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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 20:55:07
September 17 2015 20:54 GMT
#11321
I think the 2 type of games that could get a broad audience and player base are Pokemon/FF style turn based team game if they add a sort of early-late game part to the game.

That and Wow arena type game (the wc3 mod)
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 17 2015 21:00 GMT
#11322
On September 18 2015 05:32 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 05:21 Dandel Ion wrote:
a man can dream about a literal heroes 3 busting out dat yung turn based strategy genre right?


HoMM will never be a good multiplayer game, though.

its not that bad
the crazy russians are still playing it lol
well some modded version anyway
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 21:16:08
September 17 2015 21:15 GMT
#11323
Mmorpg sandboxes/exploration stuff will be the next big thing imo.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 17 2015 21:17 GMT
#11324
On September 18 2015 06:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 05:32 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 18 2015 05:21 Dandel Ion wrote:
a man can dream about a literal heroes 3 busting out dat yung turn based strategy genre right?


HoMM will never be a good multiplayer game, though.

its not that bad
the crazy russians are still playing it lol
well some modded version anyway


First I am going to put aside the issue of turn-based, for now.

Now, some of the more "classical" HoMM (2, 3, and 5) has the problem that hero progression is RNG. It's actually a very serious problem for PvP since sometimes you simply can't get the skill/spell you wanted and that will screw you over. HoMM6 fixed the RNG problem but introduced a new one that the game is totally unreplayable: you will always get the hero you want every single time, and since there seems to be an "optimal build", there is no replayability in the game anymore.

Anyway, HoMM has some serious problems. While I admire their effort in HoMM6 to shake things up, it failed. The game needs to be reconstructed from the ground up if they want something truly successful instead of riding on past reputations.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 17 2015 21:24 GMT
#11325
On September 18 2015 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
Mmorpg sandboxes/exploration stuff will be the next big thing imo.

Sure, but that's not esports.

Unless there's also some sort of underground Minecraft esports league that I'm missing. Maybe whoever can make the biggest stone penis?
It's your boy Guzma!
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 17 2015 21:32 GMT
#11326
On September 18 2015 06:17 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 06:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On September 18 2015 05:32 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 18 2015 05:21 Dandel Ion wrote:
a man can dream about a literal heroes 3 busting out dat yung turn based strategy genre right?


HoMM will never be a good multiplayer game, though.

its not that bad
the crazy russians are still playing it lol
well some modded version anyway


First I am going to put aside the issue of turn-based, for now.

Now, some of the more "classical" HoMM (2, 3, and 5) has the problem that hero progression is RNG. It's actually a very serious problem for PvP since sometimes you simply can't get the skill/spell you wanted and that will screw you over. HoMM6 fixed the RNG problem but introduced a new one that the game is totally unreplayable: you will always get the hero you want every single time, and since there seems to be an "optimal build", there is no replayability in the game anymore.

Anyway, HoMM has some serious problems. While I admire their effort in HoMM6 to shake things up, it failed. The game needs to be reconstructed from the ground up if they want something truly successful instead of riding on past reputations.

i see an RNG argument and i raise you hearthstone
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 17 2015 21:36 GMT
#11327
On September 18 2015 06:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 06:17 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 18 2015 06:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On September 18 2015 05:32 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 18 2015 05:21 Dandel Ion wrote:
a man can dream about a literal heroes 3 busting out dat yung turn based strategy genre right?


HoMM will never be a good multiplayer game, though.

its not that bad
the crazy russians are still playing it lol
well some modded version anyway


First I am going to put aside the issue of turn-based, for now.

Now, some of the more "classical" HoMM (2, 3, and 5) has the problem that hero progression is RNG. It's actually a very serious problem for PvP since sometimes you simply can't get the skill/spell you wanted and that will screw you over. HoMM6 fixed the RNG problem but introduced a new one that the game is totally unreplayable: you will always get the hero you want every single time, and since there seems to be an "optimal build", there is no replayability in the game anymore.

Anyway, HoMM has some serious problems. While I admire their effort in HoMM6 to shake things up, it failed. The game needs to be reconstructed from the ground up if they want something truly successful instead of riding on past reputations.

i see an RNG argument and i raise you hearthstone


I have never played Hearthstone but my understanding is that each match is short. So if RNG screws you over you just resign and start anew. A PvP HoMM can potentially last hours.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
September 17 2015 21:37 GMT
#11328
On September 18 2015 04:10 Rockafellalp wrote:
Im the best Sc2 player here. And counter strike.

Yeah sure okay whatever you say pal.

Speaking of which, anyone hyped for Legacy of the Void? Comes out on the 10th of November!

Coincidentally, Fallout 4 comes out on the same day.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 17 2015 21:53 GMT
#11329
The LotV cinematic was great.

I'll buy it when WC4 comes out.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 17 2015 21:58 GMT
#11330
On September 18 2015 06:53 Seuss wrote:
The LotV cinematic was great.

I'll buy it when WC4 comes out.

Starcraft IS Warcraft 4

Wake up sheeple!

