season. Also I can afford to sit a player for a few games, as I'm currently first in games played (a big reason why I was leading).
As for blocks, I have a ton of wing players, they may not get me one a night each, but over time they add up, Hawes was also getting me a lot before his minutes dropped off (steeply), even with Hawes playing so horribly I had a hard time giving him up for that reason, I was going to do Terry, but my FG% is hurting to much with Demar/Bargs to give up Terry who gives me 3's, and good FG/FT%'s. I also think Terrys worth will go up, where as Hawes might be stagnant.
Why do you think Terrys worth is going up? Personally I don't see any numbers which could go up. If anything I'd say his value goes down (his FG% is much more likely to drop than gain). And Avery Bradley eventually coming back might eat into his minutes.
I don't think it was early for Rubio. If you didn't run after him I'm sure someone else would have. Reports out of Minny are good. He's on or ahead of schedule by the looks of it.
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From what I've watched of Terry on Boston, he isnt entirely comfortable there, I think as he starts to learn the offense, and Rondo starts to understand his tendencies on the court we will see more shot attempts. I also think that as he learns his big men, he will do a better job playing off of screens, and turning the ball over less. Turn overs are his big problem right now, and I expect that to decrease as he starts to shoot more (can turn it over if you shoot) and plays more within his pace.
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That's fair. I haven't seen too many Cs games so I wasn't sure if I was missing something.
God damn Mo out another game... had to put in Jameer... hopefully he doesn't go for one of his 2/13 nights..
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my god my whole backcourt forgot how to shoot free throws today..pierce 1 from 6 wtf? lin and westbrook both 0/2...holy crap
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Ouch that's rough. Combined 1/10 from career 80+% shooters.
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On November 29 2012 11:32 DoomsVille wrote:
Ouch that's rough. Combined 1/10 from career 80+% shooters.
lol my team is shooting 33% free throws from today. i was easily going to win 6-3 or 7-2 this week, but my dudes decided to throw. now i'm up 5-4 because josh smith and jj hickson went ballistic on me.
i went from 83% FT down to 54%FT in 1 day...T.T
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Dam staying on top of injury updates is actually hard (well time-consuming) and crucial for the roto league. J-Smoove tore it UP today and have him sitting like an idiot.
edit: literally tried to put him in about 30 seconds too late too.
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Maaaaaaan, can I reserve a slot for next year? lol
Missed out on all the good leagues...stuck pwning randoms on espn :\
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Lol GrapeApe... just pay attention next October
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the nets should stop helping D will damnit, i paid 63 bucks for him and the stats aint good enough.
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wow that sucks. It actually wasn't a bad set of picks for FG% since Blake, Hibbert, LMA AND Nash would absorb the sure fire pit Monta Ellis would sink your % to. Seriously just shit luck there.
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goddamn I'm so mad about Rondo
I'm going to lose assists/steals this week all because of him
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Man my team just stopped hitting 3s completely lately. Xaul Xan catching up quickly.
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found a hidden gem in Larry Sanders, messed around and got a triple double with 10 blocks for him tonight!!
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oh please dooms...you have no right to complain in that league lol.
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Just did another trade, Joakim Noah for Kevin Martin and Luis Scola.
Sanders gets really inconsistent minutes but he's still a beast.
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Dammit O'Neal. I wanted him to solidify my reb/blks win over Doomsville and he didn't even play b/c of injury
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I feel like you gave me enough of a thumping to care about 1 or 2 categories
Man I should never try to think when I make roster decisions. Sat Mo tonight for Jameer (CP3 on Mo vs. Curry on Jameer). Turns out Mo explodes for an awesome line and Jameer was trash. From now on I'm just going to not think lol
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Not sure if Larry Sanders is for real or not but I'm way overstacked on blocks because of him. If anyone wants him I'm looking for reliable scoring and 3pt/steals on the side.
