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On September 15 2015 09:04 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 09:01 Ketara wrote:
You said that I was wrong when I said that 23k was a reasonable figure to put on the cost of the housing.
I am arguing that. I did not say you were wrong that it was reasonable, I literally said it seemed fine in my own post on the matter.
do you two know what you're arguing about just wondering
32k/55k seems super low to me (especially in a high cost of living area) but it's enough that the employee can be salaried (and thus exempt from FLSA and therefore not illegal afaik) and it's esports so whatever
I do think calling it a "PR disaster" is melodramatic lol
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In other news.
According to my skype, it is Lastshadows birthday today.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LASTSHADOW 
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On September 15 2015 09:08 Ketara wrote:In other news. According to my skype, it is Lastshadows birthday today. HAPPY BIRTHDAY LASTSHADOW
now there's a coach we could use
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Dude he speaks Korean and has 5 years experience.
Perfect applicant imo.
Funniest part is I bet he wouldn't do it for 32k.
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I'm sure we would have mentioned "honey hazel eyes" in the job posting if it wasn't illegal to discriminate based on eye color
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On September 15 2015 08:52 Eppa! wrote:
The reality of the TL situation is that they either get a Korean to do it or some guy with the passion.
They can get a Korean. I am not sure if they can get a Korean coach or someone who can speak English.
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whats the best program to use for voice chat?
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On September 15 2015 09:42 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
whats the best program to use for voice chat?
Teamspeak I think?
At least that's what pretty much everyone here uses.
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On September 15 2015 09:44 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 09:42 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
whats the best program to use for voice chat? Teamspeak I think? At least that's what pretty much everyone here uses.
k. does TS cost money or anything (if you don't have a lobby already)? I'm just curious.
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You need a server if you don't have one, that's really the reason why most people use TS here (since you can use TL's). Assuming you're going to pay for a server either way, Mumble's probably just as good/better than TS. If you don't want to pay for a server and don't want to use someone else's, then your options for client-only voice chat is limited to stuff like Skype.
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On September 15 2015 09:52 TheYango wrote:
You need a server if you don't have one, that's really the reason why most people use TS here (since you can use TL's). Assuming you're going to pay for a server either way, Mumble's probably just as good/better than TS. If you don't want to pay for a server and don't want to use someone else's, then your options for client-only voice chat is limited to stuff like Skype.
k thanks. I'm just seeing what the options are. anyone have any experience with discord?
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On September 15 2015 08:28 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 08:23 TheHumanSensation wrote:On September 15 2015 08:10 Sufficiency wrote:On September 15 2015 08:09 Ketara wrote:
Or 4. This is all TL can afford to pay them and they're hoping people who want esports dame and are qualified will apply.
That's probably a small list of people. By doing so they also get a lot of negative press from it, since everyone with eyes can see that the requirement is unrealistic. Yes, but as Gahlo pointed out, anyone with experience job hunting will know that this is (for the most part) par for the course rather than exceptionally bad. I actually disagree with this notion. Anyone with at least some experience with hiring knows that you WILL get overqualified applicants. Whether or not they are worth your time is debatable (since many are just using these potential job opportunities as leverage against their current employers), but the job market is large and there are tons of (for example) potential system administrators out there that do have 5 years of experience; it's not as far-stretched as some people think. It is bad when you list unreasonable qualifications *AND* bad compensation. Like I said, if they only plan to pay 32k, why bother publishing that at all? Just list the benefits and ignore the salary part.
Except it isn't about whether or not people with experience will apply. I have seen, consistently, on job offers for an entry level job requiring 3 year+ experience. Entry level jobs should be accessible for people coming out of college with 0 experience in the field.
It's honestly one of the stupidest things that companies do, especially when they'll turn around and complain there aren't enough applicants.
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I can't believe someone used both mumble and ts and still recommends ts.
- Mumble allows you to reserve your push-to-talk button. I use mouse4, whenever I talk on TeamSpeak and browse net I end up going back a page a lot.
- It generally has better interface but that's preference-based I guess.
- It has a much better code for actual voice transmission, meaning you have 10x better quality using same or lower bandwith.
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I'm more used to TS, and I really dont like mumble.
Never used Discord, Vent is fucking terrible, ignore it exists. Dolby Axon was nice, but then it broke a couple months ago and not sure how it is now.
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Isaac preorder on steam is now up! Only 6.66 if you own rebirth apparently.
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On September 15 2015 10:05 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 08:28 Sufficiency wrote:On September 15 2015 08:23 TheHumanSensation wrote:On September 15 2015 08:10 Sufficiency wrote:On September 15 2015 08:09 Ketara wrote:
Or 4. This is all TL can afford to pay them and they're hoping people who want esports dame and are qualified will apply.
That's probably a small list of people. By doing so they also get a lot of negative press from it, since everyone with eyes can see that the requirement is unrealistic. Yes, but as Gahlo pointed out, anyone with experience job hunting will know that this is (for the most part) par for the course rather than exceptionally bad. I actually disagree with this notion. Anyone with at least some experience with hiring knows that you WILL get overqualified applicants. Whether or not they are worth your time is debatable (since many are just using these potential job opportunities as leverage against their current employers), but the job market is large and there are tons of (for example) potential system administrators out there that do have 5 years of experience; it's not as far-stretched as some people think. It is bad when you list unreasonable qualifications *AND* bad compensation. Like I said, if they only plan to pay 32k, why bother publishing that at all? Just list the benefits and ignore the salary part. Except it isn't about whether or not people with experience will apply. I have seen, consistently, on job offers for an entry level job requiring 3 year+ experience. Entry level jobs should be accessible for people coming out of college with 0 experience in the field. It's honestly one of the stupidest things that companies do, especially when they'll turn around and complain there aren't enough applicants.
They are... they expect a good candidate to confident enough to prove why they are as good as having 5 years experience.
And often 5 years experience doesn't necessarily mean direct experience. It could be an technicals sales positon and you could list basically any customer service experience. In my current position, I asserted that my proficiency at BW and other competitive games meant I could easily learn finite element analysis design programs like Compress or Cesar in a bat of an eye; certainly much faster than a 35 year old dude with a similar or more advanced resume.
Basically any transferable skill counts to that area of experience, and to be honest if you can't show you have the skills required for the job why would any business owner give you it?
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On September 15 2015 09:42 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
whats the best program to use for voice chat?
i favor ventrilo. but i think it's pretty much personal preference in terms of performance and stuff once you get away from skype
On September 15 2015 10:20 Crusnik wrote:
I'm more used to TS, and I really dont like mumble.
Never used Discord, Vent is fucking terrible, ignore it exists. Dolby Axon was nice, but then it broke a couple months ago and not sure how it is now.
what problems do you have with vent?
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I am definitely favouring Teamspeak, but a lot of players in MMOs seem to prefer Mumble because they have an overlay for games and you can actually see who is talking.
![[image loading]](http://ryanaustin.net/BF3Mumble/bf3overlay.png)
I think when I was drifting around in different guilds on TERA I have used all of vent, TS, Mumble, and RaidCall.
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