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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
May 30 2013 20:11 GMT
#9041
On May 31 2013 03:10 Influ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 02:53 dmnum wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:50 Asshat wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:35 Da-Muffinman wrote:
Dante and Gustavo wont play in the German Cup final on saturday, because they need to be in Brazil 1st of June for the ConFed Cup, otherwise they wont be allowed to play there. Sucks for Bayern, they are losing their imo best starting CB and the 1st defensive midfield sub. Maybe better chances for Stuttgart - but still, I don't see them winning either way.



My question is: Is that just for the Brazilians? Is it a FIFA-rule? Martinez plays for Bayern, it doesn't look like he has to go & Okazaki/Sakai for Stuttgart and they don't have to go either as it seems.


Edit: Funfact - Dante and Gustavo need to be in Brazil 1st of June but it seems ok for Neymar to do a fotoshoot in Barcelona the same day. What the actual fuck. I guess Neymar is far more important than some decent defenders. (This is just a rumor, but if true, then idk why Brazil can't wait for Dante/Gustavo to appear on monday)


It's just the CBF being complete scumbags. Neymar gets special treatment because of sponsors (Nike)/money/media (Guys he can be better than Messi huehuehue). I'd say I can't wait for the Confederation's Cup and to see Brazil ass-whooped, but I'm not looking forward to the chaos it will bring to those who are more interested in work/school than "panem et circenses".

You are wrong. If Dante and Gustavo play on the german cup final, they can't play on the confederations cup. FIFA requires the players to show up 14 days before oficial competitions. If you want to blame it on someone, blame it on FIFA who makes the rules.
Neymar is doing his "photoshoot" after the game. He's already training with the national team. He will fly after the England friendly and then he'll be back on tuesday to train.


Afaik this is wrong. FIFA compels clubs to make their players available 14 days before the match. This doesn't mean that the player has to show up somewhere only that the club isn't allowed to stand in the way of the player to show up.

Brazil plays against Japan first, and afaik the japanese players of VfB Stuttgart will play the DFB-Pokal final AND the Confederations Cup without any problems.
So yeah, it's just the CBF being dicks. I know the Confederations Cup is important for Brazil, but Dante and Gustavo starting training with the national team 2 days later should not impede their chances.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
May 30 2013 20:58 GMT
#9042
On May 31 2013 05:10 city42 wrote:
I know he isn't as big a name as Neymar, but can anyone from Brazil comment on how good Leandro Damiao is? It seems he might be coming to Europe but it's impossible to judge him fairly from a couple youtube videos.


Damião has potential to play well, but lately has been just an average player.

Maybe because he plays for a shitty team + Show Spoiler +
rival to the team I'm fan of
.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Tileks
Profile Joined January 2013
Brazil74 Posts
May 30 2013 21:38 GMT
#9043
On May 31 2013 05:58 fabiano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 05:10 city42 wrote:
I know he isn't as big a name as Neymar, but can anyone from Brazil comment on how good Leandro Damiao is? It seems he might be coming to Europe but it's impossible to judge him fairly from a couple youtube videos.


Damião has potential to play well, but lately has been just an average player.

Maybe because he plays for a shitty team + Show Spoiler +
rival to the team I'm fan of
.


He is a good player, but his decision making is sometimes strange, like shooting from pretty far from goal when there is a good passing option. I think that can be worked.

I follow him a lot because he play for awesome team + Show Spoiler +
the team I'm fan of. Rival to Fabiano's team
.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
May 30 2013 22:05 GMT
#9044
On May 31 2013 04:46 Asshat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 02:53 dmnum wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:50 Asshat wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:35 Da-Muffinman wrote:
Dante and Gustavo wont play in the German Cup final on saturday, because they need to be in Brazil 1st of June for the ConFed Cup, otherwise they wont be allowed to play there. Sucks for Bayern, they are losing their imo best starting CB and the 1st defensive midfield sub. Maybe better chances for Stuttgart - but still, I don't see them winning either way.



My question is: Is that just for the Brazilians? Is it a FIFA-rule? Martinez plays for Bayern, it doesn't look like he has to go & Okazaki/Sakai for Stuttgart and they don't have to go either as it seems.


Edit: Funfact - Dante and Gustavo need to be in Brazil 1st of June but it seems ok for Neymar to do a fotoshoot in Barcelona the same day. What the actual fuck. I guess Neymar is far more important than some decent defenders. (This is just a rumor, but if true, then idk why Brazil can't wait for Dante/Gustavo to appear on monday)


It's just the CBF being complete scumbags. Neymar gets special treatment because of sponsors (Nike)/money/media (Guys he can be better than Messi huehuehue). I'd say I can't wait for the Confederation's Cup and to see Brazil ass-whooped, but I'm not looking forward to the chaos it will bring to those who are more interested in work/school than "panem et circenses".

You are wrong. If Dante and Gustavo play on the german cup final, they can't play on the confederations cup. FIFA requires the players to show up 14 days before oficial competitions. If you want to blame it on someone, blame it on FIFA who makes the rules.
Neymar is doing his "photoshoot" after the game. He's already training with the national team. He will fly after the England friendly and then he'll be back on tuesday to train.


