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On September 18 2015 10:33 Eppa! wrote:
It always surprises me that is so little discussion when it comes synthetic fertilizer when organic food is discussed. That's at least half the reason I buy them.
Well, the most common synthetic fertilizers are completely safe for consumption, which is what most people are concerned with. The environmental hazards are much larger, since they require mining / putting more carbon into the atmosphere to produce, and in conventional western agriculture the only way to not have the excess nutrients leak excessively into groundwater / other water sources is to apply them really delicately. Speaking from experience, I can assure you that such delicacy is not the norm.
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On September 18 2015 09:11 Requizen wrote:
Domestic living in a nutshell
Req: Hey I'm going to go grocery shopping, anything you want?
Otter: You know how I shop, just buy things that are on sale and look tasty.
Later
R: Cookies were on sale. So were Pop tarts, chips, and booze.
O: I MEANT THE PRODUCE SECTION YOU DOLT.
Mmm, chocolate chip cookies.
Yes this happens frequently.
I just napped for 9 hours. Oh that's okay its not like I wanted to be up all night or anything.
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On September 18 2015 08:27 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 08:11 Rockafellalp wrote:On September 18 2015 07:11 yamato77 wrote:
Did I see someone claim to be the best CS player here? I did, whats it to yeah 1v1 Deagle only Dust 2
yeah we can play. lol deag only, I guess.
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On September 18 2015 10:47 TheHumanSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 10:33 Eppa! wrote:
It always surprises me that is so little discussion when it comes synthetic fertilizer when organic food is discussed. That's at least half the reason I buy them. Well, the most common synthetic fertilizers are completely safe for consumption, which is what most people are concerned with. The environmental hazards are much larger, since they require mining / putting more carbon into the atmosphere to produce, and in conventional western agriculture the only way to not have the excess nutrients leak excessively into groundwater / other water sources is to apply them really delicately. Speaking from experience, I can assure you that such delicacy is not the norm.
This is what I meant. In Sweden the only reason people buy organic is because of the environmental impact of non-organic.
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What's more interesting than who you are is which question is the hardest for you.
Got Che
Hardest question was:
In social situations are you too kind or too critical of people.
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Metroid Prime was such an amazing game.
I want it to be 15 years ago.
Things are too complicated.
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I ended up with Mao. This is pretty interesting.
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Got Che as well, I liked this test.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
Albert Speer, the minister of armaments in Nazi Germany?
Ehhhh couldn't they have picked someone a bit more famous?
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Lenin. Not really sure how I feel about it. I do not entirely agree.
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I got Vladimir Putin. I don't know what this says about me.
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On September 18 2015 12:59 Scip wrote:
Albert Speer, the minister of armaments in Nazi Germany?
Ehhhh couldn't they have picked someone a bit more famous?
I think Albert Speer is very famous. A lot of what we know on how Hitler's staff worked was due to his memoir.
Also he was more of an architect.
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On September 18 2015 13:43 Frudgey wrote:
I got Vladimir Putin. I don't know what this says about me.
Well it tells me to never go on a plane if you know what plane it is. Geeze Frudgey, how are you close to Putin? You're like super nice.
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so apparently spotify completely changed their band information page thing. its kinda weird now. show places the band is popular which I guess is kinda cool. I don't know, I don't handle change well
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I got Albert Speer too. Yung squad for lyfe.
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Got Osama Bin Laden boys.
I just wrecked all y'all.
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On September 18 2015 14:48 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I got Albert Speer too. Yung squad for lyfe.
Von Ribbentrop here.
#nazibros
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On September 18 2015 10:47 TheHumanSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 10:33 Eppa! wrote:
It always surprises me that is so little discussion when it comes synthetic fertilizer when organic food is discussed. That's at least half the reason I buy them. Well, the most common synthetic fertilizers are completely safe for consumption, which is what most people are concerned with. The environmental hazards are much larger, since they require mining / putting more carbon into the atmosphere to produce, and in conventional western agriculture the only way to not have the excess nutrients leak excessively into groundwater / other water sources is to apply them really delicately. Speaking from experience, I can assure you that such delicacy is not the norm.
Oh yeah, aren't fertilizers the reason why the biggest czech rivers are full of cyanobacteria during the summer? Sucks, but hey, higher yields yo. I'm all for minmaxing.
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yeah no rush or anything I'm fine with bringing up old topics, although my ability to respond will vary greatly over time.
Also che guevara... who... well, as far as results on a "murderous villain" test go, that's pretty good.
On September 18 2015 11:16 Eppa! wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 10:47 TheHumanSensation wrote:On September 18 2015 10:33 Eppa! wrote:
It always surprises me that is so little discussion when it comes synthetic fertilizer when organic food is discussed. That's at least half the reason I buy them. Well, the most common synthetic fertilizers are completely safe for consumption, which is what most people are concerned with. The environmental hazards are much larger, since they require mining / putting more carbon into the atmosphere to produce, and in conventional western agriculture the only way to not have the excess nutrients leak excessively into groundwater / other water sources is to apply them really delicately. Speaking from experience, I can assure you that such delicacy is not the norm. This is what I meant. In Sweden the only reason people buy organic is because of the environmental impact of non-organic.
Interesting! Over here it's relatively rare to hear discussions of agriculture and environmentalism. Although, to be fair, Canadian organic is sketchy at best.
On September 18 2015 15:46 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 10:47 TheHumanSensation wrote:On September 18 2015 10:33 Eppa! wrote:
It always surprises me that is so little discussion when it comes synthetic fertilizer when organic food is discussed. That's at least half the reason I buy them. Well, the most common synthetic fertilizers are completely safe for consumption, which is what most people are concerned with. The environmental hazards are much larger, since they require mining / putting more carbon into the atmosphere to produce, and in conventional western agriculture the only way to not have the excess nutrients leak excessively into groundwater / other water sources is to apply them really delicately. Speaking from experience, I can assure you that such delicacy is not the norm. Oh yeah, aren't fertilizers the reason why the biggest czech rivers are full of cyanobacteria during the summer? Sucks, but hey, higher yields yo. I'm all for minmaxing.
I'm not familiar with agricultural practices or history in Czech Republic specifically, but there's a good chance it's that. It's more an issue of sloppiness than min-maxing. Due to conventional farming practices, many agricultural soils lose qualities that allow them to retain as many nutrients, so if you overload a soil with excessive macronutrients (ex phosphorus) without also boosting it's ability to retain nutrients then the excess will simply be washed away by water.
There's a few ways around the problem. You can only apply exactly the amount of fertilizer needed for the job, but that's kind of hard (accessible GPS tech makes it feasible, though you're not going to get it perfect without fancy machines). You can also boost the nutrient retention / CEC of soils in various ways, such as by reducing the amount of tillage or adding components with negative charges (ex clay). You could try to "aim low" on the amount of fertilizer you apply, but many common high-yield crop varieties simply don't function well without having all of their demands met perfectly. Alternative could be using fertilizers made of decomposing organic matter (ex manure, green manure, compost, charcoal) which release nutrients slower over time while retaining what they haven't released yet. There's also people working on synthetic soils made out of recycled materials, which can in theory hold a variety of qualities adapted for various contexts, which I personally find exceptionally promising.
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