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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6284 Posts
May 30 2013 11:54 GMT
#9021
On May 30 2013 20:46 kyllinghest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 20:37 sharkie wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I think fabregas would be fantastic in united

no comment on the price though but that's more of a general thing - I'm just in no position to possibly evaluate how much money a club can afford to spend on a player and how much they expect to get in returns.


fabregas sucks on the wings, they already have a fantastic ACM in Kagawa, why would they waste 30mil on fabregas who clearly lost a lot of his ability/skills in barca

I agree they don't need him when they have Kagawa, but skills and abilities like the ones Fabregas possesess does not simply disappear. Class is permanent!

Both Kluivert and Torres would disagree =/
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 12:01:29
May 30 2013 12:00 GMT
#9022
On May 30 2013 20:54 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 20:46 kyllinghest wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:37 sharkie wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I think fabregas would be fantastic in united

no comment on the price though but that's more of a general thing - I'm just in no position to possibly evaluate how much money a club can afford to spend on a player and how much they expect to get in returns.


fabregas sucks on the wings, they already have a fantastic ACM in Kagawa, why would they waste 30mil on fabregas who clearly lost a lot of his ability/skills in barca

I agree they don't need him when they have Kagawa, but skills and abilities like the ones Fabregas possesess does not simply disappear. Class is permanent!

Both Kluivert and Torres would disagree =/

They didn't possess the smartness, guile and flair that Fabregas does though. He isn't about pace and power. I think he would be a great addition to almost any team in the world.

Edit: and Torres has had a major slump, but I still think he will become a great player again.
"NO" -Has
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 30 2013 12:09 GMT
#9023
Haha, 30m for fabregas, lol, buy him please.
SAF will be tearing up, rofl.

Now, where will cavani go?
I think he will prove 100% clutch wherever he goes.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
May 30 2013 12:11 GMT
#9024
Abidal is going to leave Barca this summer as his contract wont be renewed. He still wanted to play for Barca but the Club hasn't offered him a new contract. He wants to continue for 2 more years somewhere else, after some final minutes in the Camp Nou. He implied that he is going back to Barca after his career as a player.

"I wanted to continue here, but the club saw it differently and I respect that. I leave now, but I will be back."
But does it djent?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18667 Posts
May 30 2013 12:15 GMT
#9025
On May 30 2013 21:00 kyllinghest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 20:54 RvB wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:46 kyllinghest wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:37 sharkie wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I think fabregas would be fantastic in united

no comment on the price though but that's more of a general thing - I'm just in no position to possibly evaluate how much money a club can afford to spend on a player and how much they expect to get in returns.


fabregas sucks on the wings, they already have a fantastic ACM in Kagawa, why would they waste 30mil on fabregas who clearly lost a lot of his ability/skills in barca

I agree they don't need him when they have Kagawa, but skills and abilities like the ones Fabregas possesess does not simply disappear. Class is permanent!

Both Kluivert and Torres would disagree =/

They didn't possess the smartness, guile and flair that Fabregas does though. He isn't about pace and power. I think he would be a great addition to almost any team in the world.

Edit: and Torres has had a major slump, but I still think he will become a great player again.


great addition to almost any team in the world except barca, bayern, real, etc?

what manutd needs isnt more offensive power which they had plenty of this season, its holding midfielders...
Savage88
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany132 Posts
May 30 2013 12:24 GMT
#9026
So Schürrle to Chelsea. I hope he does not become the next Marin.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
May 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#9027
On May 30 2013 21:15 sharkie wrote:
great addition to almost any team in the world except barca, bayern, real, etc?

what manutd needs isnt more offensive power which they had plenty of this season, its holding midfielders...

I already said in the string of posts that you quoted that I don't think its wise of Man Utd to spend money on an attacking midfielder, but I definately think he could do a very good job there.
"NO" -Has
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
May 30 2013 12:50 GMT
#9028
On May 30 2013 20:35 Da-Muffinman wrote:
Dante and Gustavo wont play in the German Cup final on saturday, because they need to be in Brazil 1st of June for the ConFed Cup, otherwise they wont be allowed to play there. Sucks for Bayern, they are losing their imo best starting CB and the 1st defensive midfield sub. Maybe better chances for Stuttgart - but still, I don't see them winning either way.



My question is: Is that just for the Brazilians? Is it a FIFA-rule? Martinez plays for Bayern, it doesn't look like he has to go & Okazaki/Sakai for Stuttgart and they don't have to go either as it seems.