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i have been offered pau for my klay straight up...my team has no other 3 point shooters except pierce and westbrook (LOL), given this is a 16 man league, having those 3 already puts me in the middle of the pack. however i have shot blockers, my centres are varejao, patterson and monroe. i'll never win blocks anyway and i win 3 pointers half the time. is it worth the trade? hmmm. rest of my team is Lin, hayward, rip and pargo/billups
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Absolutely rebounds are the easiest to find. It all breaks down to what your typical player at a position gives against what sort of deficit/advantage your player has at that position.
For example, out of your bigs you generally want 9-10 rpg. Even the weakest rebounding bigs (BroLo for example) still average around 7 rpg. So you have a deficit of about 3 rpg when you roster one of the worst rebounding bigs (only 30% of 10). You need to make up for that (or fall behind in rebs). 3 rpg is a very small deficit. You can make that up from literally any roster position. Even some guards (Lowry, Westbrook, Rondo) easily make up that deficit. Out of a PG, you're not really expecting more than 2.5 or 3 rpg... so when one grabs 5+, it makes up for a very weak big.
On the other hand, if you look at 3pt shooting, weak guards provide a HUGE deficit. You're generally looking to get ~ 1.5 3pm per game from guards (maybe a bit higher). So if someone shoots 0.4 (like Rondo... a 73% deficit) you need to make up that 1.1 from somewhere else. That means you either need another guard that shoots 2.6+ per game (there are no PGs in the league that do that... and only a few players total) or you need a big that shoots 1+ a game (again, only a handful of players do that). That deficit is a much bigger hole to climb out of.
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I'd say you're pretty close to sunk in 3s now. You're definitely weakest in the league and I think it'd take 2 trades to bring that back up.
If I were you, I'd punt it completely. I'm generally not a fan of punting categories in ROTO (even though I basically have to punt-TOs in our league) but you don't have much of a choice. Maybe even look to trade away some of your 3pt shooters. Although I guess the only serious 3pt shooters you have left are Kyrie (whose value is at an all-time low with the injury) and Westbrook (who you probably can't afford to trade). You put yourself in a tough spot by trading both KMart and Mayo. Although I do agree you got good value for both. But now it's time to look to trade a big for a legit 3pt shooter or punt 3s.
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On December 04 2012 13:10 DoomsVille wrote:I feel like you gave me enough of a thumping to care about 1 or 2 categories Man I should never try to think when I make roster decisions. Sat Mo tonight for Jameer (CP3 on Mo vs. Curry on Jameer). Turns out Mo explodes for an awesome line and Jameer was trash. From now on I'm just going to not think lol
Nah I am out for all the points I can get, I missed last year's playoff by like 2 points (on 2 occasions I forgot to sub one player in and it cost me). So no mercy (half-kidding)...
Ya I hope Wall comes back soon. I have him in the 2 leagues now so my fantasy seasons lie on him now.
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You don't have Wall yet (Veto! Veto! Veto! Veto!)
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Haha, why I gave up my main shot-blocker so I am not sure if I won't suffer later. If only wall hit 3s tho I would be happier when he finally gets out there.
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hi guys need some advice
I'm in a 10 man H2H and a trade is pending between two other teams
jameer Nelson + metta for Lawson
is this unfair? I am offering nene and scola for Lawson
my friend (with jameer and metta) thinks its an underhanded tactic to send an offer for Lawson while trade is pending? is he right?
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yea i dont like that trade
lawson is a bit more consistent with the assists, and nelson a bit more consistent with the threes, but otherwise generally equal out in other stats
but adding metta though? thats a huge bonus the way he's playing. i'd veto that instantly just because of metta
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Disagree. That's a fair trade. Lawson has significant upside on his current stats and that is what your friend is paying for.
Good chance he regrets it later. But I don jinks it's veto able.
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On December 04 2012 15:07 Doraemon wrote:
i have been offered pau for my klay straight up...my team has no other 3 point shooters except pierce and westbrook (LOL), given this is a 16 man league, having those 3 already puts me in the middle of the pack. however i have shot blockers, my centres are varejao, patterson and monroe. i'll never win blocks anyway and i win 3 pointers half the time. is it worth the trade? hmmm. rest of my team is Lin, hayward, rip and pargo/billups
I wouldn't do it. It's hard to take pau given his current situation. And it sounds like you don't need him at all. With those bigs you're definitely punting blocks.
