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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
August 16 2011 01:48 GMT
#421
I picked up frequent smoking in Iraq, and since I've been back I haven't had a smoke in a few months. I never really felt addicted, and quitting wasn't hard at all despite smoking for a few years. Still, every once in a while in a stressful situation, I really want a cigarette.

I don't really care about my health, I care more about my wallet. Cigarettes are expensive these days. Now I just have to make sure I don't replace cigarettes with alcohol.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
August 16 2011 01:51 GMT
#422
On August 16 2011 10:27 contraSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 10:25 rebuffering wrote:
well its day #10, and all is well. EXCEPT! i get nightmares everytime i go to sleep, and haven't had a decent sleep in over a week, apparently it will go away, but man, waking up sweating like crazy, having the most insane dreams iver ever had. Guess its time to start drinking before bed, hoping i can get some sleep.


One word: pot.


Well thats just it, smoking pot for 7+ years, everyday since i was 14, now ive stopped cold turkey because of chest pains, so i had no choice really. So no, i can't smoke pot to get to bed, assuming thats what you were inferring. If not, then yes, it was because of pot, smoking bongs before bed everynight for years and years, and now, just trying to sleep sober, is hard as fuck. I think my solution will be to have a shot or two of Whiskey before bed, see how it works out.
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
SpaceToaster
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
August 16 2011 01:57 GMT
#423
On August 16 2011 10:51 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 10:27 contraSol wrote:
On August 16 2011 10:25 rebuffering wrote:
well its day #10, and all is well. EXCEPT! i get nightmares everytime i go to sleep, and haven't had a decent sleep in over a week, apparently it will go away, but man, waking up sweating like crazy, having the most insane dreams iver ever had. Guess its time to start drinking before bed, hoping i can get some sleep.


One word: pot.


Well thats just it, smoking pot for 7+ years, everyday since i was 14, now ive stopped cold turkey because of chest pains, so i had no choice really. So no, i can't smoke pot to get to bed, assuming thats what you were inferring. If not, then yes, it was because of pot, smoking bongs before bed everynight for years and years, and now, just trying to sleep sober, is hard as fuck. I think my solution will be to have a shot or two of Whiskey before bed, see how it works out.


That will help with the dreams but you're gonna wake up with cottonmouth and that gets old fast.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
August 16 2011 02:01 GMT
#424
On August 16 2011 10:57 SpaceToaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 10:51 rebuffering wrote:
On August 16 2011 10:27 contraSol wrote:
On August 16 2011 10:25 rebuffering wrote:
well its day #10, and all is well. EXCEPT! i get nightmares everytime i go to sleep, and haven't had a decent sleep in over a week, apparently it will go away, but man, waking up sweating like crazy, having the most insane dreams iver ever had. Guess its time to start drinking before bed, hoping i can get some sleep.


One word: pot.


Well thats just it, smoking pot for 7+ years, everyday since i was 14, now ive stopped cold turkey because of chest pains, so i had no choice really. So no, i can't smoke pot to get to bed, assuming thats what you were inferring. If not, then yes, it was because of pot, smoking bongs before bed everynight for years and years, and now, just trying to sleep sober, is hard as fuck. I think my solution will be to have a shot or two of Whiskey before bed, see how it works out.


That will help with the dreams but you're gonna wake up with cottonmouth and that gets old fast.


Forgive me, as i dont undestand what you mean. So if i drink a shot or 2 before bed, i will wake up with cotten mouth?? and what the hell is cotton mouth. and there has to be a way to get to bed without drugs or alcohol right?? i mean ive always had sleeping issues since i was a child, and pot finally solved that, too bad i over did it, and must resort to special tactics to get to sleep like a normal human.
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SpaceToaster
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
August 16 2011 07:37 GMT
#425
On August 16 2011 11:01 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 10:57 SpaceToaster wrote:
On August 16 2011 10:51 rebuffering wrote:
On August 16 2011 10:27 contraSol wrote:
On August 16 2011 10:25 rebuffering wrote:
well its day #10, and all is well. EXCEPT! i get nightmares everytime i go to sleep, and haven't had a decent sleep in over a week, apparently it will go away, but man, waking up sweating like crazy, having the most insane dreams iver ever had. Guess its time to start drinking before bed, hoping i can get some sleep.


One word: pot.