Edit: Funfact - Dante and Gustavo need to be in Brazil 1st of June but it seems ok for Neymar to do a fotoshoot in Barcelona the same day. What the actual fuck. I guess Neymar is far more important than some decent defenders. (This is just a rumor, but if true, then idk why Brazil can't wait for Dante/Gustavo to appear on monday)


It's just the CBF being complete scumbags. Neymar gets special treatment because of sponsors (Nike)/money/media (Guys he can be better than Messi huehuehue). I'd say I can't wait for the Confederation's Cup and to see Brazil ass-whooped, but I'm not looking forward to the chaos it will bring to those who are more interested in work/school than "panem et circenses".
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#9029
By the way those who have yet to see;

Confederations Cup 2013 thread is now up, head over there to discuss all things Brasillia!

European U21 Championship thread is also live for all those who want to look at the best talent Europe has to show at the international level
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 15:39:18
May 30 2013 15:19 GMT
#9030
Lille's defence player Aurelien Chedjou signed four years contract with Galatasaray.

Very good transfer for Gala

next target > gervinho
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
mavignon
Profile Joined November 2010
France369 Posts
May 30 2013 15:54 GMT
#9031
Yeah Chedjou is quite good

clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
May 30 2013 16:59 GMT
#9032
ganso interested in psg's *unofficial offer*,if we get him that'll be ganso and lucas.fuck neymar
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 17:30:18
May 30 2013 17:28 GMT
#9033


News

Heynckes backed for Real role - Jupp Heynckes has replaced Carlo Ancelotti as Sky Bet's new favourite to be the next Real Madrid manager

Real Madrid president Florentino Perez has admitted an interest in Premier League stars Luis Suarez and Gareth Bale.

Reports in Spain claim a deal has been agreed with Real Madrid for Luis Suarez. But the Uruguayan's agent has told Sky Sports News this is not the case.

Sky Sports sources understand Sunderland have agreed a deal to sign centre-back Modibo Diakite from Lazio

Hannover have signed defender Salif Sane from French side Nancy for an undisclosed fee

Striker Djamel Bakar is ready to make an impact at Montpellier after the club confirmed he will sign a four-year deal following his departure from Nancy

Montpellier playmaker Younes Belhanda has reiterated his desire to secure a summer switch to England or Germany

Victor Valdes is reported to have called a press conference for Friday, when it is believed he will announce his departure from Barcelona with Monaco looking favourites to land him

Andre Schurrle's proposed move from Bayer Leverkusen to Chelsea looks to have moved a step closer after the Bundesliga club's general manager said a fee had been agreed

Bojan Krkic’s father says his son will be loaned out to either, Swansea or Liverpool, Bojan spent this term on loan at the San Siro from Barcelona

According to L’Equipe, Jose Mourinho is ready to battle with Monaco to sign Porto's highly rated defender Eliaquim Mangala for Chelsea

Hulk's agent has revealed that two Premier League clubs have contacted him about his client, but denied having any talks with big-spending Monaco

ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
May 30 2013 17:53 GMT
#9034
On May 30 2013 21:50 Asshat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 20:35 Da-Muffinman wrote:
Dante and Gustavo wont play in the German Cup final on saturday, because they need to be in Brazil 1st of June for the ConFed Cup, otherwise they wont be allowed to play there. Sucks for Bayern, they are losing their imo best starting CB and the 1st defensive midfield sub. Maybe better chances for Stuttgart - but still, I don't see them winning either way.



My question is: Is that just for the Brazilians? Is it a FIFA-rule? Martinez plays for Bayern, it doesn't look like he has to go & Okazaki/Sakai for Stuttgart and they don't have to go either as it seems.


Edit: Funfact - Dante and Gustavo need to be in Brazil 1st of June but it seems ok for Neymar to do a fotoshoot in Barcelona the same day. What the actual fuck. I guess Neymar is far more important than some decent defenders. (This is just a rumor, but if true, then idk why Brazil can't wait for Dante/Gustavo to appear on monday)


It's just the CBF being complete scumbags. Neymar gets special treatment because of sponsors (Nike)/money/media (Guys he can be better than Messi huehuehue). I'd say I can't wait for the Confederation's Cup and to see Brazil ass-whooped, but I'm not looking forward to the chaos it will bring to those who are more interested in work/school than "panem et circenses".

You are wrong. If Dante and Gustavo play on the german cup final, they can't play on the confederations cup. FIFA requires the players to show up 14 days before oficial competitions. If you want to blame it on someone, blame it on FIFA who makes the rules.
Neymar is doing his "photoshoot" after the game. He's already training with the national team. He will fly after the England friendly and then he'll be back on tuesday to train.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
May 30 2013 18:07 GMT
#9035
On May 31 2013 02:53 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 21:50 Asshat wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:35 Da-Muffinman wrote:
Dante and Gustavo wont play in the German Cup final on saturday, because they need to be in Brazil 1st of June for the ConFed Cup, otherwise they wont be allowed to play there. Sucks for Bayern, they are losing their imo best starting CB and the 1st defensive midfield sub. Maybe better chances for Stuttgart - but still, I don't see them winning either way.