That's just a token rule that only exists for cases of dispute such as this. Do you really think that's strictly enforced? Do you really think they'd be banned from playing the Confederation's Cup had they showed up after 23:59 on Sunday? When both sides are reasonable and come to an agreement the player could just as well show up a day before competition starts and nothing would come of it.

This is just the CBF being completely unreasonable and refusing to give an inch, but what else to expect from them, it's the CBF.
A token rule is still a rule. Again, CBF is only enforcing something FIFA created. If you don't like it and think it's unfair, blame FIFA. CBF's not doing anything illegal(this time).
eaT_Mi_Lquid
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany509 Posts
May 30 2013 22:27 GMT
#9045
On May 31 2013 07:05 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 04:46 Asshat wrote:
On May 31 2013 02:53 dmnum wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:50 Asshat wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:35 Da-Muffinman wrote:
Dante and Gustavo wont play in the German Cup final on saturday, because they need to be in Brazil 1st of June for the ConFed Cup, otherwise they wont be allowed to play there. Sucks for Bayern, they are losing their imo best starting CB and the 1st defensive midfield sub. Maybe better chances for Stuttgart - but still, I don't see them winning either way.



My question is: Is that just for the Brazilians? Is it a FIFA-rule? Martinez plays for Bayern, it doesn't look like he has to go & Okazaki/Sakai for Stuttgart and they don't have to go either as it seems.


Edit: Funfact - Dante and Gustavo need to be in Brazil 1st of June but it seems ok for Neymar to do a fotoshoot in Barcelona the same day. What the actual fuck. I guess Neymar is far more important than some decent defenders. (This is just a rumor, but if true, then idk why Brazil can't wait for Dante/Gustavo to appear on monday)


It's just the CBF being complete scumbags. Neymar gets special treatment because of sponsors (Nike)/money/media (Guys he can be better than Messi huehuehue). I'd say I can't wait for the Confederation's Cup and to see Brazil ass-whooped, but I'm not looking forward to the chaos it will bring to those who are more interested in work/school than "panem et circenses".

You are wrong. If Dante and Gustavo play on the german cup final, they can't play on the confederations cup. FIFA requires the players to show up 14 days before oficial competitions. If you want to blame it on someone, blame it on FIFA who makes the rules.
Neymar is doing his "photoshoot" after the game. He's already training with the national team. He will fly after the England friendly and then he'll be back on tuesday to train.


That's just a token rule that only exists for cases of dispute such as this. Do you really think that's strictly enforced? Do you really think they'd be banned from playing the Confederation's Cup had they showed up after 23:59 on Sunday? When both sides are reasonable and come to an agreement the player could just as well show up a day before competition starts and nothing would come of it.

This is just the CBF being completely unreasonable and refusing to give an inch, but what else to expect from them, it's the CBF.
A token rule is still a rule. Again, CBF is only enforcing something FIFA created. If you don't like it and think it's unfair, blame FIFA. CBF's not doing anything illegal(this time).


No ! Because, this is exactly why it is a dick move ! Instead of showing class like Japan or Spain who let their players play their final (Okazaki for VFB and Martinez for Bayern). CBF just says .. 'He... there is this stupid rule of FIFA, you guys have to be here on the 1st OR YOU WILL NEVER PLAY FOR BRAZIL again' ... - this is blackmailing !

even more ridiculous, they have this hypocrite morale and let Neymar do his photoshoot !! wtf ... he has to travel to Spain and back ??? dont tell me thats not straining your body.

But well ... this is how the world is... there will always be injustice and hypocrites. But surely Karma will come and get CBF ....
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Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
May 31 2013 00:24 GMT
#9046
Brazil vs England friendly suspended because of public safety concerns. Not that the suspension will last more than a few hours, even though those safety issues do exist. A single magistrate won't be able to withstand the combined might of the three biggest powers in the country (in that order, Globo TV - CBF - Brazilian government) for long.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 31 2013 00:38 GMT
#9047
Apparently Liverpool have signed Celta's forward Iago Aspas for £9m.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/10087606/Liverpool-sign-Celta-Vigo-forward-Iago-Aspas-for-9m.html
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 09:23:23
May 31 2013 07:48 GMT
#9048


News!

Paris Saint-Germain sporting director Leonardo was on Thursday handed a nine-month suspension after being found guilty of pushing a referee.

Porto centre-back Eliaquim Mangala has admitted he is flattered to be linked with a summer move to Chelsea under Jose Mourinho

Liverpool striker Luis Suarez has cast further doubts over his future by contradicting his agent and again suggesting he could leave Anfield in the summer transfer window

Espanyol midfielder Mubarak Wakaso is flattered by reports linking him with Everton and Juventus.

Sunderland are understood to have agreed a deal to sign Lazio centre-back Modibo Diakite.