Bu I wouldn't fault you if you hit accept. Pau gets traded or figures out the offence and you're dancing. Way more upside than klay.
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On December 05 2012 23:42 zeks wrote:
hi guys need some advice
I'm in a 10 man H2H and a trade is pending between two other teams
jameer Nelson + metta for Lawson
is this unfair? I am offering nene and scola for Lawson
my friend (with jameer and metta) thinks its an underhanded tactic to send an offer for Lawson while trade is pending? is he right?
Agree with Doomsville. Lawson is struggling but was putting up 2nd round value only a season ago and is still a vital piece of that team. The Nuggets know that they need to get him going if they want to be at their best. Nelson and Metta are playing well right now, but neither has shown the consistent high-end production that Lawson has over the past few seasons. Not to mention that Metta may take a hit once Nash comes back since he'll have the ball less and likely take fewer shots.
Nene and Scola is a lowball offer for Lawson in my opinion. Nene has barely started playing and hasn't shown that he can return his pre-injury level of production yet. He also arguably doesn't have 2nd or 3rd round potential at this point, which Lawson does. Scola is coming off the bench and is fighting for PT, and his value is also capped because he's never been a good source of defensive statistics and his scoring and rebounding have dropped off over the past couple of seasons.
Sending a trade offer while another trade for the same player(s) is not underhanded in itself, but it does suggest some bias or ulterior motive if that same person votes against the pending trade. However, you could possibly dispel that argument by coming up with some well-reasoned unbiased reasons to veto the trade.
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I disagree with you on metta getting less shots. If anything Nash will find him for easier open looks. Even if his shot total goes down, his 3pt attempts probably goes up. You mainly have him for steals and 3s so a few less points wont hurt his value... Especially if it leads to a slightly higher percentage.
And yea, nene + Scola is definitely a low ball offer. Nene is a swift breeze away from collapsing at any time. Scola, even with unlimited play time can't put up anything beyond top 50 value. With him fighting for minutes, he's fighting for top 100.
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Lol @ Nene is a swift breeze away from collapsing at any time. Reminds me of when forgot-which-tv-analyst said "Curry and his Dorito's ankles".
Edit: agreed with the post btw.
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On December 06 2012 04:48 DoomsVille wrote:
I disagree with you on metta getting less shots. If anything Nash will find him for easier open looks. Even if his shot total goes down, his 3pt attempts probably goes up. You mainly have him for steals and 3s so a few less points wont hurt his value... Especially if it leads to a slightly higher percentage.
It remains to be seen, but I think that Nash will inevitably take some shots away from MWP since he's going to have the ball in his hands all the time and is the best shooter on the team by far. MWP is getting a good number of shots right now because he's one of the few guys who can create offense for himself and they don't really have many better options along the perimeter. He'll be downgraded immediately in both roles once Nash is back.
Also, MWP seems to play better on offense when he has the ball in his hands, as opposed to when he's asked to play off the ball. He's not a great spot-up shooter, and he tends to disappear on offense when he's not directly involved in the action. He likes to dribble a bit too much, power through people on drives, post up, and take pull-up 3 pointers. I suspect that all of that will go down once Nash is back, since he'll be dribbling less, the offense is moving further and further away from ISOs and post-ups (and Kobe will look to post more with Nash taking over PG duties), and he'll be doing more catch and shooting as opposed to shooting off the dribble.
Who knows though. If MWP can find a way to be effective off the ball, there's a definite opportunity for him to continue his production and improve his efficiency with Nash setting him up. I haven't seen any indication that he's capable of that yet since he's joined the Lakers though, so my doubts will remain.
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MWP benefited with some of his highest 3ptm% when he was in houston and played alongside aaron brooks and kyle lowry, so if the elite pg's can get him the ball, I don't see why he won't be able to fire off on those 3s. He definitely has his confidence back outside.
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On December 06 2012 05:32 Kazeyonoma wrote:
MWP benefited with some of his highest 3ptm% when he was in houston and played alongside aaron brooks and kyle lowry, so if the elite pg's can get him the ball, I don't see why he won't be able to fire off on those 3s. He definitely has his confidence back outside.