My question is: Is that just for the Brazilians? Is it a FIFA-rule? Martinez plays for Bayern, it doesn't look like he has to go & Okazaki/Sakai for Stuttgart and they don't have to go either as it seems.


Edit: Funfact - Dante and Gustavo need to be in Brazil 1st of June but it seems ok for Neymar to do a fotoshoot in Barcelona the same day. What the actual fuck. I guess Neymar is far more important than some decent defenders. (This is just a rumor, but if true, then idk why Brazil can't wait for Dante/Gustavo to appear on monday)


It's just the CBF being complete scumbags. Neymar gets special treatment because of sponsors (Nike)/money/media (Guys he can be better than Messi huehuehue). I'd say I can't wait for the Confederation's Cup and to see Brazil ass-whooped, but I'm not looking forward to the chaos it will bring to those who are more interested in work/school than "panem et circenses".

You are wrong. If Dante and Gustavo play on the german cup final, they can't play on the confederations cup. FIFA requires the players to show up 14 days before oficial competitions. If you want to blame it on someone, blame it on FIFA who makes the rules.
Neymar is doing his "photoshoot" after the game. He's already training with the national team. He will fly after the England friendly and then he'll be back on tuesday to train.


The ones that are to blame is the DFL and the UEFA.

They both made CL final Bundesliga and Pokalfinal that late. It´s a shedule problem.

At least i think it´s a bit questionable by the Brazilian coach and the CBF not beeing flexible enough to say "we don´t care about 2 days of practice for a basicly meaningless tournament, let these guys end their awesome season with another title".
Influ
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany780 Posts
May 30 2013 18:10 GMT
#9036
On May 31 2013 02:53 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 21:50 Asshat wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:35 Da-Muffinman wrote:
Dante and Gustavo wont play in the German Cup final on saturday, because they need to be in Brazil 1st of June for the ConFed Cup, otherwise they wont be allowed to play there. Sucks for Bayern, they are losing their imo best starting CB and the 1st defensive midfield sub. Maybe better chances for Stuttgart - but still, I don't see them winning either way.



My question is: Is that just for the Brazilians? Is it a FIFA-rule? Martinez plays for Bayern, it doesn't look like he has to go & Okazaki/Sakai for Stuttgart and they don't have to go either as it seems.


Edit: Funfact - Dante and Gustavo need to be in Brazil 1st of June but it seems ok for Neymar to do a fotoshoot in Barcelona the same day. What the actual fuck. I guess Neymar is far more important than some decent defenders. (This is just a rumor, but if true, then idk why Brazil can't wait for Dante/Gustavo to appear on monday)


It's just the CBF being complete scumbags. Neymar gets special treatment because of sponsors (Nike)/money/media (Guys he can be better than Messi huehuehue). I'd say I can't wait for the Confederation's Cup and to see Brazil ass-whooped, but I'm not looking forward to the chaos it will bring to those who are more interested in work/school than "panem et circenses".

You are wrong. If Dante and Gustavo play on the german cup final, they can't play on the confederations cup. FIFA requires the players to show up 14 days before oficial competitions. If you want to blame it on someone, blame it on FIFA who makes the rules.
Neymar is doing his "photoshoot" after the game. He's already training with the national team. He will fly after the England friendly and then he'll be back on tuesday to train.


Afaik this is wrong. FIFA compels clubs to make their players available 14 days before the match. This doesn't mean that the player has to show up somewhere only that the club isn't allowed to stand in the way of the player to show up.

FIFA definitively is to blame because they fucked up scheduling but nothing stopped CBF from allowing Dante and Gustavo to come one day later. For me FIFA made a mistake but it's just a deliberate dick move by CBF.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
May 30 2013 18:37 GMT
#9037
For the Brazillian national team this Confederations Cup is not meaningless.

Remember that we, as the hosts of WC, don't have any important games to play since we don't get to play the qualifiers. The team can't be tested only with friendly games and you know why.

Besides, the team is so fucking pitifully weak rightnow that we need everybody to be 100% for the games. Brazil has to build a team for the WC and the time is short, the team needs to learn how to play with each other.

