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Kyhol
Canada2575 Posts
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Iwbhs
United States195 Posts
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iMAniaC
Norway703 Posts
On June 13 2010 10:30 Skvid wrote: And i would like to add one more thing thats been bugging me quite a bit now: Why the hell are they placed above cash registers, in the perfect spot to see when you are standing in line, its such a fucking tease >_> The only reason i can come up with is that this way they are almost impossible to shoplift. There's another, and probably more important, reason as well: They're placed above the cash register so they'll be in the perfect spot to see when you are standing in line and be such a fucking tease that you'll spend more money in their shop... Good luck to all you quitters! Luckily, I have never smoked, so I won't have to go through it, but I support you! | ||
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G5
United States2921 Posts
On June 14 2010 17:50 iMAniaC wrote: There's another, and probably more important, reason as well: They're placed above the cash register so they'll be in the perfect spot to see when you are standing in line and be such a fucking tease that you'll spend more money in their shop... Good luck to all you quitters! Luckily, I have never smoked, so I won't have to go through it, but I support you! GOOD FOR FUCKING YOU | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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oo_xerox
United States852 Posts
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Baxter
Australia45 Posts
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Reason
United Kingdom2770 Posts
On June 14 2010 18:41 Baxter wrote: i've been smoking for 8 years... It's a horrible feeling.. I've tried to quit many times, longest I went was 3 weeks, and during those 3 weeks, i was coughing up blood/black substances, and a whole manner of other things, when I'd have showers I could taste ash in my mouth as if it was coming out of lungs, worst experience for me wasn't the cold sweats or the shakes, it was the before mentioned events that really makes it hard to quit, atleast for me... Help and new TL user Dude that is seriously fucked up. First thing I would advise is change to roll up cigarettes, if you are not on them already. They take time to make (papers, tobacco, filter, assemble) they don't taste as good and they are better for you. Even if you end up smoking the exact same amount, which I doubt you will, you are better off. What I find is when you are a cigarette smoker, a roll up cigarette just will not hit the spot. Guess what after a few days only a roll up cigarette will do it for you and if you try an original cigarette it might taste nice as a treat but it will not satisfy your craving. Another plus is that this will save you money. I did this for a year or two before I quit smoking and the entire time I was gradually cutting back and cutting back until I was smoking like 3-5 roll up cigarettes a day max for 6 months - a year. When you have smoked a lot more than this you will know this is almost nothing over the course of a day. Hope this helps. I guess the key things for me is changing to roll ups and also cutting back, my logic being "kicking the habit" is the problem and the less you smoke the less severe your habit is, and thus is easier to kick. When I used to smoke 10+ a day going all day without a cigarette was inconceivable... but once I was down to like 3-5 roll ups a day I managed to stop smoking every day without much hassle. Personally for me it was the habit of smoking, not smoking itself I wanted to stop. It cost me a lot of money and I was coughing a lot of stuff up from my lungs. Now I honestly still smoke every 2nd or 3rd day but I feel so much better it's unreal. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
been using it for 10 years now </3 | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
On June 14 2010 19:34 SmoKim wrote: but but, if i quit smoking i have to find a new nickname been using it for 10 years now </3Think about it this way: If you dont stop maybe you wont be even need you nickname?  Also, if you really like the nick maybe you could have it chagned t smokimjacket or similar? ^_^ | ||
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Baxter
Australia45 Posts
On June 14 2010 19:25 Reason wrote: Dude that is seriously fucked up. First thing I would advise is change to roll up cigarettes, if you are not on them already. They take time to make (papers, tobacco, filter, assemble) they don't taste as good and they are better for you. Even if you end up smoking the exact same amount, which I doubt you will, you are better off. What I find is when you are a cigarette smoker, a roll up cigarette just will not hit the spot. Guess what after a few days only a roll up cigarette will do it for you and if you try an original cigarette it might taste nice as a treat but it will not satisfy your craving. Another plus is that this will save you money. I did this for a year or two before I quit smoking and the entire time I was gradually cutting back and cutting back until I was smoking like 3-5 roll up cigarettes a day max for 6 months - a year. When you have smoked a lot more than this you will know this is almost nothing over the course of a day. Hope