There's quite a difference between Nash and Brooks/Lowry, and the systems that they play under. If you look at MWP's usage rates and FGAs, you can see that he had the ball in his hands and shot the ball a lot while he was in HOU. Brooks and Lowry simply didn't dominate the ball the way Nash does, and MWP was free to dominate the ball and do all those things he loves to do on offense.
MWP hasn't reached anything close to that level of usage with the Lakers, including this season, and that's prior to playing next to Nash in a D'Antoni system that has him dominating the ball. I don't think you can use that season with HOU as a reference point at all considering how different the circumstances were and how different his role is.
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On December 06 2012 03:30 XaI)CyRiC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 23:42 zeks wrote:
hi guys need some advice
I'm in a 10 man H2H and a trade is pending between two other teams
jameer Nelson + metta for Lawson
is this unfair? I am offering nene and scola for Lawson
my friend (with jameer and metta) thinks its an underhanded tactic to send an offer for Lawson while trade is pending? is he right? Agree with Doomsville. Lawson is struggling but was putting up 2nd round value only a season ago and is still a vital piece of that team. The Nuggets know that they need to get him going if they want to be at their best. Nelson and Metta are playing well right now, but neither has shown the consistent high-end production that Lawson has over the past few seasons. Not to mention that Metta may take a hit once Nash comes back since he'll have the ball less and likely take fewer shots. Nene and Scola is a lowball offer for Lawson in my opinion. Nene has barely started playing and hasn't shown that he can return his pre-injury level of production yet. He also arguably doesn't have 2nd or 3rd round potential at this point, which Lawson does. Scola is coming off the bench and is fighting for PT, and his value is also capped because he's never been a good source of defensive statistics and his scoring and rebounding have dropped off over the past couple of seasons. Sending a trade offer while another trade for the same player(s) is not underhanded in itself, but it does suggest some bias or ulterior motive if that same person votes against the pending trade. However, you could possibly dispel that argument by coming up with some well-reasoned unbiased reasons to veto the trade.
what does any of that have to do their current fantasy value
they both average around the same ppg, lawson is a bit up on apg, jameer a bit up on 3pg, which is why give-and-take their value is comparable
but metta is also average 13ppg, also does pretty well on 3pg, isn't bad at all for padding ast and rebounds. and i would say you cant argue lawson is anymore consistent than metta has been.
so again, one sided trade.
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On December 06 2012 06:14 a176 wrote:what does any of that have to do their current fantasy value
they both average around the same ppg, lawson is a bit up on apg, jameer a bit up on 3pg, which is why give-and-take their value is comparable
but metta is also average 13ppg, also does pretty well on 3pg, isn't bad at all for padding ast and rebounds. and i would say you cant argue lawson is anymore consistent than metta has been.
so again, one sided trade.
There's more to a player's value than their current production. Lawson is set as the starting PG for the Nuggets, and as an essential part of the team. It's very unlikely that he'll ever struggle to get PT or scoring opportunities. As a result, he will get every opportunity to break out of his current slump and get back to providing the 2nd/3rd round production he produced last season. Is it possible he never returns to that form this season? Sure. But his potential and opportunity should definitely be considered when weighing his trade value, and his value is probably currently as low as it's ever going to be this season.
Jameer, on the other hand, has never put up 2nd/3rd round production and it seems very unlikely that he will suddenly do so this season. His value (5th round) is currently being bumped up by a career high in steals (1.6 spg), which is very unlikely to last all season since he's never shown that type of production over the past 8 years, exceeding 1 spg only once in 04/05 with 1.1 spg. It's also being boosted by a career high in 94.7 FT%, which is also unlikely to last as he's averaged closer to 80% over the past two seasons. There's no reason why he would suddenly become a thief and 90% free throw shooter in his 9th season.
His FG% and 3PT% are down significantly from the past few seasons, and that is actually explainable due to the fact that he is getting fewer clean looks due to not having D12 sucking in defenses. It's certainly possible that those numbers will go up since he's been better throughout his career, but he's played most of that with D12 getting him open looks and the drop in %'s began last season when D12 went out. I think most people expected his FG% and 3PT% to drop this season, and it's safe to assume he won't be returning to his career numbers with this roster.