But seriously, WC4 is probably for never.
It's your boy Guzma!
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
September 17 2015 21:59 GMT
#11331
Orcs in space best game NA never ded game
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 17 2015 22:04 GMT
#11332
On September 18 2015 05:09 Requizen wrote:
I wonder what the next eSport arena will be after Mobas die down.

it's rocket league
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 17 2015 22:05 GMT
#11333
On September 18 2015 06:37 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 04:10 Rockafellalp wrote:
Im the best Sc2 player here. And counter strike.

Yeah sure okay whatever you say pal.

Speaking of which, anyone hyped for Legacy of the Void? Comes out on the 10th of November!

Coincidentally, Fallout 4 comes out on the same day.

I was super excited until I realized all the money I got from cashing in my coins that I thought I deposited I didn't. So now I need to scrape the cash together to be able to afford the collectors edition because fuck if I'm going to have CE WoL, HotS and then a normal LotV.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 17 2015 22:11 GMT
#11334
Did I see someone claim to be the best CS player here?
Writer@WriterYamato
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 17 2015 22:12 GMT
#11335
Since I remember somebody mentioning Sander's policies costing 17T$, this is a copy pasta from the campaign facebook:
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Via Robert Reich - "I've had so many calls about an article appearing earlier this week in the Wall Street Journal -- charging that Bernie Sanders’s proposals would carry a “price tag” of $18 trillion over a 10-year period -- that it's necessary to respond.

The Journal's number is entirely bogus, designed to frighten the public. Please spread the truth:

(1) Bernie’s proposals would cost less than what we’d spend without them. Most of the “cost” the Journal comes up with—$15 trillion—would pay for opening Medicare to everyone. This would be cheaper than relying on our current system of for-profit private health insurers that charge you and me huge administrative costs, advertising, marketing, bloated executive salaries, and high pharmaceutical prices. (Gerald Friedman, an economist at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, estimates a Medicare-for-all system would actually save all of us $10 trillion over 10 years).

(2) The savings from Medicare-for-all would more than cover the costs of the rest of Bernie’s agenda—tuition-free education at public colleges, expanded Social Security benefits, improved infrastructure, and a fund to help cover paid family leave – and still leave us $2 trillion to cut federal deficits for the next ten years.

(3) Many of these other “costs" would also otherwise be paid by individuals and families -- for example, in college tuition and private insurance. So they shouldn't be considered added costs for the country as a whole, and may well save us money.

(4) Finally, Bernie’s proposed spending on education and infrastructure aren’t really “spending” at all, but investments in the nation’s future productivity. If we don’t make them, we’re all poorer.

That Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal would do this giant dump on Bernie, based on misinformation and distortion, confirms Bernie's status as the candidate willing to take on the moneyed interests that the Wall Street Journal represents. Your thoughts?"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 17 2015 22:12 GMT
#11336
On September 18 2015 07:04 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 05:09 Requizen wrote:
I wonder what the next eSport arena will be after Mobas die down.

it's rocket league


On September 18 2015 05:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 05:09 Requizen wrote:
I wonder what the next eSport arena will be after Mobas die down.


Flying car soccer.

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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
September 17 2015 22:13 GMT
#11337
On September 18 2015 07:05 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 06:37 Frudgey wrote:
On September 18 2015 04:10 Rockafellalp wrote:
Im the best Sc2 player here. And counter strike.

Yeah sure okay whatever you say pal.

Speaking of which, anyone hyped for Legacy of the Void? Comes out on the 10th of November!

Coincidentally, Fallout 4 comes out on the same day.

I was super excited until I realized all the money I got from cashing in my coins that I thought I deposited I didn't. So now I need to scrape the cash together to be able to afford the collectors edition because fuck if I'm going to have CE WoL, HotS and then a normal LotV.

Man I am 100% in the same boat. Because I have Collector's Editions of Wings of Liberty and Heart of the Swarm, now I HAVE to get the collector's edition of Legacy of the Void. I mean I HAVE to.

So yeah I can totally relate. I don't think they've actually announced the Collector's Edition for Legacy of the Void though. Sure they've mentioned the Digital Deluxe Edition, but I haven't heard of the Collector's Edition yet.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 22:28:04
September 17 2015 22:17 GMT
#11338
There is a collectors edition you can preorder on Amazon I think which is about the same price as the deluxe one.

I played the beta a bit and it's pretty fun.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 17 2015 22:34 GMT
#11339
On September 18 2015 07:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 07:04 Frolossus wrote:
On September 18 2015 05:09 Requizen wrote:
I wonder what the next eSport arena will be after Mobas die down.

it's rocket league


Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 05:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 18 2015 05:09 Requizen wrote:
I wonder what the next eSport arena will be after Mobas die down.


Flying car soccer.


for real though, it has the exciting team play aspect and high skill cap. but unlike MOBAs it's very easy to watch because it's just cars playing soccer. the learning curve is much lower as well
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
September 17 2015 22:55 GMT
#11340
New graphics card seems to work, and new RAM, hopefully I can now not play on potato settings to get just over 60FPS in FFXIV >.>
Steam: rook492
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