this helps. I guess the key things for me is changing to roll ups and also cutting back, my logic being "kicking the habit" is the problem and the less you smoke the less severe your habit is, and thus is easier to kick. When I used to smoke 10+ a day going all day without a cigarette was inconceivable... but once I was down to like 3-5 roll ups a day I managed to stop smoking every day without much hassle. Personally for me it was the habit of smoking, not smoking itself I wanted to stop. It cost me a lot of money and I was coughing a lot of stuff up from my lungs. Now I honestly still smoke every 2nd or 3rd day but I feel so much better it's unreal. I've been smoking rollies for 3 years, and they have a much fresher taste and I feel like ever since I got on them i've been smoking much more. I buy a 50 gram every 4 days, I go through that very quickly, as for the rolling the cigarette up doesnt take me long at all, people have always said to me I roll very quickly. All my mates smoke also, which makes it increasingly harder to quit. I've tried nicotine gum /patches, but i've never really used them to quit.. if anything I use em when I know im not gonna be able to smoke for a few hours, like when going to class/work, and when I run out of smokes just before I get paid they just help me get through the few hours i need to wait to buy another pack... It's a vicious cycle.. | ||
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Skvid
Lithuania751 Posts
On June 14 2010 10:29 FortuneSyn wrote: ?? Cigarettes release dopamine in your brain, so you relieve stress. Whether this is "good" or not is a stupid discussion. So the pro's is that you get more dopamine, the con is that you're gonna die and you smell like badass. Fixed. A little update (im the one who bumped this thread remember?): i'm on my 7th day now, and i think that physical addiction has subsided. So hooray to me. This is hopefully the first and last time i quit smoking, the way i did it was quite random. I didn't smoked the "last cig" (which is known to be better than sex). That cig was just another last cig in the pack, i wasn't planning on quitting when i smoked it. Same evening i felt really pissed because the shop got closed before i readied myself up to go and buy a new pack. And i guess when it started. What i did was i put myself in the mindset of quitting, and i told everyone i knew that i was going to do it, i haven't spammed everyone i knew immediately though. I told one person per time, and that time was at the peaks of nicotine urges. Oh and i mentioned it in a few forums as well  First 3 days i avoided the shops because i knew that i was going to buy a pack if i went in. And i wasn't busy so i had the luxury to stay at home most of the time. Note that u only smoked a pack per 2-3 days. I can imagine that quitting for a more frequent smokers is going to be much, much harder, i just hope you find some good tips. I think that by far the most effective way to start off the "quitting phase" is isolating yourself at home for a first few days. And Baxter, if you cough blood and feel ashes in your throat that should be enough to motivate you to cut back on smokes. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On June 14 2010 19:50 Robinsa wrote: Think about it this way: If you dont stop maybe you wont be even need you nickname? Also, if you really like the nick maybe you could have it chagned t smokimjacket or similar? ^_^ LMAO xD On June 13 2010 18:35 ret wrote: 2 months strong now, no real problems after the first week I've been smoking a few joints with tobacco recently though.....not sure if that's something I want to keep doing.... tbh even if i did quit cigarets i would still prefer some tobacco in my joints, else i would end up using way to much to quick  and there is a 9 days Rock Festival inc <3 | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On June 14 2010 18:41 Baxter wrote: i've been smoking for 8 years... It's a horrible feeling.. I've tried to quit many times, longest I went was 3 weeks, and during those 3 weeks, i was coughing up blood/black substances, and a whole manner of other things, when I'd have showers I could taste ash in my mouth as if it was coming out of lungs, worst experience for me wasn't the cold sweats or the shakes, it was the before mentioned events that really makes it hard to quit, atleast for me... Help and new TL user The following is worth reading if you are finding giving up smoking difficult I guess I could do an interesting article for the General section. But I may as well start here, seeing this is a thread for smokers trying to give up. The smokeless cigarette that has been developed in China and is now available to buy over the internet from countries such as England is a marvelous invention. Giving up smoking is tough. We all know it. Sure, some lucky folks can give up and only have mild trouble doing so. Others are fortunate enough never to take up the habit. But for the great majority of people, giving up smoking is one of the hardest things they will do in their lives. The beauty of the smokeless cigarette is you don't have to give up. Sure, give up if you can, it's certainly the best option for your wallet and definitely good for your health. But if you find yourself continually falling back into the habit, if you find the cravings too strong or (heaven forbid) if you actually just