While Nelson is doing a lot for ORL right now, that team is clearly in the midst of a youth movement and tanking season. Also, unlike Lawson, he's probably playing as well as he's going to play all season right now, and he's only putting up 5th round value. Assuming his steals and FT% drop and his FG% and 3PT% go up a bit, you're still looking at 5th round value, or 4th at best.
I've discussed MWP's fantasy outlook extensively already.
In the end, the trade is not lopsided because you're trading two players past their peak who haven't been in the top 100 over the past few seasons (Nelson and MWP) and are currently producing 5th round level that is unlikely to improve this season and could very easily drop later on, for an up and coming Allstar PG playing on a fantasy friendly team who put up 2nd round value last season and 2nd/3rd round value whenever he's started and has only been struggling for 18 games. You've got to consider sample size, player role, team circumstances, and talent level, and not just what the players have produced over less than 20 games. Lawson's potential is easily worth gambling on for Nelson and MWP.
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I would love to do business with you a1 . Or play poker.
What you are overlooking is consistency/upside and the fact that Lawson is the most consistent out of all three. Metta was running hot for a while, but the odds of him keeping that hot or improving upon these numbers are not very high.
Jameer has been battling injuries and has only played a few games. I don't know his numbers now but it would be better to look at his stats from the last few seasons. With no Howard, and defenses being able to focus more on him if he begins to produce, Nelson's numbers are still in the air somewhat. Not to mention you are taking a chance of injury.
Lawson is actually playing bad for his standards, yet his asst/stl numbers aren't really suffering. Throw in the fact that Denver is still in the process of figuring things out (McGee/Koufus/Manimal front-court makes it hard right now for him to drive down the lanes. Plus Gallinari is not making his 3s making them able to stretch the D, and with Iggy being new and a player that likes to fit in, they still haven't gotten the 3-ball going yet like Afflalo/Gallo last year) and you would be happy if Jameer Nelson gets close to Lawson's numbers by season's end.
And you should be looking at the trade equation as : Lawson + waiver pickup = Metta + Jameer
I would take Lawson and waiver-pickup if I had the choice.
edit:hijacked by Cyric above
edit2: I guess it's kind of important to know how many teams are in this league though b/c that could change things if it is something like 16 teams and 15 players each.just noticed it isn't a1's league and the guy said it is a 10-team H2H
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You guys are talking about trading legit first and second rounders (Pau and Lawson) for waiver wire material (Jameer, Metta) and 3 point specialists?
Jeez, if anyone wants to trade a first or second rounder for my waiver wire players, let me know, hell Ill throw in some 3 balls if thats what it takes to get a legitimate triple double threat.
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Current production from Nash, amare and dirk is 0 across the board.
Can you trade all 3 to me for no one?
Current production is a small piece of the puzzle when evaluating players. Consistency, upside, competition for minutes, susceptibility to injuries and a whole bunch of other things are important as well.
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On December 06 2012 09:03 Holcan wrote:
You guys are talking about trading legit first and second rounders (Pau and Lawson) for waiver wire material (Jameer, Metta) and 3 point specialists?
Jeez, if anyone wants to trade a first or second rounder for my waiver wire players, let me know, hell Ill throw in some 3 balls if thats what it takes to get a legitimate triple double threat.
I wouldn't call metta or jameer waiver wire material considering they're put putting up top 60 per game value. But yea I agree with your point.
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forgot to start klay thompson gg
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ben gordon has been pretty hot. picked him up a few days ago and the first game he dropped 29 with some assists. pretty coin-flippy pickup, but might be worth the risk if you need scoring and there are no other options. if he can see some starts he might be solid.
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On December 06 2012 10:35 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 09:03 Holcan wrote:
You guys are talking about trading legit first and second rounders (Pau and Lawson) for waiver wire material (Jameer, Metta) and 3 point specialists?