Maybe CBF is afraid Dante could get hurt or something? I'm not sure, but the fact is that the timing is unfortunate.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
May 30 2013 18:53 GMT
#9038
On May 31 2013 03:07 USvBleakill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 02:53 dmnum wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:50 Asshat wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:35 Da-Muffinman wrote:
Dante and Gustavo wont play in the German Cup final on saturday, because they need to be in Brazil 1st of June for the ConFed Cup, otherwise they wont be allowed to play there. Sucks for Bayern, they are losing their imo best starting CB and the 1st defensive midfield sub. Maybe better chances for Stuttgart - but still, I don't see them winning either way.



My question is: Is that just for the Brazilians? Is it a FIFA-rule? Martinez plays for Bayern, it doesn't look like he has to go & Okazaki/Sakai for Stuttgart and they don't have to go either as it seems.


Edit: Funfact - Dante and Gustavo need to be in Brazil 1st of June but it seems ok for Neymar to do a fotoshoot in Barcelona the same day. What the actual fuck. I guess Neymar is far more important than some decent defenders. (This is just a rumor, but if true, then idk why Brazil can't wait for Dante/Gustavo to appear on monday)


It's just the CBF being complete scumbags. Neymar gets special treatment because of sponsors (Nike)/money/media (Guys he can be better than Messi huehuehue). I'd say I can't wait for the Confederation's Cup and to see Brazil ass-whooped, but I'm not looking forward to the chaos it will bring to those who are more interested in work/school than "panem et circenses".

You are wrong. If Dante and Gustavo play on the german cup final, they can't play on the confederations cup. FIFA requires the players to show up 14 days before oficial competitions. If you want to blame it on someone, blame it on FIFA who makes the rules.
Neymar is doing his "photoshoot" after the game. He's already training with the national team. He will fly after the England friendly and then he'll be back on tuesday to train.


The ones that are to blame is the DFL and the UEFA.

They both made CL final Bundesliga and Pokalfinal that late. It´s a shedule problem.

At least i think it´s a bit questionable by the Brazilian coach and the CBF not beeing flexible enough to say "we don´t care about 2 days of practice for a basicly meaningless tournament, let these guys end their awesome season with another title".
If they don't play on the confederations cup they're not going to play on the world cup, because like fabiano said above, we had no qualifiers to test the players and find our right team.
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
May 30 2013 19:46 GMT
#9039
On May 31 2013 02:53 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 21:50 Asshat wrote:
On May 30 2013 20:35 Da-Muffinman wrote:
Dante and Gustavo wont play in the German Cup final on saturday, because they need to be in Brazil 1st of June for the ConFed Cup, otherwise they wont be allowed to play there. Sucks for Bayern, they are losing their imo best starting CB and the 1st defensive midfield sub. Maybe better chances for Stuttgart - but still, I don't see them winning either way.



My question is: Is that just for the Brazilians? Is it a FIFA-rule? Martinez plays for Bayern, it doesn't look like he has to go & Okazaki/Sakai for Stuttgart and they don't have to go either as it seems.


Edit: Funfact - Dante and Gustavo need to be in Brazil 1st of June but it seems ok for Neymar to do a fotoshoot in Barcelona the same day. What the actual fuck. I guess Neymar is far more important than some decent defenders. (This is just a rumor, but if true, then idk why Brazil can't wait for Dante/Gustavo to appear on monday)


It's just the CBF being complete scumbags. Neymar gets special treatment because of sponsors (Nike)/money/media (Guys he can be better than Messi huehuehue). I'd say I can't wait for the Confederation's Cup and to see Brazil ass-whooped, but I'm not looking forward to the chaos it will bring to those who are more interested in work/school than "panem et circenses".

You are wrong. If Dante and Gustavo play on the german cup final, they can't play on the confederations cup. FIFA requires the players to show up 14 days before oficial competitions. If you want to blame it on someone, blame it on FIFA who makes the rules.
Neymar is doing his "photoshoot" after the game. He's already training with the national team. He will fly after the England friendly and then he'll be back on tuesday to train.


That's just a token rule that only exists for cases of dispute such as this. Do you really think that's strictly enforced? Do you really think they'd be banned from playing the Confederation's Cup had they showed up after 23:59 on Sunday? When both sides are reasonable and come to an agreement the player could just as well show up a day before competition starts and nothing would come of it.

This is just the CBF being completely unreasonable and refusing to give an inch, but what else to expect from them, it's the CBF.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
May 30 2013 20:10 GMT
#9040
I know he isn't as big a name as Neymar, but can anyone from Brazil comment on how good Leandro Damiao is? It seems he might be coming to Europe but it's impossible to judge him fairly from a couple youtube videos.
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