enjoy the feeling that smoking gives you then this option should be considered. Smokeless cigarettes are different to patches, gum, lozengers and inhalers. Why? Because all of these other aids to giving up smoking distribute nicotine to the body roughly equally. Ever tried to chain-smoke an entire packet of cigarettes? Researchers found that test subjects who did just this often had a point at which they got nauseous and wanted to stop smoking. The same thing happens if you put on multiple patches at one time. At some point you will feel nauseous, probably before you get the enjoyable high that smoking gives you. So why does this happen and how is the smokeless cigarette different? How indeed is inhaling on the SC (smokeless cig) different to say, an inhaler? When you use a nicotine inhaler the nicotine never makes it far past the tongue. It is ingested through the mucus glands in the mouth/throat. The SC is a battery shaped like the white piece of a cigarette, the yellow-brown filter is the nicotine canister. The battery heats the nicotine and keeps it in a vapour state. This means that when you inhale it, it gets all the way down to the lungs. So? Well being ingested in the lungs means it travels to the brain a lot faster (this has to do with blood being oxygenated at/near the lungs). This is the same as when you smoke a normal cigarette. What this means is you get a lot more nicotine directly in the brain compared to the rest of the body. Hence, you get the hit from the nicotine without the feeling of nausea you'd have if the nicotine was spread equally throughout your body (as it is with patches and gum). Now, the draw-backs? Is it safe? One drawback is the taste. I think that the technology, which is in its infancy could be improved by having a nicer after-taste. I personally didn't enjoy the taste that the SC left in my mouth. Of course, the after-taste of cigarettes isn't exactly delicious either and it's entirely possible that one would get used to the taste in the future (or not find it slightly unpleasant like I did). As regards safety, I was somewhat dubious because the product originated in China. I felt that perhaps there wouldn't be the same rigorous standards Western countries might enforce. However, with a company (perhaps more than one) now operating in England this has assayed my fears. Additionally a biologist I've spoken to seemed rather unconcerned and has made multiple purchases of the product himself. Anyway hope this brief description of this new product piqued some people's interests. I hope no one thinks I own shares in one of these companies, I just find this new technology really exciting. Feel free to do your own research or if you want anything I said clarified or some more info shoot me a PM. Edit: I should also briefly mention the cost. The average filter packet costs approximately 20% what cigarettes cost here in Australia. In fact it might be less again as we recently had a $2 blanket tax placed on all tobacco/cigarette products. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
Weed isn't any better, only thing bad about the cigarettes are 1) addiction 2) cost 3) smell 4) SMELL of your FUCKING MOUTH. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
Try to convince yourself you never smoked. Worked wonders. But I'm a bit of a delusional caracter -- | ||
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samalie
Canada87 Posts
The secret? Not one puff ever. I know it soulds stupid, I know it sounds retarded, but thats the bottom line secret of all. Nicotine is a scary fucker in terms of its addictiveness...lets face it, all of us that have tried to quit have inevitably had one cigarette once, either as a reward for something or because we "just needed one" due to some stress in our lives, and the next thing we knew we were pack a day smokers again. You will go through your own bit of hell...nicotine will flush from your system within about 3 days. Physical withdrawl is a horrible bitch, and will take you 3 weeks or so to go through. You'll go through the grief cycle, you'll throw tantrums, you won't be fun to be around. Drinking around smokers, forget about it for the first month, or you're just asking for relapse. There were times I wished I was almost dead. I felt alone. Nobody understood. I went through phases where I was so angry/miserable/depressed that I thought if this is who I am as a non-smoker, fuck that shit, I'd rather smoke myself to the grave. I withdrew from my wife, my family, my co-workers. But I kept on...and today I don't even really think about it anymore. Sure, every now and then the inner addict starts whispering, but its a pretty feeble whisper, easily ignored. I have a shitpile more money, and I don't smell like I just came out of the ass of a dead rhino. In contrast to the start of this post...quitting smoking was pretty much the hardest thing I've done in my life. But it really is as easy as "just don't smoke". A cigarette isn't magical...it isn't a reward. It wont make your happy times happier. It won't eliminate stress. It won't make the trials and tragedies in our lives any better, or any easier to manage. Its just a pile of dried dead plants wrapped in paper that are burned. Thats it. Step one of it all...and I know this will sound cliche...but you have to accept tobacco/nicotine as an addiction. You are an addict, and really, you will