Jeez, if anyone wants to trade a first or second rounder for my waiver wire players, let me know, hell Ill throw in some 3 balls if thats what it takes to get a legitimate triple double threat. I wouldn't call metta or jameer waiver wire material considering they're put putting up top 60 per game value. But yea I agree with your point.
They were both on the waiver wire in the ROTO league, I thought about grabbing both, but their FG% has been historically bad so I passed. Just because they are putting up top 60 value, doesn't mean they will continue to.
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Sure. But that doesn't mean they are waiver wire material. Metta I can see falling off and being dropped.
But the only way jameer drops out of the top 130 and falls to the wire is if he gets significantly injured.
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On December 06 2012 09:26 krndandaman wrote:sigh kyrie's injury really set my team back so much he's the player I need to balance out my bigs-loaded roster. im glad I was able to get jamison off the wire but I still think I need 1 more solid guard. Would anyone be interested in Lopez, Humphries, Favors, Boozer, and/or Turner? I need a solid guard. 2 for 1 is fine too if the guard is worth it.
all I need is a big that rebounds and blocks shots
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Jameer may not drop to being on the waiver wire again, but he certainly isn't a quality player by any stretch of the imagination, I've had him before in past seasons, his fg% will drain you, now that Dwight is gone he wont be as open, and will take more of an offensive load, which means not only will his FG sink you, but his added shots will help sink you faster.
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On December 06 2012 14:05 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 09:26 krndandaman wrote:sigh kyrie's injury really set my team back so much he's the player I need to balance out my bigs-loaded roster. im glad I was able to get jamison off the wire but I still think I need 1 more solid guard. Would anyone be interested in Lopez, Humphries, Favors, Boozer, and/or Turner? I need a solid guard. 2 for 1 is fine too if the guard is worth it. all I need is a big that rebounds and blocks shots
i have so many of those and theyre all moveable
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I'm soo glad I picked up Ben Gorden! lol tre's all day! Not so happy about picking up Patrick Patterson. :[
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Uh oh. Matthews and Batum both out. Both injuries sound strange and have the possibility of going for a bit. Couple that with Durant/Lowry playing worse than usual lately and you guys have a huge window to catch up right now.
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Playing Fantasy PL really got me interested in Fantasy leagues... Too late to join TL's Fantasy Basketball? OP says draft was like back in Oct..
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On December 12 2012 15:00 Kal_rA wrote:
Playing Fantasy PL really got me interested in Fantasy leagues... Too late to join TL's Fantasy Basketball? OP says draft was like back in Oct..
well, the NBA season's been going for a while :/ (so it's unlikely that any leagues will let you join in the middle, lol)
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Yeah I figured.. but theres still like 6 months of play. I'll just find one on yahooooo and play legit next season
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30 team league next season! :3
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Hahaa, I would be down for a big league next season. Seems fun.
edit: too bad we can't give kal_ra Team Gravity...don't know if owner has logged in for weeks?
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Weird one with Grav.
The roster seems to change on a regular basis... but it does appear he's inactive.
We probably could give someone his team (if he is indeed inactive)... but who would want to take it over? It's one thing if it's H2H. But in roto... being that far back, its near impossible to catch up.
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So no one wants Collison + Gortat for a dominant rebounder/shotblocker/steals artist?
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darn, benched the wrong players today... oh well
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On December 13 2012 12:57 ]343[ wrote:
darn, benched the wrong players today... oh well
Me too ><. Made room for Gee, turrible.
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On December 13 2012 14:12 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 12:46 Ace wrote:
So no one wants Collison + Gortat for a dominant rebounder/shotblocker/steals artist? I have a poor man's version in derrick favors... lol ;D and does anyone else think that the majority of the good players in the NBA this year have gotten worse (in terms of fantasy)?
yea. Very weird season since a ton of solid picks are just worse than they should be. Seems like it's Durant (god tier), then Lebron, then everyone else in a jumbled mess.
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Durant is forced to play ridiculous minutes if Westbrook or Martin aren't rolling. He played like 43 minutes yesterday because they both were slow.
They basically don't have anyone that can score besides those 3.
God damn Ersans doing so much better now that I finally decided to drop him. Damn you mass hysteria give him back... Jerk.
