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Smoodish
Profile Joined April 2011
United States95 Posts
April 29 2012 02:59 GMT
#221
Congrats to scarlett!! Were some nice games. The creep spread was amazing o.o
zantomun
Profile Joined June 2011
United States37 Posts
April 29 2012 03:28 GMT
#222
On April 29 2012 08:50 Belha wrote:
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On April 22 2012 20:35 ][Primarch][ wrote:
I really don't like "girls only" tournaments, I think girls can do just as well as guys in any computer-game. And I think all tourneys should be open for everyone.

User was temp banned for this post.


Why this got a warning/ban??

There is nothing more sexist than "X sex only" activites when in fact sex does not mean a difference at all in that particular activity.

white knights

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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 05:03:54
April 29 2012 05:03 GMT
#223
On April 29 2012 08:50 Belha wrote:
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On April 22 2012 20:35 ][Primarch][ wrote:
I really don't like "girls only" tournaments, I think girls can do just as well as guys in any computer-game. And I think all tourneys should be open for everyone.

User was temp banned for this post.


Why this got a warning/ban??

There is nothing more sexist than "X sex only" activites when in fact sex does not mean a difference at all in that particular activity.

Nationality doesn't mean anything in StarCraft either but I see plenty of ____ country events. I see plenty of Diamond only events. I see an event where you have to have a TL account to register. I see plenty of events that have any arbitrary distinction that classifies players, are you suggesting that a tournament for only Polish players is somehow racist?

As for why the warning happened, it's because every female tournament has a lot of people debating this and not discussing the actual tournament. If anyone wishes to talk about this or talk to me about this, make another thread or PM me. Otherwise we'll be warning and moderating the thread.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Runair
Profile Joined August 2010
United States49 Posts
April 29 2012 14:52 GMT
#224
Didn't watch much of the event but watching a game on Shattered was a turn off. Map isn't on the ladder anymore and hasn't had a place in tournaments in a long time. I'd also remove shakuras and metalopolis but they're not as big of an issue. Maybe cloud kingdom could be added to replace them but I don't think there is anything wrong with having a smaller map pool.
S4KuR4
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France52 Posts
April 29 2012 15:03 GMT
#225
Just wanted to thank Pharside for organizing this awesome tourney and congratulate both Livinkpink and Zander for their awesome casting
♥ Bomber|Mvp|MKP|MMA|Avilo|ForGG ♥ :D Sup sons! Terran power!!!!!!!! ♥♥♥
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
April 29 2012 15:27 GMT
#226
On April 29 2012 05:17 pHaRSiDE wrote:
We did not disqualify her Series as a whole. The mappool was updated on News and Rules on ESL site and this was mappool pasted to all the girls in the channel several times:
Day Break LE - MLG Metalopolis - Shattered Temple - Shakuras Plateau - Entombed Valley - Tal'darim Altar LE - GSL Dual Sight - MLG Antiga Shipyard -Ohana LE

All that needed to happen was a regame of game 3. Not the entire series. She states that Eve wanted to play Metro, but that doesn't matter as players are never allowed to "agree" on different maps to play that are not in the map pool.

She decided she did not want to do game 3 again, and forfeited.

All that needed to happen was game 3 not being played at all. Retroactively making a ruling on a game that already happened is dumb and is the tournament's fault.
pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 17:55:52
April 29 2012 17:49 GMT
#227
On April 30 2012 00:27 awu25 wrote:
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On April 29 2012 05:17 pHaRSiDE wrote:
We did not disqualify her Series as a whole. The mappool was updated on News and Rules on ESL site and this was mappool pasted to all the girls in the channel several times:
Day Break LE - MLG Metalopolis - Shattered Temple - Shakuras Plateau - Entombed Valley - Tal'darim Altar LE - GSL Dual Sight - MLG Antiga Shipyard -Ohana LE

All that needed to happen was a regame of game 3. Not the entire series. She states that Eve wanted to play Metro, but that doesn't matter as players are never allowed to "agree" on different maps to play that are not in the map pool.

She decided she did not want to do game 3 again, and forfeited.

All that needed to happen was game 3 not being played at all. Retroactively making a ruling on a game that already happened is dumb and is the tournament's fault.