Manchester City starlet Abdisalam Ibrahim admits he is flattered to be linked with other Premier League clubs

Reported Premier League target Kyriakos Papadopoulos has no intention of leaving Schalke this summer, according to his agent

Ralf Rangnick has emerged as a contender for the Everton job after being Interviewed

Rumours linking Cesc Fabregas with a move back to England are wide of the mark, according to Guillem Balague.


Victor Valdes Press Conference About To Start
Valdes explains that after 20 years at club and due to the "weight" of shirt,he wont renew.He is open to all options, even staying till 2014
Valdes: "I dont feel tomorrow's is my last game". But has added club and player should find best solution. He wants 2 discover new countries

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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
May 31 2013 09:09 GMT
#9049
Is Kyriakos Papadopoulos as much of a beast in real life as he is on FM2013? :X
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 31 2013 10:57 GMT
#9050
Re: News: Apparently David Villa has an offer from Arsenal on the table. And they are apparently close to signing Lyon's attacking midfielder Clement Grenier, but there haven't been any updates on that story in a few days.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
May 31 2013 10:59 GMT
#9051
On May 31 2013 18:09 warding wrote:
Is Kyriakos Papadopoulos as much of a beast in real life as he is on FM2013? :X


I personally believe he is as good as any young CB across Europe right now. I think he needs a test in Champs League before he is deemed REALLY good though, but i would like to see him at Chelsea if we need a CB
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 31 2013 11:15 GMT
#9052
He is hands down the best cb in the world in his age.
Pandemona he played with schalke 2 years ago when they reached the semis, he was only 19 years old and he completely dominated inter, remember that 2-5 in milan in the quarters?

I follow him since his first appearance for olympiakos when he was 14 years old and that dude is just ridiculous.
His passing and vision are also very good, so he can play dm as well.
Trust me, whichever big team purchases him will be blessed, lol.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
May 31 2013 11:24 GMT
#9053
Btw here are some nice Bundesliga 2012/13 videos

Top 5 Bayern Munich goals

Top 5 Borussia Dortmund goals

Top 10 Bundesliga goals

I was wondering if there are sky channels with similar content for bpl or primera division? I cant find any strangely enough.
Respect my authoritah!!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
May 31 2013 11:34 GMT
#9054
On May 31 2013 20:15 Steveling wrote:
He is hands down the best cb in the world in his age.
Pandemona he played with schalke 2 years ago when they reached the semis, he was only 19 years old and he completely dominated inter, remember that 2-5 in milan in the quarters?

I follow him since his first appearance for olympiakos when he was 14 years old and that dude is just ridiculous.
His passing and vision are also very good, so he can play dm as well.
Trust me, whichever big team purchases him will be blessed, lol.


Ahh i thought he might of been a bit to young to play for them back then. Damn haha, madness. Hope Chelsea splash the cash on him then
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 12:16:23
May 31 2013 12:10 GMT
#9055


Transfer News!

Luis Suarez confirms he wants to leave Liverpool This Summer;
Suarez: "My reason for leaving is not money. It is my family and my image. I don't feel comfortable here anymore."


ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
May 31 2013 12:19 GMT
#9056
good riddance!
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 12:31:54
May 31 2013 12:29 GMT
#9057
On May 31 2013 20:34 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 20:15 Steveling wrote:
He is hands down the best cb in the world in his age.
Pandemona he played with schalke 2 years ago when they reached the semis, he was only 19 years old and he completely dominated inter, remember that 2-5 in milan in the quarters?

I follow him since his first appearance for olympiakos when he was 14 years old and that dude is just ridiculous.
His passing and vision are also very good, so he can play dm as well.
Trust me, whichever big team purchases him will be blessed, lol.


Ahh i thought he might of been a bit to young to play for them back then. Damn haha, madness. Hope Chelsea splash the cash on him then

Papadopoulos is still recovering from a long-term injury, so I don't know if it's advisable to buy him right now. Maybe he should stay at Schalke for one more year, he played only 10 games for them last season.

And for Suarez, let's just say it's unlikely that he'll find happiness in England
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
May 31 2013 12:32 GMT
#9058
But didn't schalke again miss out on Europe? (2nd season in a row) Would be better to get him some more champs league experience? Plus Chelsea have 3 good CBs for example and he could learn his way into the team?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
May 31 2013 12:38 GMT
#9059
On May 31 2013 21:32 Pandemona wrote:
But didn't schalke again miss out on Europe? (2nd season in a row) Would be better to get him some more champs league experience? Plus Chelsea have 3 good CBs for example and he could learn his way into the team?


Schalke played in the Champions League this season, they have topped the group with Arsenal. They ended up in 4th place this season, so they have to go through the CL-qualifier next season.

But yeah, if someone is willing to pay 20M+ for him despite his injury, Schalke will have no problem letting him leave, they have 2 other strong CBs.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
May 31 2013 12:46 GMT
#9060
Oooo i must be getting Schalke confused with some other German team XD

Still if thats the case, no reason why can't let him play 6months in Germany then sign him in January
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