Well thats just it, smoking pot for 7+ years, everyday since i was 14, now ive stopped cold turkey because of chest pains, so i had no choice really. So no, i can't smoke pot to get to bed, assuming thats what you were inferring. If not, then yes, it was because of pot, smoking bongs before bed everynight for years and years, and now, just trying to sleep sober, is hard as fuck. I think my solution will be to have a shot or two of Whiskey before bed, see how it works out.


That will help with the dreams but you're gonna wake up with cottonmouth and that gets old fast.


Forgive me, as i dont undestand what you mean. So if i drink a shot or 2 before bed, i will wake up with cotten mouth?? and what the hell is cotton mouth. and there has to be a way to get to bed without drugs or alcohol right?? i mean ive always had sleeping issues since i was a child, and pot finally solved that, too bad i over did it, and must resort to special tactics to get to sleep like a normal human.


Oh lol, I'm sorry for not explaining. Its when your mouth is really dry to the point of it being painful to swallow and stuff, like if you put cotton balls in your mouth and they soaked up all the moisture. Cause alcohol dehydrates you, if you do a shot or two before bed (especially if its every night) you'll regularly wake up with your mouth hurting cause its really dehydrated. I guess you can prevent it getting too bad if you drink water with/after your whiskey, but its not something I like dealing with (as someone who's tried it in the past to be able to get to sleep earlier.)
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
August 16 2011 16:50 GMT
#426
On August 11 2011 10:07 tripledoubles wrote:
Half to full pack a day smoker for 7 years,
Me and a few mates decided to quit on New Years
Threw away my last pack (I still remember it,practically full pack of Peter Stuyvesant Blues) on Jan 3rd, after our 4 day bender in Melbourne for NYE.

Haven't looked back since, feel so much better, sense of smell is back, saved a load of money already.

I'm not gonna pretend it isn't hard, and still get occasional cravings, but whenever I feel like I could cave in, I think of the money I saved already this year, that I've used on a new 3d LCD tv as a present for myself. =)

Fuk, I wish I could just be like you. Been smoking for 5 five years now, I want to quit but I don't think I can . A full pack a day for me, and unlike 2-3 years ago, I am actually worry about my heath now.
Terran
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
August 18 2011 01:46 GMT
#427
On August 16 2011 11:01 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 10:57 SpaceToaster wrote:
On August 16 2011 10:51 rebuffering wrote:
On August 16 2011 10:27 contraSol wrote:
On August 16 2011 10:25 rebuffering wrote:
well its day #10, and all is well. EXCEPT! i get nightmares everytime i go to sleep, and haven't had a decent sleep in over a week, apparently it will go away, but man, waking up sweating like crazy, having the most insane dreams iver ever had. Guess its time to start drinking before bed, hoping i can get some sleep.


One word: pot.


Well thats just it, smoking pot for 7+ years, everyday since i was 14, now ive stopped cold turkey because of chest pains, so i had no choice really. So no, i can't smoke pot to get to bed, assuming thats what you were inferring. If not, then yes, it was because of pot, smoking bongs before bed everynight for years and years, and now, just trying to sleep sober, is hard as fuck. I think my solution will be to have a shot or two of Whiskey before bed, see how it works out.


That will help with the dreams but you're gonna wake up with cottonmouth and that gets old fast.


Forgive me, as i dont undestand what you mean. So if i drink a shot or 2 before bed, i will wake up with cotten mouth?? and what the hell is cotton mouth. and there has to be a way to get to bed without drugs or alcohol right?? i mean ive always had sleeping issues since i was a child, and pot finally solved that, too bad i over did it, and must resort to special tactics to get to sleep like a normal human.


What do you do with your days? Do you do any exercise at all? Or 'brain' activities like reading or crosswords for example? Those are things that help with sleep if done at all throughout the day (avoid exercise 2 - 3 hours before bed though) since they tire out your body and mind. I used to have a lot of trouble sleeping and it's getting a lot easier for me now that I'm making a concerted effort to tire myself out with these activities.

It also helps with dreams too, for me anyway. I find I dream less when I'm super tired since it's easier to reach the 'deep sleep' part of the REM cycle without interruption.

The other thing is that those activities - exercise in particular - help to take your mind off the desire to smoke. Exercise can be tough if you've smoked for a long time, but it makes you feel freakin' amazing if you just push yourself to keep going. Especially anything cardiovascular, ie running or biking as opposed to lifting weights or w/e.

