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WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
August 21 2012 17:41 GMT
#961
On August 22 2012 02:25 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 02:13 Rebs wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:05 Pandemona wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:01 mememolly wrote:
On August 22 2012 01:03 Stimp wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:38 pyro19 wrote:
Kagawa looks a class above.


He did?


He looked pretty solid, shame Rooney didn't turn up last night, also RVP looked lost in the united team he kept coming wide and shit


Don't forget RVP has played 20minutes of pre season football for Arsenal, and didn't play for Holland vs Belgium. To say he is under cooked is an understatement

He should of started imo just for the match fitness.


Yes RVP being unfit was the problem as to why he looked lost in the setup.

When Rooney and RVP are floating to the edges of the box and the flanks to literally take passes of their wingers and then put balls in to.. well no one, then you've got a serious problem.

Thats why kids like Hernandez are so much more useful for United the way they play their kick it to the wingers and put crosses in method. Its not just about being big and strong and all (talthough it helps). All PL teams have defenders that can handle that. Uhh correction, most PL teams.. Instinctively getting into positions is so much more valuable.

The reason RVP should be fine is because thats not the ONLY way United know how to play. They are a pretty good team playing the ball around aswell despite their garbage central midfield.

But he was the wrong man for the situation yesterday. No amount of match fitness would have changed that. Well unless you expect like some stunner from outside the box or a significant improvement from United's flanks.


Indeed also why when many people heard his signing where thinking RVP would be playing with another striker maybe and dropping Rooney behind them both with Kagawa alongside him or something. It's going to be hard to fit rooney and rvp into a team as they both like to pick the ball up and run with it basically. The reason Barca only have 1 Striker is due to the same reason?

Adebayor returns to Spurs
Tottenham Hotspur have announced the signing of Manchester City striker Emmanuel Adebayor.
Source


That's good, we needed a striker desperately, not that Ade had the best season for us last season, especially towards the end of last season. I was much more excited about the prospect of Dzeko though, I am guessing now that Ade has gone through that deal is out of the picture. Hopefully we can buy another attacking player if Modric leaves before the window ends, which looks more and more likely.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
August 21 2012 18:03 GMT
#962
On August 22 2012 02:15 Signet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 02:10 Ysellian wrote:
I'm guessing Buttner is going to be second choice behind Evra for left back position? Will be interesting to see how he's going to develop.

Yeah he's a cover player for now. With Fabio on loan and with how poor the developing LBs looked in the preseason, somebody needed to be brought in. I'm glad it wasn't Baines, as Evra is still a good starter who just needs a competent backup, and the team still needs some sort of ball-winning physical midfielder.


Is Fletcher still a possibility to return to the squad? I can't remember the last time I've seen him play, but he was always excellent as a ball-winner IMO.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 21 2012 18:05 GMT
#963
On August 22 2012 02:41 WArped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 02:25 Pandemona wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:13 Rebs wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:05 Pandemona wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:01 mememolly wrote:
On August 22 2012 01:03 Stimp wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:38 pyro19 wrote:
Kagawa looks a class above.


He did?


He looked pretty solid, shame Rooney didn't turn up last night, also RVP looked lost in the united team he kept coming wide and shit


Don't forget RVP has played 20minutes of pre season football for Arsenal, and didn't play for Holland vs Belgium. To say he is under cooked is an understatement

He should of started imo just for the match fitness.


Yes RVP being unfit was the problem as to why he looked lost in the setup.

When Rooney and RVP are floating to the edges of the box and the flanks to literally take passes of their wingers and then put balls in to.. well no one, then you've got a serious problem.

Thats why kids like Hernandez are so much more useful for United the way they play their kick it to the wingers and put crosses in method. Its not just about being big and strong and all (talthough it helps). All PL teams have defenders that can handle that. Uhh correction, most PL teams.. Instinctively getting into positions is so much more valuable.

The reason RVP should be fine is because thats not the ONLY way United know how to play. They are a pretty good team playing the ball around aswell despite their garbage central midfield.

But he was the wrong man for the situation yesterday. No amount of match fitness would have changed that. Well unless you expect like some stunner from outside the box or a significant improvement from United's flanks.


Indeed also why when many people heard his signing where thinking RVP would be playing with another striker maybe and dropping Rooney behind them both with Kagawa alongside him or something. It's going to be hard to fit rooney and rvp into a team as they both like to pick the ball up and run with it basically. The reason Barca only have 1 Striker is due to the same reason?

Adebayor returns to Spurs
Tottenham Hotspur have announced the signing of Manchester City striker Emmanuel Adebayor.
Source


That's good, we needed a striker desperately, not that Ade had the best season for us last season, especially towards the end of last season. I was much more excited about the prospect of Dzeko though, I am guessing now that Ade has gone through that deal is out of the picture. Hopefully we can buy another attacking player if Modric leaves before the window ends, which looks more and more likely.


