EPTFinegamer.com: New coaching site! - Page 5
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hellraiser1110
Croatia70 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On December 19 2011 01:48 darkscream wrote: recognition of coaches is one of the main reasons people pay what they pay "Standard" pricing for someone popular is not the standard for someone nobody knows I have no idea whether these are actually expensive or not, but just saying, most people pay the handsome prices to be coached by someone e-famous. Except people do recognize these people. Obviously. | ||
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9sDreAm
United Kingdom12 Posts
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FatalBlur
United States25 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:16 Larryx wrote: belive me, when u got hired coach just to solve your problems it helps alot than watching pro play even with d9 commentary. It may help a little, but, see most things I've ever heard from a coach is easily found in at least one of day9's dailies. It falls onto you though, to figure out what you're doing wrong, which isn't that hard as long as you watch your replays and have a little bit of insight. Also, as others have mentioned above, but never articulated it correctly, but it is a lot of money for relatively "unknown" players for the most part(outside of EU), yes there are some known players, but, I also feel that many people don't understand that there is a difference between a good player and a good coach, a lesser player could possibly coach better than someone like say...Nestea(just an example) or another big name. So, I guess reviews may help this, but I think many people will flock to the players with better results/ranks versus the ones with better reviews. A possible way to change this could be that there is a required review(a "like or dislike" system) for every student, I don't know what the punishment could be if someone doesn't review it, but that could really show whos the better coach compared to whos the better player. Anyways, I went off on a tangent there, but good luck with the site  | ||
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Meldon
Greece128 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Also, what the hell is with the Book Now button? Is it meant to be viewed in 3d? The site is literally hurting my eyes. Actual physical pain and irritation. I wish you all the best of luck in this endeavor, but keep in mind, it's very important what people see on the first page view. Again, not trying to be a dick, but that design could use some work. As of right now, it doesn't look professional at all, which it should be if you want people's hard earned money. | ||
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Greekarmy
Greece66 Posts
On December 20 2011 04:54 Sadistx wrote: I just went to the site and holy shit, almost had a seizure. Whoever your designer was, he needs to be fired on the spot for picking those colors. Also, what the hell is with the Book Now button? Is it meant to be viewed in 3d? The site is literally hurting my eyes. Actual physical pain and irritation. I wish you all the best of luck in this endeavor, but keep in mind, it's very important what people see on the first page view. Again, not trying to be a dick, but that design could use some work. As of right now, it doesn't look professional at all, which it should be if you want people's hard earned money. Hehe! Yes, the picture in the news and the book now buttons can be viewed in 3d! That's why your eyes are hurting | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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nFbGuardiaN
Netherlands1 Post
Personally, I think it's great! Keep up the good work. | ||
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MaydorK
Venezuela23 Posts
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On December 16 2011 09:32 Butigroove wrote: Welcome to tl! There is a helpful search bar at the top right of the page. If you type say... 'Naugrim' into it and hit Enter, you can find his progamer database page, tournament results, news about him, and more. Instead of say... flaming their coaching prices and claiming ignorance. Great to see such a well put together site. I'm sure more pros will be interested once they've seen what looks like to me is great functionality. Looks like you need some broootoss The fact that their names exist in the TL database means jack-squat. I'm not saying they suck. They're obviously a lot better than me. But $25/hour is an awful lot for someone who's really not that good. | ||
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Barty
France64 Posts
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FreshVegetables
Finland513 Posts
On December 22 2011 15:50 Barty wrote: "Really not that good" Any player between bronze and mid-masters won't have more benefits from having an overpriced coaching hour with an international superstar than with a EU grandmaster player.. The level of the coaches is already very high, high enough for a student to be able to fulfill greatly his coaching hour with sufficient information I have to agree with this post. I don't really understand all the whining. It's not like you are forced to take coaching from anyone, also the booking system is pretty tight on Finegamers.com | ||
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ohokurwrong
Brazil283 Posts
On December 22 2011 03:57 Mr Showtime wrote: The fact that their names exist in the TL database means jack-squat. I'm not saying they suck. They're obviously a lot better than me. But $25/hour is an awful lot for someone who's really not that good. the e-famous coaches are actually not very good coaches by just title alone. not to say the current lineup is good or bad just saying. if you knew anything about anything you would agree the coaching that has been broadcasted by these e-famous ppl has been very very poor basically dont be so fast to write off someone who isnt e-famous because the ability to understand metagame and articulate said gameplay and learning is a skill ANYONE can have. most pros dont change metagame or devise the best strats but take the best strats and do them the best. | ||
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On December 23 2011 05:20 ohokurwrong wrote: the e-famous coaches are actually not very good coaches by just title alone. not to say the current lineup is good or bad just saying. if you knew anything about anything you would agree the coaching that has been broadcasted by these e-famous ppl has been very very poor basically dont be so fast to write off someone who isnt e-famous because the ability to understand metagame and articulate said gameplay and learning is a skill ANYONE can have. most pros dont change metagame or devise the best strats but take the best strats and do them the best. I really should have phrased that better. I'm sure they're great players; while certainly not the best. I don't think the fees are unjustified in the sense that they aren't good enough to charge that much. But rather, most people will not care to spend that money on unknowns, when there are very well known and equally/more talented players that charge similar fees. | ||
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FreshVegetables
Finland513 Posts
I mean just take a look at this http://gosucoaching.com/users/lzgamer, why the hell would anyone pay LzGameR this amount of money? or Machine, InKa, StrifeCro for that matter. Makes many of the unknown players on this site feel affordable as they might even be better players. I jus't dont see how the prizes on gosucoaching are justfied, feels like a rip off. Just my 2 cents | ||
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.vid
Croatia227 Posts
edit: on the other hand, the site is horribly designed, you should really improve on the readability part at least | ||
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Partywave
United States88 Posts
Other than that, good luck with your idea and business | ||
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SpinmovE
Canada119 Posts
On December 21 2011 17:33 nFbGuardiaN wrote: Some people on this forum are so bad mannered. This guy worked his ass off for half a year and he actively helps to improve the Starcraft 2 community. You've just got to be socially awkward to be bitching about the design colors, the fame-o-meter of the coaches and the lack of <insert name> as a coach. Wow, team liquid community... Personally, I think it's great! Keep up the good work. Most people make up their mind about staying on a website within the first five seconds of use. If a website is hard on the eyes, such as this site is, it's highly unlikley they will stay on the page long enough for the information in it to matter. People are simply trying to give the owner advice to improve his business. It isn't being bad mannered at all, in fact it is quite the opposite, people are attempt to give him constructive criticism. The intense reg/green/blue bars at the top and bottom should go, they look incredibly out of place and hurt the eyes. All of the text that has a green/red shadowing is really hard to look at. Very bright, harsh colours are off putting as text, the neon green text in the "Latest Replays" bar is exceptionally hard to read. This stuff is going to turn away a lot of people that open your site from a search engine query, look at it for two second, and decide to skip along to the next link. And I'm not too sure what the background imagine is but it's a little gross. It reminds me of a fly. Again I don't see how that fits the theme of the website at all. The price of the coaches doesn't seem bad to me at all, a lot cheaper then most other coaching website's I've looked at for the majority of your coaches. The content of your website seems to be really good, the presentation on the other hand, is severely lacking. | ||
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ManTrain
Denmark126 Posts
On December 16 2011 09:18 theblueassasin wrote: who are these players? their prices seem kinda steep for nobodies : / . Wtf, Naugrim, Satinii and DeathAngel is nobodies? What world am i in? | ||
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