Oh, and with the cottonmouth thing that another poster mentioned (if you do decide to employ the help of alcohol at first) just drink a shit load of water immediately after the alcohol, and keep a bottle next to your bed. Just don't drink too much or you'll wake up needing to piss since alcohol is a diuretic.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
September 20 2011 23:28 GMT
#428
Do you guys mind if we move this thread to the new Health and Fitness forum?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=63
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
krAv
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2 Posts
September 20 2011 23:52 GMT
#429

Fuk, I wish I could just be like you. Been smoking for 5 five years now, I want to quit but I don't think I can . A full pack a day for me, and unlike 2-3 years ago, I am actually worry about my heath now.


How old are you ? I've been smoking for about the same time. I actually peaked this year in how frequently I would smoke (about 2-3 packs a sweet if not alot more). I remember going to a big tradeshow in vegas this year where I had to smoke atleast 1-2 cartons in about 4days. Worst feeling I've ever had coming back from Vegas. Today (Sept 20) I am about 3 weeks in of quitting full turkey. My inspiration has been my girlfriend who really begged me and also my parents. I think by having a very open desire to quit you can. I think I will never lite a cig again.
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aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
September 20 2011 23:58 GMT
#430
On September 21 2011 08:28 zatic wrote:
Do you guys mind if we move this thread to the new Health and Fitness forum?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=63

makes a lot of sense if you ask me...
Rabbet
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 00:01:23
September 21 2011 00:01 GMT
#431
I love smoking and am glad I picked it up. Having a bowlful of tobacco at the end of a stressful day really puts a cap on things and lets me unwind. Nothing better than chocolate/creamy/nuttiness that you get from a good pipe of tobacco... and the nicotine helps a lot!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 21 2011 00:01 GMT
#432
If I want convince my brother to stop smoking whats the best things I should bring up? Like everyone knows that it can kill you, but what really hits you and your like "man, i should really quit."
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
September 21 2011 00:05 GMT
#433
On September 21 2011 09:01 Pandain wrote:
If I want convince my brother to stop smoking whats the best things I should bring up? Like everyone knows that it can kill you, but what really hits you and your like "man, i should really quit."

Price.

Talk about how much he spends on average each week/month/year that could be put towards other things

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N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
September 21 2011 02:40 GMT
#434
Might as well let you guys know how I've come about my quitting, it may even help a few people.

As far as history with it goes, been smoking for 3-4 years, the first year I only bummed smokes off of friends and never bought my own packs, but after that long I just didn't want to keep bumming off my friends cause they didn't seem to like it and started buying my own. Thankfully I managed to somehow keep my consumption down to making a pack last anywhere from 3 to 6 days depending how shitty the days.

The main reason for the slower rate of smoking I believe is due to me smoking parts of cigarettes rather than going out to smoke a whole one all at once.

I had what I referred to as "the voice" in my head that was pretty much the manifestation of my addiction. It would convince me why smoking wasnt anything to worry about, why I even SHOULD be smoking, and how much I liked it. And god damn can I be convincing when I want something....

The first time I tried to quit I maybe lasted that day, or a few days tops, and did that "ya I'm totally quitting" thing stupid 18 year olds do. I had decided around when I was 19 that I was going to quit when I was 20, and just not worry about it till then. And then my 20th birthday came and I smoked my "last" cigarette at midnight. I really just ended up smoking WAY to much weed over the next 2 weeks, and decided that school of mines + quitting smokes = too much stress for body to physically handle (school of mines is a very VERY depressing place T.T)

So I broke down, using the excuse of "well I'll just spend even more money on weed if I'm not smoking cigarettes". and continued my smoking spree.

Then my mom had her hip replaced and I needed to take a semester off school to take care of her and keep my self sane by making sure she's ok, since the past 2 years I've gone off to college, the summer I come home is to my mom getting surgery on something. So ya, I had a semester to cool off and take care of the ma. She asked me to quit smoking, and I went 2 weeks cold turkey, and then I took a few drags off a friends smoke in the car, and then I bummed a smoke from my buddy, and then I bought a pack T.T.