Tottenham really do need a striker...Almost any Half Decent Striker would suit them better than Defoe right now
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 21 2012 18:06 GMT
#964
On August 22 2012 03:03 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 02:15 Signet wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:10 Ysellian wrote:
I'm guessing Buttner is going to be second choice behind Evra for left back position? Will be interesting to see how he's going to develop.

Yeah he's a cover player for now. With Fabio on loan and with how poor the developing LBs looked in the preseason, somebody needed to be brought in. I'm glad it wasn't Baines, as Evra is still a good starter who just needs a competent backup, and the team still needs some sort of ball-winning physical midfielder.


Is Fletcher still a possibility to return to the squad? I can't remember the last time I've seen him play, but he was always excellent as a ball-winner IMO.


He was fit Enough to play 20 mins in a Testimonial Match.
Definitely on his way to Recovery but by no means will he be Match fit before Christmas.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
August 21 2012 18:12 GMT
#965
On August 22 2012 03:03 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 02:15 Signet wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:10 Ysellian wrote:
I'm guessing Buttner is going to be second choice behind Evra for left back position? Will be interesting to see how he's going to develop.

Yeah he's a cover player for now. With Fabio on loan and with how poor the developing LBs looked in the preseason, somebody needed to be brought in. I'm glad it wasn't Baines, as Evra is still a good starter who just needs a competent backup, and the team still needs some sort of ball-winning physical midfielder.


Is Fletcher still a possibility to return to the squad? I can't remember the last time I've seen him play, but he was always excellent as a ball-winner IMO.

He played in a preseason testimonial and I think played in a friendly for Scotland (?).

The club confirmed in December that he has ulcerative colitis, which is incurable. I don't think he will ever be fit enough to play EPL football again... a positive outcome here looks more like him having decent health than regaining top-class athletic prowess
seenster
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany385 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 19:21:55
August 21 2012 19:09 GMT
#966
Nobody watching any CL-qualifiers? Borussia Mönchengladbach (ger) is up 1:0 against Dynamo Kiew (ukr).
Pretty good game.

edit: sry for bad english
edit2: 1:2 it is. shouldn't have jinxed it.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4755 Posts
August 21 2012 19:34 GMT
#967
I am so unhappy
Dominating the first 25 minutes, then two shots result in two goals against. Typical match progression for an unexperienced team.
CL just once would be so sweet -.-
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 21 2012 20:27 GMT
#968
Wow Celtic winning 2-0 away from home :S Unlike them.

2-0 vs Hellsinborgs.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
August 21 2012 20:38 GMT
#969
On August 22 2012 02:41 WArped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 02:25 Pandemona wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:13 Rebs wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:05 Pandemona wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:01 mememolly wrote:
On August 22 2012 01:03 Stimp wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:38 pyro19 wrote:
Kagawa looks a class above.


He did?


He looked pretty solid, shame Rooney didn't turn up last night, also RVP looked lost in the united team he kept coming wide and shit


Don't forget RVP has played 20minutes of pre season football for Arsenal, and didn't play for Holland vs Belgium. To say he is under cooked is an understatement

He should of started imo just for the match fitness.


Yes RVP being unfit was the problem as to why he looked lost in the setup.

When Rooney and RVP are floating to the edges of the box and the flanks to literally take passes of their wingers and then put balls in to.. well no one, then you've got a serious problem.

Thats why kids like Hernandez are so much more useful for United the way they play their kick it to the wingers and put crosses in method. Its not just about being big and strong and all (talthough it helps). All PL teams have defenders that can handle that. Uhh correction, most PL teams.. Instinctively getting into positions is so much more valuable.

The reason RVP should be fine is because thats not the ONLY way United know how to play. They are a pretty good team playing the ball around aswell despite their garbage central midfield.

But he was the wrong man for the situation yesterday. No amount of match fitness would have changed that. Well unless you expect like some stunner from outside the box or a significant improvement from United's flanks.


Indeed also why when many people heard his signing where thinking RVP would be playing with another striker maybe and dropping Rooney behind them both with Kagawa alongside him or something. It's going to be hard to fit rooney and rvp into a team as they both like to pick the ball up and run with it basically. The reason Barca only have 1 Striker is due to the same reason?

Adebayor returns to Spurs
Tottenham Hotspur have announced the signing of Manchester City striker Emmanuel Adebayor.
Source


That's good, we needed a striker desperately, not that Ade had the best season for us last season, especially towards the end of last season. I was much more excited about the prospect of Dzeko though, I am guessing now that Ade has gone through that deal is out of the picture. Hopefully we can buy another attacking player if Modric leaves before the window ends, which looks more and more likely.

I read somewehre that they are in Brazil for Damião
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
August 21 2012 20:38 GMT
#970
On August 22 2012 03:12 Signet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:03 Ysellian wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:15 Signet wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:10 Ysellian wrote:
I'm guessing Buttner is going to be second choice behind Evra for left back position? Will be interesting to see how he's going to develop.

Yeah he's a cover player for now. With Fabio on loan and with how poor the developing LBs looked in the preseason, somebody needed to be brought in. I'm glad it wasn't Baines, as Evra is still a good starter who just needs a competent backup, and the team still needs some sort of ball-winning physical midfielder.


