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On March 19 2011 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 12:00 grats wrote:After reading... On March 19 2011 10:53 iNcontroL wrote:
At the end of the day you are the kind of guy who wins a ladder game and makes a video with that as the crowning achievement. If that is the case no amount of explaining "why" or w/e will change anything... it's perfectly fine dude. If you need to 4 gate me and make a video to prove you can "compete" with top level players to get coaching... all the power to you dude. It seems more of an attack on him. He is showing that he does compete vs top competition and he can win. I see your point though "hey I don't see it as manner to post a video of you 4 gating me" but it sounds more like a low blow to desrow with what you wrote. Just my opinion not trying to start any E-drama. (I am ending it at this also GO DESROW :D!!!) It wasn't an attack at all. It was me simply stating that making a video specifically name dropping me losing is really really lame.. and he did it to "prove he is a top player" and "get coaching" which SHOULD rub others the wrong way but apparently the more disturbing thing to you guys is me being upset about it (lol).
Man, I didn't mention you once in my youtube clip or in my OP. I'm sorry for the turn of events. Looking forward to meeting you in a tournament.
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Desrow is a good guy and i think he would make a great coach to any player out there he goes out of his way to teach you and make sure you learn whats going on in game. And after he will always check up with his players and make sure there doing good. So more props to Desrow for coming up with this and if people are getting Butt Hurt then let them
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Did like anyone at all actually notice that he was playing against incontrol?  I just thought it was a random game against a random. :O
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On March 19 2011 11:48 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 11:21 masterbreti wrote:On March 19 2011 10:53 iNcontroL wrote:
At the end of the day you are the kind of guy who wins a ladder game and makes a video with that as the crowning achievement. If that is the case no amount of explaining "why" or w/e will change anything... it's perfectly fine dude. If you need to 4 gate me and make a video to prove you can "compete" with top level players to get coaching... all the power to you dude. you're one to talk incontrol. you cannon rushed me in eg masters 2, so i wouldn't speak if i were you. also you charge way to much for a player who hasn't really accomplished much in sc1 or sc2. so don't come to a persons thread and try and insult them. its not proper nor does it paint you in a good light. anyways back on topic. desRow fails to metion a lot of his history in the esports world. He was a well known and respected DOTA player, and one that managed a lot of different and sucessful teams. just google desrow and look for yourself. desRow is an awesome player with a passion for helping people. i've had a lto of contact with him through his stream and through my coach being a teammate of his (my coach is Future). desRow is one of those players that come along and are really solid. he does not rely on cheeses to win games and he can play just as well as the top players and even better sometimes. i would have to say for anyone intrested in coaching. desRow would be a great coach. Did I make a video of me celebrating the cannon rush? No? Then what are we talking about? Cause I had 0 problem with him 4 gating.. the problem was with him rubbing it in lol
he played standerd against you and you lost. it wasn't the fact that he was rubbing it in. you should feel honored to be in a desrow video tbh, cause he is a much better player than you, he has had better tournament results and better overall style of play and length of his esports career than you. so i think its more jealousy than anything on your part.
desRow is providing a good service for tl members and sc2 payers in general, much better than yourself who charges over double than he does and he has more sucess than you in sc2. i find that your lack of auctual skill in sc2 (and sc1 for that matter) and you're charging over double than someone who is a better player and a better coach. and you come on here and insult him and rage on him like your some god. well your not. sorry to break it to you. but you're not "fucking incontrol" you're just some random protoss that overprices for lessons not worth a tenth of that.
here is my suggestion to you incontrol. don't rag on a top protoss player, cause he beat you. he is better then you and he is smarter than you. to top it all off. he is a nice person who hasn't done anythign dumb or stupid (unlike yourself).
he's fucking desRow! give the man some respect. desRow is an amazing guy who has a lot to give to people. if i didn't already have an amazing coach who i both admire and respect. i would for sure look at desRow for my coaching needs.
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(I'm curious, if this thread turns to shit can a sponsored threads get closed O_o?)
I've known desrow for a little bit and I know he can come off as an ass or bm at times, I don't know if it's a language barrier or something but he does mean well and doesn't mean to bm 
GL desrow
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Guys, him winning once doesn't make him better. It's one game on the ladder. It doesn't mean anything.
