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Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 13:22:58
March 19 2011 13:21 GMT
#81
That is pretty silly. So desrow won a ladder game and incontrol is raging because he... doesn't want people to know he loses sometimes I guess? Good lord. The immaturity of it all.

Didn't you say during the NASL announcement you wanted to apologize for every stupid stunt you pulled so far and wanted to turn a new leaf? I believe you did. Now kindly man up and be an adult who can be trusted to revitalize eSports.
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
March 19 2011 14:24 GMT
#82
By the way are you the same desrow who was the Kingsurf manager (if you are you'll know what I'm talking about)?
jaczie
Profile Joined July 2010
34 Posts
March 19 2011 14:48 GMT
#83
oh my desrow, hello! haha
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
March 19 2011 15:24 GMT
#84
On March 19 2011 23:24 Weasel- wrote:
By the way are you the same desrow who was the Kingsurf manager (if you are you'll know what I'm talking about)?


Yes But it was so long ago (3 years or so ? )

And Hi jaczie ^^
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
RevRich
Profile Joined February 2011
United States218 Posts
March 19 2011 16:54 GMT
#85
Holy shit its like there's 10 rabid Incontrol haters lurking every topic at any moment. The second he posts something they spring into action, eager to strike up an argument about things totally unrelated to the problem at hand. Incontrol may have worded his disliking of the situation a little poorly, but you kids need to chill the hell out.

I've seen desrow stream a few times and hes definitely very solid. Good prices and a nice guy, GL building a student base desrow!
-Risk-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada164 Posts
March 19 2011 17:05 GMT
#86
Gl drw keep it up boi
Check out my stream at http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/-Risk-
Mikey
Profile Joined January 2011
United States277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 18:45:51
March 19 2011 18:45 GMT
#87
On March 19 2011 17:25 FuSioN722 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 16:17 YellowZerg wrote:
I hope your not as annoying as you we're in DotA, probably why you didn't include any information about your "amazing" dota career because most of it was you lieing and sucking up to pro players.


I wasn't going to spill the beans on his dota reputation but you did call this pretty evenly.

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays.php?&p1=desrow&format=5on5

This is just one of many sites-He only uploaded games to gosugamers where his team won.ONLY wins. Didn't matter if it was a GG. He pretty much always plays STr-supports, the type of hero that can't be blamed for the loss yet can call out the supports and carries for failing, which was his Calling-card in dota.

As for the comments between incontrol and desrow.... thats no contest Incontrol understands the game way better and doesn't even seem to try half the time he ladders. Theres also a reason Incontrols rates are so good and his students love his lessons.


this is so far from the truth it amazes me. I was going to flame you but I don't want to get banned again..

desRow was never a strength support player (there are those in dota?), he always played gimpy support heroes. and if you think those don't require skill or those can't be blamed for competitive losses you are a fool.

he may have not had a superb career playing dota but he helped a lot of players/teams get into tournaments, or get sponsors.

this thread has been so sidetracked from the original purpose it amazes me.
Please watch my DotA2 Stream: www.twitch.tv/Mikey -- Member of Team Quantic's DotA2 division :) !
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
March 19 2011 20:33 GMT
#88
Lol wtf incontrol? theres nothing wrong with his video its not like he called you out, said anything about the fact that "i beat incontrol!" he made a video talking about himself and put a game in the background so make it more interesting.

You've got some anger issues for flaming someone out of the blue and trolling a thread that he paid for to give back to tl, being a representative of our community you should know better by now.

That's coming from me and i dont even like desRow, any reasonable person can see that you're clearly in the wrong.
Mirhi
Profile Joined February 2010
United States389 Posts
March 19 2011 21:24 GMT
#89
On March 20 2011 05:33 bLuR wrote:
Lol wtf incontrol? theres nothing wrong with his video its not like he called you out, said anything about the fact that "i beat incontrol!" he made a video talking about himself and put a game in the background so make it more interesting.

You've got some anger issues for flaming someone out of the blue and trolling a thread that he paid for to give back to tl, being a representative of our community you should know better by now.

That's coming from me and i dont even like desRow, any reasonable person can see that you're clearly in the wrong.


I salute you Jordan!

*cheers* To the mutual domination of ONE and VT

/popcorn
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 19 2011 23:17 GMT
#90
GET SOMEEEEEEEE
FaZe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 23:30:10
March 19 2011 23:28 GMT
#91
On March 20 2011 05:33 bLuR wrote:
Lol wtf incontrol? theres nothing wrong with his video its not like he called you out, said anything about the fact that "i beat incontrol!" he made a video talking about himself and put a game in the background so make it more interesting.