Is Fletcher still a possibility to return to the squad? I can't remember the last time I've seen him play, but he was always excellent as a ball-winner IMO.

He played in a preseason testimonial and I think played in a friendly for Scotland (?).

The club confirmed in December that he has ulcerative colitis, which is incurable. I don't think he will ever be fit enough to play EPL football again... a positive outcome here looks more like him having decent health than regaining top-class athletic prowess


That's really sad news Had no idea it was that bad.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 21 2012 20:46 GMT
#971
I'm really interested to see what striker Chelsea is going to bring in. Ade back in Tottenham...good news for them...also makes Bale more valuable in fantasy. Going to provide more selection headaches lol.
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
August 21 2012 21:55 GMT
#972
On August 22 2012 05:38 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:12 Signet wrote:
On August 22 2012 03:03 Ysellian wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:15 Signet wrote:
On August 22 2012 02:10 Ysellian wrote:
I'm guessing Buttner is going to be second choice behind Evra for left back position? Will be interesting to see how he's going to develop.

Yeah he's a cover player for now. With Fabio on loan and with how poor the developing LBs looked in the preseason, somebody needed to be brought in. I'm glad it wasn't Baines, as Evra is still a good starter who just needs a competent backup, and the team still needs some sort of ball-winning physical midfielder.


Is Fletcher still a possibility to return to the squad? I can't remember the last time I've seen him play, but he was always excellent as a ball-winner IMO.

He played in a preseason testimonial and I think played in a friendly for Scotland (?).

The club confirmed in December that he has ulcerative colitis, which is incurable. I don't think he will ever be fit enough to play EPL football again... a positive outcome here looks more like him having decent health than regaining top-class athletic prowess


That's really sad news Had no idea it was that bad.

Yeah it's an awful thing. One of my friends has that disease, things can be going well then without any notice take a real nose-dive. Life can be quite unfair...
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
August 22 2012 07:12 GMT
#973
On August 22 2012 04:34 Malinor wrote:
I am so unhappy
Dominating the first 25 minutes, then two shots result in two goals against. Typical match progression for an unexperienced team.
CL just once would be so sweet -.-

BMG didn't deserve to lose 1-3, that was really unfortunate. A defelected shot and an own goal
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 10:12:12
August 22 2012 08:20 GMT
#974

Gunners close to Sahin deal
Sky Sports sources understand a deal has been agreed for Real Madrid midfielder Nuri Sahin to move to Arsenal.
Source

Potters closing on Huddlestone
Tom Huddlestone is at Stoke City to undergo a medical ahead of his proposed loan switch from Tottenham Hotspur.
Source

QPR agree Carvalho deal
Sky Sports sources understand that Queens Park Rangers have agreed a deal in principle to sign Real Madrid defender Ricardo Carvalho on a season-long loan.
Source



Gunners look to have won the race to bring in Sahin, which im quite suprised at really. Thought he and Liverpool would of stepped up their interests alot more. Good signing for Arsenal, i rate Sahin >>> over Song by a lot ^_^

QPR Signing Carvalho and Dawson by the looks of it,they might stop conceding now! Might have to start calling them Chelsea rejects back 4 as well >.< Carvalho and Bosingwa
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
August 22 2012 10:34 GMT
#975
I hope we sign a defensive mid as well, but I won't say no to Sahin.

Celtic winning away against Helsingborg isn't all that surprising. Swedish football have been down the shitter for years (only exception is the national team).

Also, Welbeck has signed a contract extension with Man United. Source.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
August 22 2012 13:14 GMT
#976
I find it crazy that Man City still have to pay £95k of Adebayor's wages. Crazy, how are they getting a good deal from this
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1080 Posts
August 22 2012 13:38 GMT
#977
On August 22 2012 22:14 TonyL2 wrote:
I find it crazy that Man City still have to pay £95k of Adebayor's wages. Crazy, how are they getting a good deal from this


[image loading]

Good deal, lol.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
August 22 2012 14:33 GMT
#978
On August 22 2012 22:14 TonyL2 wrote:
I find it crazy that Man City still have to pay £95k of Adebayor's wages. Crazy, how are they getting a good deal from this


Yeah, I don't understand this either, was there some weird clause in his original man city contract or something?
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
August 22 2012 14:42 GMT
#979
On August 22 2012 23:33 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 22:14 TonyL2 wrote:
I find it crazy that Man City still have to pay £95k of Adebayor's wages. Crazy, how are they getting a good deal from this


Yeah, I don't understand this either, was there some weird clause in his original man city contract or something?


They can't sell Adebayor without him agreeing to the sale. He earned 175k/w or sth at City and didn't want to take a paycut to join a new club. Either have him in the reserves for 175k/w or subsidize his wages at his new club.

Crazy but that's what you get for paying insane wages.
anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
August 22 2012 14:54 GMT
#980
Guess it's only till his original contract with city would expire, I think that's how it usually works, had some deals recently in football manager like that and they usually have the contracts like they are in reality.
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