The reason desrow did this is that he's trying to advertise his coaching, and trying to say that he's a good player. He doesn't have many tournament winnings, and isn't entirely well known, so he needed to give us something to show that he's good. Beating Incontrol, a well-known and respected player, is somewhat of an accomplishment for him. Showing the victory makes people think more of him.
Of course, I'm not trying to say that what desrow did is a good thing.
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Someone's overreacting as usual. Take a chill pill Geoff
It could have been anyone in the video but it happened to be you. No big deal.
I think using you to promote his coaching is smart since you're a popular dude. I would take it as a compliment if i were you but whatever.
On topic, Desrow sick coach and cheap
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On March 19 2011 12:16 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 11:48 iNcontroL wrote:On March 19 2011 11:21 masterbreti wrote:On March 19 2011 10:53 iNcontroL wrote:
At the end of the day you are the kind of guy who wins a ladder game and makes a video with that as the crowning achievement. If that is the case no amount of explaining "why" or w/e will change anything... it's perfectly fine dude. If you need to 4 gate me and make a video to prove you can "compete" with top level players to get coaching... all the power to you dude. you're one to talk incontrol. you cannon rushed me in eg masters 2, so i wouldn't speak if i were you. also you charge way to much for a player who hasn't really accomplished much in sc1 or sc2. so don't come to a persons thread and try and insult them. its not proper nor does it paint you in a good light. anyways back on topic. desRow fails to metion a lot of his history in the esports world. He was a well known and respected DOTA player, and one that managed a lot of different and sucessful teams. just google desrow and look for yourself. desRow is an awesome player with a passion for helping people. i've had a lto of contact with him through his stream and through my coach being a teammate of his (my coach is Future). desRow is one of those players that come along and are really solid. he does not rely on cheeses to win games and he can play just as well as the top players and even better sometimes. i would have to say for anyone intrested in coaching. desRow would be a great coach. Did I make a video of me celebrating the cannon rush? No? Then what are we talking about? Cause I had 0 problem with him 4 gating.. the problem was with him rubbing it in lol he played standerd against you and you lost. it wasn't the fact that he was rubbing it in. you should feel honored to be in a desrow video tbh, cause he is a much better player than you, he has had better tournament results and better overall style of play and length of his esports career than you. so i think its more jealousy than anything on your part. desRow is providing a good service for tl members and sc2 payers in general, much better than yourself who charges over double than he does and he has more sucess than you in sc2. i find that your lack of auctual skill in sc2 (and sc1 for that matter) and you're charging over double than someone who is a better player and a better coach. and you come on here and insult him and rage on him like your some god. well your not. sorry to break it to you. but you're not "fucking incontrol" you're just some random protoss that overprices for lessons not worth a tenth of that. here is my suggestion to you incontrol. don't rag on a top protoss player, cause he beat you. he is better then you and he is smarter than you. to top it all off. he is a nice person who hasn't done anythign dumb or stupid (unlike yourself). he's fucking desRow! give the man some respect. desRow is an amazing guy who has a lot to give to people. if i didn't already have an amazing coach who i both admire and respect. i would for sure look at desRow for my coaching needs.
desRow is a good guy. inControl is a good guy. I feel like people have a lot to learn from both of them, and although I don't know all of inControl's tournament results, I think they would compare to desRows. Pretty sure your flaming though, so I don't even know why I'm responding.
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Almost every single person in this thread is overreacting. We're talking about desRow's offer of coaching, not the relative abilities of seemingly half the players who've ever played in a SC2 tournament. Tons of people coach nowadays, so there is no reason to debate prices or skill levels in connection with it. I know it will cause an mini-uproar when I say this, but iNcontroL is right when he says that the market really determines the price. After all, a lot of people buy coaching partly because of how much they love a certain player.
I applaud desRow on his use of a sponsored thread; I honestly can't believe I haven't seen more people using them. Thank you for helping to support the site that we all love! I wish you luck in your coaching endeavors; you seem like a pretty good guy. ^_^
masterbreti, it doesn't matter what you say: iNcontroL is a great player, too. You're needlessly bm'ing just as much as you are accusing him of. Cut it out. You're only causing this thread to further degenerate into something it shouldn't and, in the process, you're disrespecting desRow, too. Let this thread stay on topic, please.