forever and always be an addict to this substance. The only way to beat an addiction is complete abstinence of the substance. If I may recommend a website, check out http://www.whyquit.com as the site has a plethora of information about this particular addiction. I would also strongly recommend some form of support group, either in the real world, or find an online support group. It helps a ton | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On June 15 2010 00:12 samalie wrote: Quitting smoking is "easy". I'm 17 months free after smoking for 19 years. The secret? Not one puff ever. I know it soulds stupid, I know it sounds retarded, but thats the bottom line secret of all. Nicotine is a scary fucker in terms of its addictiveness...lets face it, all of us that have tried to quit have inevitably had one cigarette once, either as a reward for something or because we "just needed one" due to some stress in our lives, and the next thing we knew we were pack a day smokers again. You will go through your own bit of hell...nicotine will flush from your system within about 3 days. Physical withdrawl is a horrible bitch, and will take you 3 weeks or so to go through. You'll go through the grief cycle, you'll throw tantrums, you won't be fun to be around. Drinking around smokers, forget about it for the first month, or you're just asking for relapse. There were times I wished I was almost dead. I felt alone. Nobody understood. I went through phases where I was so angry/miserable/depressed that I thought if this is who I am as a non-smoker, fuck that shit, I'd rather smoke myself to the grave. I withdrew from my wife, my family, my co-workers. But I kept on...and today I don't even really think about it anymore. Sure, every now and then the inner addict starts whispering, but its a pretty feeble whisper, easily ignored. I have a shitpile more money, and I don't smell like I just came out of the ass of a dead rhino. In contrast to the start of this post...quitting smoking was pretty much the hardest thing I've done in my life. But it really is as easy as "just don't smoke". A cigarette isn't magical...it isn't a reward. It wont make your happy times happier. It won't eliminate stress. It won't make the trials and tragedies in our lives any better, or any easier to manage. Its just a pile of dried dead plants wrapped in paper that are burned. Thats it. Step one of it all...and I know this will sound cliche...but you have to accept tobacco/nicotine as an addiction. You are an addict, and really, you will forever and always be an addict to this substance. The only way to beat an addiction is complete abstinence of the substance. If I may recommend a website, check out http://www.whyquit.com as the site has a plethora of information about this particular addiction. I would also strongly recommend some form of support group, either in the real world, or find an online support group. It helps a ton Ok, nice post and I agree with a lot of it. But I have major issues with the bolded parts. Because they read like something from an anti-smoking campaign leaflet. Smoking is a substance wrapped in paper that we burn. Other than that, you're way off. It does help reduce stress for a lot of people and not just because it is satisfying a craving. It does make some people's lives easier to manage - I've heard stories of people at the tops of their professions who recognise their addiction as a problem but are also acutely aware of the benefits they derive from nicotine. "It won't make your happy times happier". Hm... That's like saying alcohol has absolutely no effect on the brain or those areas that give us pleasure. If you're being philosophical, I can agree. Smoking will not make you happy. But no one has ever said it would (except perhaps for some terrible claims made by the pro-tobacco lobby or through advertising). However, smoking does give people pleasure. And it does help with concentration and focus. No one tries to make absurd claims that caffeine has no affect on the body and we shouldn't make the debate about smoking a moral debate when it clearly isn't. It's not "wrong" to smoke, any more than it's wrong to have a large coffee every morning. Anyway as I said, I liked your post and it's sentiments and I can agree with a lot of it. Cold turkey isn't a bad option. But it's not really easy either and many people find it impossible. Your success is fantastic but won't be applicable for everyone. Sadly we're all different. Sometimes it's not just a question of willpower. | ||
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brian
United States9639 Posts
Another thing, you don't need to resolve quitting "forever." Itll only take two or three weeks until you hardly ever think about it again. Plus, I think it's a little delusional to think you'll quit forever, I think the occasional cigarette a few times a year is inevitable, and the reward for having stopped doing it so regularly. -phew i did not smoke for 19 years. I would take his advice instead. | ||
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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
On June 14 2010 23:57 Rev0lution wrote: Weed isn't any better, only thing bad about the cigarettes are 1) addiction 2) cost 3) smell 4) SMELL of your FUCKING MOUTH. You forgot to include the daunting health risks. | ||
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