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Oh I thought you had done that on purpose to pay me back after that fleecing of D.West .
Don't worry we can work something out lol. I am out for a PG in roto guys. My assists are horrible.
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My bastard PGs keep getting injured. Lowry, Mo and now Jrue supposedly injured
Jameer available.
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lowry going down is ruining me >.<
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hey everyone. i'm currently participating in a 8 team competitive $ roto league right now. unfortunately, i will be going on vacation for 2 weeks in a couple of days with limited internet access. if anyone is interested in taking care of the team while i'm away feel free to pm. we can discuss some more details VIA pm as well (maybe even a reward! ). if you need to know my current roster/ranking lemme know.
edit: i'd prefer someone who's semi active with experience if possible. I will be setting up my line ups in advance though but you can obviously change them as you see fit.
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DWill not earning his value atm =/ probably expected too much
oh come on Ace, why you tempting me like that.
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first time I'm actually doing ok overall in yahoo league 2
too bad it's h2h and not roto :/ (and too bad my current opponent is the only team in the league I who I wouldn't be winning against currently...)
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So I lost this week H2H 5-4, this was the difference
PerthWildcats FG% 0.45299145
PasswordIsTaco FG% 0.45251397
And I agree krndandaman, I love having David Lee
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On December 18 2012 03:10 rod- wrote:
So I lost this week H2H 5-4, this was the difference
PerthWildcats FG% 0.45299145
PasswordIsTaco FG% 0.45251397
And I agree krndandaman, I love having David Lee
Haha first time I've ever seen a tie-breaker like that. Or a tie-breaker really.
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On December 18 2012 03:10 rod- wrote:
So I lost this week H2H 5-4, this was the difference
PerthWildcats FG% 0.45299145
PasswordIsTaco FG% 0.45251397
And I agree krndandaman, I love having David Lee
Woah. Never seen that before.
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I think gravity quit after he picked his own team and we decided to redraft, he was left with a shitty auto pick team, most likely with a bunch of injured players.
sucks not having him, because it means that a few categories are not legitimate, as he will always be the lowest (or highest if turnovers) scored due to not enough games played.
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God damn my working evenings shifts this weekend. Didn't put in pek or Matthews and they both had solid nights.
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Didn't know holiday was back today or would have put Jrich back in also grr.
Edit: He was not a very good fantasy play without him.
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Give me a couple of days to think about the trade you proposed Mass! I'm tempted :p
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Haha kk sounds good ^^.
edit: I am still taking you down this week!
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On December 25 2012 04:31 MassHysteria wrote:
Haha kk sounds good ^^.
edit: I am still taking you down this week!
Rejected the trade, noticed I'm stacked with bigs, do you have anyone besides Drummond to compliment Millsap, maybe?
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On December 21 2012 14:59 DoomsVille wrote:
God damn my working evenings shifts this weekend. Didn't put in pek or Matthews and they both had solid nights.
hum, looks like not putting in pekovic could cost you again @_@
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Yea these evenings shifts are killing me. Never get a chance to watch games anymore. And I always forget to set my lineups. Happening in all leagues now
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Vazquez should be on my team >< so he should only be all-plus to you really. 
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yeah, Vasquez has been a pleasant surprise. I picked him because I remembered he was good in college like... 3 years ago? loooool
too bad he missed the triple double a few days ago :/
On December 31 2012 05:01 DoomsVille wrote:Yea these evenings shifts are killing me. Never get a chance to watch games anymore. And I always forget to set my lineups. Happening in all leagues now
every few weeks I just set like 3 weeks worth of lineups, lol
I guess injuries screw that up though, but at least I usually have the max # of players playing
EDIT:
lol Rondo only got 5 rebounds -> I lost by one rebound
(or I can blame Drummond)
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If you are to bench someone, who would it be? McGee or DJordan?
Jordan is averaging 9.5 points, 7.0 rebounds, and 1.6 blocks in 25.2 minutes per game this season but remains a disaster in FT-percentage (44.2 percent). and also is .597% in fg%
McGee :
19.1 mins 5.2 rebs 0.5apg 0.2spg 2.0bpg 10.7ppg .54 ft% .583 fg%
Who do you think would have a better return for only ONE game?