In closing: why cant' weeeeee be friends, why can't weeeeee be friends?
Edit: Newguy basically beat me to it with what I wanted to say. Well said, my friend.
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I hope your not as annoying as you we're in DotA, probably why you didn't include any information about your "amazing" dota career because most of it was you lieing and sucking up to pro players.
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Hey desRow.
Great video man. If I were to ever buy some coaching I'm pretty sure I would hit you up first(and not just b/c you're a fellow canuck). Great rates too!
ps. awfully poor taste of incontrol to come in here like he did but you handled it with class, wtg man!
cant even believe the nasl wants that guy as their frontman....so fucked up.
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On March 19 2011 16:17 YellowZerg wrote:
I hope your not as annoying as you we're in DotA, probably why you didn't include any information about your "amazing" dota career because most of it was you lieing and sucking up to pro players.
I wasn't going to spill the beans on his dota reputation but you did call this pretty evenly.
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays.php?&p1=desrow&format=5on5
This is just one of many sites-He only uploaded games to gosugamers where his team won.ONLY wins. Didn't matter if it was a GG. He pretty much always plays STr-supports, the type of hero that can't be blamed for the loss yet can call out the supports and carries for failing, which was his Calling-card in dota.
As for the comments between incontrol and desrow.... thats no contest Incontrol understands the game way better and doesn't even seem to try half the time he ladders. Theres also a reason Incontrols rates are so good and his students love his lessons.
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On March 19 2011 17:25 FuSioN722 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 16:17 YellowZerg wrote:
I hope your not as annoying as you we're in DotA, probably why you didn't include any information about your "amazing" dota career because most of it was you lieing and sucking up to pro players. I wasn't going to spill the beans on his dota reputation but you did call this pretty evenly. http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays.php?&p1=desrow&format=5on5This is just one of many sites-He only uploaded games to gosugamers where his team won.ONLY wins. Didn't matter if it was a GG. He pretty much always plays STr-supports, the type of hero that can't be blamed for the loss yet can call out the supports and carries for failing, which was his Calling-card in dota. As for the comments between incontrol and desrow.... thats no contest Incontrol understands the game way better and doesn't even seem to try half the time he ladders. Theres also a reason Incontrols rates are so good and his students love his lessons.
Gosugamer asked me to submit replays. I was playing everyday in every in house league, why would I turn them down ? Never said I was a top player in DotA. I didn't mention my DotA background I never won any money for DotA so I never considered myself as a professional DotA player or as a top DotA player. But you and the guy above calling me out is understandable. The mentality of DotA fans is made this way.
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Hey Desrow, just wondering if you could tell us your ladder rating ?? this would help me decide if i want to get tutoring thanks!
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On March 19 2011 17:58 ARze wrote:
Hey Desrow, just wondering if you could tell us your ladder rating ?? this would help me decide if i want to get tutoring thanks!
I've been in the top200 many times. I've been able to compete with the big boys in tournaments. I've never been a ladder fan as I rather practice in custom games.
Here: http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/443514/VTdesRow
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is that the dota legend desrow?
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wow I've watched inc's stream many times and I was always under the impression he was a very nice guy(he always discourages bm in his stream) that was more of the mentality of advancing esports... kind of disappointed, but whatever... pretty rude to disrupt a SPONSORED thread like this... if kiwi says he's a good coach, I'm sure he is... kiwi > inc with no debate, lol...
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Hey Desrow good luck with your coaching, gonna try to tune in to your stream as i havent seen any of it befor. Got a good laugh from the video not sure if it actualy was a good or bad one for me, anyways hope this help you to get more attention and more students!
Hoppeh
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On March 19 2011 11:07 Ack1027 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 09:21 niteReloaded wrote:On March 19 2011 07:15 Ack1027 wrote:
You can buy a thread in the sponsored section? That's news to me.
hahahaha duuuudeee.. "sponsored" On topic, I like the subtle 1up on incontrol by ending the video with "EGincontrol has left the game". ? and I thought buying a Sponsored Thread would be a good way for me to give back to TL
ye I don't get your point?
Sponsored Thread means that you pay up to get your thread some attention.
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Calm down, Incontrol. Have a cookie or something.
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