Thats interesting, so what do we do about games that are not streamed, and its IMPOSSIBLE for us to know what map they played until they upload the replay afterwards?

The only time limit that exist for administration to react to a mistake is before the player starts their next opponent in brackets. Aurora had no started any games yet with Pandii when we caught the mistake. To claim that we have to just turn a blind eye to it and allow an illegal move is MORE dumb and would be EVEN MORE our fault.

And to be clear, no its not the tournaments fault they played on the wrong map, when the map pool is given to all the players several times. I don't understand why people keep assuming these players don't have/ don't know the map pool.

I guess if two players agree to play zealot frenzy I am suppose to allow that too? Its a map isn't it? Everyone's frustration seems to be stemming from the fact the game was streamed. Streaming does not make it all of a sudden legal to play illegal maps. I don't know how else to say that.

Was it caught later than usual for a streamed match? Yes, but it was not caught later than an unstreamed match and later than what ESL would allow to correct.
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MastaMp3
Profile Joined May 2011
United States56 Posts
April 29 2012 22:32 GMT
#228
The tournment was entertaining!! The only 2 downsides was downtime and lack of mods for the troll filled chat. Unfornately Trolls are everywhere and mods want to watch games to not just babysit immature people.
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Rombur
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium107 Posts
April 29 2012 22:55 GMT
#229
On April 30 2012 00:03 S4KuR4 wrote:
Just wanted to thank Pharside for organizing this awesome tourney and congratulate both Livinkpink and Zander for their awesome casting

I agree. It was a really good tournament and I loved the caster.
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S4KuR4
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France52 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 18:36:28
April 30 2012 18:29 GMT
#230
On April 30 2012 07:32 MastaMp3 wrote:
The tournment was entertaining!! The only 2 downsides was downtime and lack of mods for the troll filled chat. Unfornately Trolls are everywhere and mods want to watch games to not just babysit immature people.


For your info, I modded the chat for more than 6 hours (until 3am for EU time) and it was really difficult.. I almost didn't watch any of the games, didn't talk that much in the chat and my head really hurted for focusing only on the chat... furthermore it's really hard to ban when 10+ people cries and 10+ people trolls and 10+ people tell their lives using chat space for nothing xD.. even if I keep going up the chat to clean it up, it keeps moving up cause people are spamming too fast, sounds stupid but it's hard then to click on the buttons XD Moreover I discovered in the end that I could clear the entire chat, I didn't see any of those options at the begining, maybe it was buggy, so next time I know when it goes super crazy I'll slow mode + clear chat Also, you should ask the admin if you can't help us next time, help is always appreciated
♥ Bomber|Mvp|MKP|MMA|Avilo|ForGG ♥ :D Sup sons! Terran power!!!!!!!! ♥♥♥
MastaMp3
Profile Joined May 2011
United States56 Posts
May 01 2012 01:22 GMT
#231
On May 01 2012 03:29 S4KuR4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 07:32 MastaMp3 wrote:
The tournment was entertaining!! The only 2 downsides was downtime and lack of mods for the troll filled chat. Unfornately Trolls are everywhere and mods want to watch games to not just babysit immature people.


For your info, I modded the chat for more than 6 hours (until 3am for EU time) and it was really difficult.. I almost didn't watch any of the games, didn't talk that much in the chat and my head really hurted for focusing only on the chat... furthermore it's really hard to ban when 10+ people cries and 10+ people trolls and 10+ people tell their lives using chat space for nothing xD.. even if I keep going up the chat to clean it up, it keeps moving up cause people are spamming too fast, sounds stupid but it's hard then to click on the buttons XD Moreover I discovered in the end that I could clear the entire chat, I didn't see any of those options at the begining, maybe it was buggy, so next time I know when it goes super crazy I'll slow mode + clear chat Also, you should ask the admin if you can't help us next time, help is always appreciated


I understand it isnt easy with at least several hundred people chatting & I meant no disrespect to the mods who tried thier best. The first several hours had alot of anti scarlett trolls in the high numbers and kept bringing more trolls in. Didnt know who the admin was or I would have asked to help.
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