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Depends on what their matchups are. Just going off their last few games though without considering matchups I would probably go with mcgee. I know Jordan goes up against LAL next and I would try to avoid that play if I could.
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On January 04 2013 01:12 MassHysteria wrote:
Depends on what their matchups are. Just going off their last few games though without considering matchups I would probably go with mcgee. I know Jordan goes up against LAL next and I would try to avoid that play if I could.
Edit: plus mcgale shoots 3s now
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the matchups would be
Den vs Utah
LAC vs GS
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Look at their splits against those teams to get some idea, and how they've been playing recently
McGee vs. Utah 2012-13:
2 games;19 min/g, 7ppg, 4rpg, 0.5 spg, 1.5 bpg, 46.2 FG%
McGee 2012 Monthly Splits:
Nov: 18.75 min/g; 10.8 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 0.2 spg, 1.5 bpg, 55.1 FG%
Dec: 19.5 min/g; 11.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.3 spg, 2.6 bpg, 63.9 FG%
Jordan vs. GS 2012/13:
2 games; 22 min/g; 4 ppg, 6 rpg, 0 spg, 1.5 bpg, 42.9 FG%
Jordan 2012 Monthly Splits:
Nov: 26 min/g; 10.2 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 0.7 spg, 2.1 bpg, 59.8 FG%
Dec: 24.5 min/g; 8.7 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.8 spg, 1.2 bpg, 57.6 FG%
Looks like McGee is trending upward since Nov, but has struggled against Utah so far this season. DJ is trending downward and has really struggled against GS. I'd go with McGee, especially after seeing how DJ did against GS last night with the hack-a-DJ to boot.
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i only look at games based on season stats and recent games, didn't look at it that way cyric, thanks!
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On January 04 2013 08:18 icystorage wrote:
i only look at games based on season stats and recent games, didn't look at it that way cyric, thanks!
Np. It's not an exact analysis, but just some available information that can be considered
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Damn my boy JJack has been beasting and I forgot to start after I picked him up from Dooms =P (ESPN)
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Calderon traded! Woooooooo
Time for Lowry to finally play like he should have been playing all season.
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Lowry will see big uptick. Curious if gay will hurt derozans volume. Ed davis takes a hit after playing so well. And calderon should get a boost now in det. Dunno about austin daye or not in mem. Overall good moves for 3 teams.
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Derozan's numbers are definitely going down. Gay is a volume/iso type of player. He's going to have a high usage rate in Toronto. And Barg's is coming back too (into the starting role with Davis gone). Derozan's going to take a big hit over the next few weeks.
Calderon may see a bit of a bump. But I think Detroit is committed to Brandon Knight. Their backcourt is a bit crowded now and Calderon may not get any more minutes than he in Toronto.
Either way, kind of disappointed Toronto basically just gave the keys to the PF spot to bargnani.
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United States10328 Posts
ok so... wat
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(I guess Daozzt currently has like 4 injured players...)
also I guess my players are playing obscenely well right now, because for the first time ever I'm leading the league in points sometime after Monday
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Roto League:
Omer Asik and Tristan Thompson are on the block.
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I'm fairly impressed you managed to finish 9-0 in two separate weeks lol
EDIT: Just realized you won one of those 9-0. That's a strange way to break even in two weeks.
EDIT 2: Holy fuck I'm stupid. I now realize you're not Daozzt.
Fucking injuries man. Noah out, Kyrie out, Parsons out, LMA out, foolishly dropped pek.
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good season for the TL Espn auction roto. I think a lot of people gave up but climbing from 11th back up to 4th and almost overtaking 3rd was a good ending for me. gg guys
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Yea a bunch of you gave up.
Congrats to DoomsVille for winning TL#1, TL#2 and the ESPN Roto league :D
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i didn't gave up, i just ran out of games per position haha
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United States10328 Posts
bumping this old thread because I don't want to organize the league: anyone interested?
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im up for some roto or h2h!
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I'm for sure in for some roto
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Starting a new thread for this year. I'll organize again.
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