You've got some anger issues for flaming someone out of the blue and trolling a thread that he paid for to give back to tl, being a representative of our community you should know better by now.

That's coming from me and i dont even like desRow, any reasonable person can see that you're clearly in the wrong.


Let's not get too rediculous here. A coach buying a sponsored thread isn't a donation. It's mutually beneficial. I'm sure the extra hours he's obtained by buying the thread have already payed for the thread itself at this point.

Second, you need to look up the definition of "troll", because from your post it looks like you have no idea what it means.

Third, Inc has already said he has no problem with Desrow - his problem is with Desrow showing 30 seconds of a 4gate and implying that he's better than Incontrol. If he wasn't trying to sell extra hours by name-dropping Inc, he would have just shown a bunch of units dying, and left out the "Incontrol has left the game". Would he do that? No. Why? Because showing that he beat him will sell more training hours. Hell, if I was making a training video I'd certainly put my best win at the end. Only problem is, it's your profit at the expense of someone else.

Then you end the post with expressly saying that you don't like the person who sponsored the thread. Classy.

"Any reasonable person can see that you're clearly in the wrong"


That being said, gogo VT! I always know if I tune in to VTGaming there's going to be some kind of awesome high-level content . Keep up the kick ass work, love the new site XD
"Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none."
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
March 20 2011 00:50 GMT
#92
On March 20 2011 01:54 RevRich wrote:
Holy shit its like there's 10 rabid Incontrol haters lurking every topic at any moment. The second he posts something they spring into action, eager to strike up an argument about things totally unrelated to the problem at hand. Incontrol may have worded his disliking of the situation a little poorly, but you kids need to chill the hell out.

I've seen desrow stream a few times and hes definitely very solid. Good prices and a nice guy, GL building a student base desrow!

iNcontroL has pissed off quite a number of people over the years.
Here iNcontroL is overreacting. By putting up a vid of Desrow beating iNc, he is acknowledging iNc as a better player than him. He would hardly put up a vid of him beating a player worse than himself. If it was a vid of anyone else that player wouldn't care.

OT: Looks like a reasonable rate, accent would put me off though, as it required concentration for me to understand.
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
March 20 2011 00:54 GMT
#93
On March 20 2011 08:28 FaZe wrote:
Third, Inc has already said he has no problem with Desrow - his problem is with Desrow showing 30 seconds of a 4gate and implying that he's better than Incontrol.

Actually he's implying iNcontroL is better. As in
"look I beat this great player, see the measure of my skill?"
Not
"hahaha I'm better than iNc, wut a noobz0r"
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
Razuik
Profile Joined October 2010
United States409 Posts
March 20 2011 01:21 GMT
#94
On March 19 2011 22:21 Jinsho wrote:
That is pretty silly. So desrow won a ladder game and incontrol is raging because he... doesn't want people to know he loses sometimes I guess? Good lord. The immaturity of it all.

Didn't you say during the NASL announcement you wanted to apologize for every stupid stunt you pulled so far and wanted to turn a new leaf? I believe you did. Now kindly man up and be an adult who can be trusted to revitalize eSports.


Why do you post without reading? Try to understand both sides and stop guessing what INc meant when he clearly explained what he meant in his post.
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
March 20 2011 01:34 GMT
#95
On March 20 2011 08:28 FaZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 05:33 bLuR wrote:
Lol wtf incontrol? theres nothing wrong with his video its not like he called you out, said anything about the fact that "i beat incontrol!" he made a video talking about himself and put a game in the background so make it more interesting.

You've got some anger issues for flaming someone out of the blue and trolling a thread that he paid for to give back to tl, being a representative of our community you should know better by now.

That's coming from me and i dont even like desRow, any reasonable person can see that you're clearly in the wrong.


Let's not get too rediculous here. A coach buying a sponsored thread isn't a donation. It's mutually beneficial. I'm sure the extra hours he's obtained by buying the thread have already payed for the thread itself at this point.

Second, you need to look up the definition of "troll", because from your post it looks like you have no idea what it means.