I managed to convince myself that I would just quit after I got my wisdom teeth out at the end of august since I wouldn't even be ABLE to smoke, and just keep on smoking. That voice just wouldn't give up. It always had something to say, always some counter argument, or something.

My wisdom teeth came out, and I (like a totally retard >.<) smoked a cigarette that night by just kinda breathing in with the cig kinda in my lips but no sucking or sealing. That lasted 4 days, and on the 4th night something strange happened. The voice died.

I killed it, somehow. I was in bed, and my mouth fucking HURT like no other cause I was determined to not take a pain pill that night, and from some corner in my head something said something along the lines of "you think this is pain? this is a tickle compared to ANY of the shit that smoking does to you, and you think this is pain?" and kept beating my brain with that notion.

The next day I did not hear the voice, I did not want a cigarette, and that was 3 weeks ago.

So far the only time I broke was at a party this weekend, and for my credit I didn't do too bad. I also have a terrible history with alcohol and generally really really hate the shit with a passion, as well as a passionate hate for really stupid drugs that give no enlightenment or anything useful or benificial....things like fucking horse tranqs. I got to this party to find all my friends had done lines of ketamine and planned on drinking heavily. I only smoked 1 to my self and a few drags off a friends. And the next day I didn't even think about cigarettes.


SO as long as I stay away from my friends when they do really stupid shit with drugs or get really drunk I'm golden. And to all you who want to quit, pain may very well be an eye opener to just what you may be getting yourself into.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Highlight
Profile Joined April 2011
United States75 Posts
September 21 2011 03:34 GMT
#435
been trying to quit. but I like it too much! ah why are the best things in life so bad for ya?

I just like the feeling I get and it really helps me get up and about in my day.
Fattah
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Egypt128 Posts
September 27 2011 19:06 GMT
#436
I am on day 58 of quitting. 1450 cigarettes non-smoked.

What I keep telling myself is either way, smoking or not smoking, I am going to feel like shit. You will feel the urge to smoke if you quit, and you are gonna feel tiered and have your throat burning all day. So just think about it like that, maybe it will help you.

When is the cut-off where I can say : "yea I used to smoke but now I don't" ? 6 months?
manloveman
Profile Joined April 2011
424 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 21:02:29
September 28 2011 20:58 GMT
#437
On September 28 2011 04:06 Fattah wrote:
I am on day 58 of quitting. 1450 cigarettes non-smoked.

What I keep telling myself is either way, smoking or not smoking, I am going to feel like shit. You will feel the urge to smoke if you quit, and you are gonna feel tiered and have your throat burning all day. So just think about it like that, maybe it will help you.

When is the cut-off where I can say : "yea I used to smoke but now I don't" ? 6 months?


Depends on how long you have been smoking I would say. But its really subjective. Do you still have daily crawings, then you are still in the act of quitting. Good job though.

Im about 70hours in, and crawings are pretty bad. I drink tea to substitute the action of putting the shit in my mouth, with somthing less shit in my mouth. I piss every 30min now...
It hasnt been as bad as this, other times (tried to quit many times).

This time I feel very motivated though. Im trying to turn my life around. Quit smoking, healthy food, daily cardio and other work outs.

The cardio and healthy food might be why I dont feel the crawings so bad this time around.
leser
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia239 Posts
September 28 2011 23:21 GMT
#438
i've quit smoking for like 3.5 years. started again a few monts ago. gotta quit again soon. i love me a stubbornness challenge.
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RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
September 28 2011 23:22 GMT
#439
Don't have time at work to read through the entire thread, but from what I gather, there is much progress up in this b&%$#. Im 3 months in without a cig. Just moved in with a bartender though, so it has been very tough. The whole smoking while drinking is really tough to overcome.

How I managed to stop was by determining to stop right before I went on a grand adventure. I figure that if I am busy doing awesome things, I wouldnt need to take a break from my droll life to suck ash.
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ffz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States490 Posts
September 29 2011 03:20 GMT
#440
NEJM just pblished a good article on how to treat smokers.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMcp1101512?query=TOC
in brief, set a quit date, review lessons from past quitting experiences, anticipate challenges to the upcoming attempt to quit, reduce or eliminate alcohol use, address other smokers in household

Also effectiveness of chantix vs multitherapy nicatine replacement was looked at. Success rate of chantix was 33% and nicotine replacement was 37%. take tha however u like.
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