Third, Inc has already said he has no problem with Desrow - his problem is with Desrow showing 30 seconds of a 4gate and implying that he's better than Incontrol. If he wasn't trying to sell extra hours by name-dropping Inc, he would have just shown a bunch of units dying, and left out the "Incontrol has left the game". Would he do that? No. Why? Because showing that he beat him will sell more training hours. Hell, if I was making a training video I'd certainly put my best win at the end. Only problem is, it's your profit at the expense of someone else.

Then you end the post with expressly saying that you don't like the person who sponsored the thread. Classy.

"Any reasonable person can see that you're clearly in the wrong"


That being said, gogo VT! I always know if I tune in to VTGaming there's going to be some kind of awesome high-level content . Keep up the kick ass work, love the new site XD


how is he implying that he's better than incontrol? its a fucking ladder game, and he says nothing about the actual game thats playing on the video. incontrol is a big name, gets paid doing what he loves, and has a wonderful girlfriend who is in the miss usa pageant, (?) yet still thinks its appropriate to get angry and "call someone out" who acknowledges incontrol as a strong player for posting a ladder match where he loses? personally i dont understand

i also didnt say donation, im saying he is giving back to tl, by paying for a sponsored thread, same concept as TL's advertisements, how can you argue that?
Spazzer
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada139 Posts
March 20 2011 01:48 GMT
#96
This looks really awesome SpazCraft is looking forward to seeing how VTdesRows sexy Canadian French voice works into coaching.

~Spazzer
www.SpazCraft.com
Murkon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3 Posts
March 20 2011 02:34 GMT
#97
I can vouch for desRow's coaching. I've had a total of three hours of coaching with him.

Our first session was an hour. We went through a couple of replays and he helped point out some big mistakes I was making. After replay review we did some live coaching and I was blown away - I have NEVER played SC2 like that before. It felt like I was playing an entirely new game. He spent some extra time with me (for free) to go over some specific things in that replay too. I was really surprised to get the extra attention. Oh and the VODs he makes for you on j.tv and youtube are nice as well! I wasn't expecting that at all.

I immediately scheduled a two hour session for the next day. The funny thing is that I was doing so well in ladder after the first session I had trouble digging up replays that I felt like needed analyzing. Anyways, I found some and we went over them again. Then we did a lot of live coaching. I was gold at the time (platinum now, diamond soon...thanks desRow!) and beating diamond players. I'd ask him about specific things, and we'd do them. I perfected my builds. My playstyle changed dramatically. Again, it's like I'm playing a new game now.

It was worth every penny. I enjoy SC2 so much more now. I'm a better player and will definitely be scheduling more lessons.

Evidence:
http://www.twitpic.com/44wp3q
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 20 2011 05:56 GMT
#98
On March 20 2011 08:17 iNcontroL wrote:
GET SOMEEEEEEEE

standard ass response =/
posting on liquid sites in current year
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
March 20 2011 06:15 GMT
#99
Opinions aside, desrow paid for this thread and it's not really fair to him for it to get derailed like this. If you're not here in support of his coaching, then you probably don't need to be posting in here =/

Goodluck on the coaching, desrow. Seems like a reasonable price and you certainly have the ability to help a lot of players here improve their understanding of the game. Looks like you have a good review above here, actually
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
March 20 2011 07:01 GMT
#100
On March 20 2011 11:34 Murkon wrote:
I can vouch for desRow's coaching. I've had a total of three hours of coaching with him.

Our first session was an hour. We went through a couple of replays and he helped point out some big mistakes I was making. After replay review we did some live coaching and I was blown away - I have NEVER played SC2 like that before. It felt like I was playing an entirely new game. He spent some extra time with me (for free) to go over some specific things in that replay too. I was really surprised to get the extra attention. Oh and the VODs he makes for you on j.tv and youtube are nice as well! I wasn't expecting that at all.

I immediately scheduled a two hour session for the next day. The funny thing is that I was doing so well in ladder after the first session I had trouble digging up replays that I felt like needed analyzing. Anyways, I found some and we went over them again. Then we did a lot of live coaching. I was gold at the time (platinum now, diamond soon...thanks desRow!) and beating diamond players. I'd ask him about specific things, and we'd do them. I perfected my builds. My playstyle changed dramatically. Again, it's like I'm playing a new game now.

It was worth every penny. I enjoy SC2 so much more now. I'm a better player and will definitely be scheduling more lessons.

Evidence:
http://www.twitpic.com/44wp3q

ROFL wow dude, that screenshot is pretty sweet. Can't argue with results like that!
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