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progess will be shitty and slow if you just practice during your lesson hours
it's actually cheaper if you buy a shitty old keyboard off somebody (lots of ppl have shit like that because they thought they'd teach their kids music or whatever they think is a good idea for about a week) go to a few lessons to learn the basics (that's faster if somebody teaches you) the rest you can do in self-learning easily
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So.
Some time ago I took part in a Fantasy LCS league, with the stipulation that last place finisher must sing a song of winner's choosing, and I ended up being the loser. I must admit that I'm quite ashamed of that, I thought I'm decent at Fantasy and it looked like my opponents either didn't know much about one or both of LCS regions, didn't try hard or put some additional requirements on themselves such as "I won't draft any EU player". Moreover I actually made roster changes entire season whereas most people only ever cared if there were roster changes in actual LCS teams. Yet I finished last, with lowest point count as well iirc. Bummer.
This has nothing to do with Cixah bugging me, I didn't really plan to dodge this long but there was a combination of "there are people in the house", "I don't have time before work and after work I could wake someone up", "I forgot", "Shit I actually don't know timing or lyrics of this song"...
Once you figured out what this post is about you decided to scroll down to the link so here it is: https://clyp.it/nzdjbul3
I don't want to be like "oh my god guys I'm so bad at singing!!!!11"... but yeah pls no bully.
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On September 14 2015 04:49 Holyflare wrote: All right guys I am musically inept because I never learnt an instrument but I super want to get into playing the piano. There are several obstacles to that though:
1. I don't have a piano 2. wutdo?
Basically I have money so I'm not adverse to just buying a piano/keyboard/whatever to practice on but I'm not too sure where to start out? Second hand proper pianos? Keyboards? I don't want to particularly go full blowout buying a proper piano just yet obviously and likely won't for a long time or if necessary but even then I wouldn't know where to start.
That leads me on to the second point, where do I begin? Lessons? Online? I'm pretty good at learning things myself but I'm not sure if just getting lessons would be better in the long run to prevent myself from learning bad habits and whatnot.
If I wasn't dying I'd have more info, but basically where are you musically? Can you read it? Do you know what key signature are? Do you know his they work. From there you can find out what kind of lessons you need to be taking. Private lessons generally ask for a back ground, and get costly but are the easiest way to improve of you go once a week or so and are actually practicing some amount per day.
As for getting an instrument, some music shops allow you to rent to own if you're "studenting it up". Taking a college beginners course ect might help you here, at least this is the case in the states. I'd recommend a keyboard to start tbh. They are much easier to fit inside of an apartment and home and have much less upkeep in terms of maintenance (Keeping a piano in tune and in good shape is actually where the cost for them comes from)
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On September 14 2015 04:56 AlterKot wrote:So. Some time ago I took part in a Fantasy LCS league, with the stipulation that last place finisher must sing a song of winner's choosing, and I ended up being the loser. I must admit that I'm quite ashamed of that, I thought I'm decent at Fantasy and it looked like my opponents either didn't know much about one or both of LCS regions, didn't try hard or put some additional requirements on themselves such as "I won't draft any EU player". Moreover I actually made roster changes entire season whereas most people only ever cared if there were roster changes in actual LCS teams. Yet I finished last, with lowest point count as well iirc. Bummer. This has nothing to do with Cixah bugging me, I didn't really plan to dodge this long but there was a combination of "there are people in the house", "I don't have time before work and after work I could wake someone up", "I forgot", "Shit I actually don't know timing or lyrics of this song"... Once you figured out what this post is about you decided to scroll down to the link so here it is: https://clyp.it/nzdjbul3I don't want to be like "oh my god guys I'm so bad at singing!!!!11"... but yeah pls no bully.
this might be the best thing I've ever heard
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On September 14 2015 04:56 AlterKot wrote:So. Some time ago I took part in a Fantasy LCS league, with the stipulation that last place finisher must sing a song of winner's choosing, and I ended up being the loser. I must admit that I'm quite ashamed of that, I thought I'm decent at Fantasy and it looked like my opponents either didn't know much about one or both of LCS regions, didn't try hard or put some additional requirements on themselves such as "I won't draft any EU player". Moreover I actually made roster changes entire season whereas most people only ever cared if there were roster changes in actual LCS teams. Yet I finished last, with lowest point count as well iirc. Bummer. This has nothing to do with Cixah bugging me, I didn't really plan to dodge this long but there was a combination of "there are people in the house", "I don't have time before work and after work I could wake someone up", "I forgot", "Shit I actually don't know timing or lyrics of this song"... Once you figured out what this post is about you decided to scroll down to the link so here it is: https://clyp.it/nzdjbul3I don't want to be like "oh my god guys I'm so bad at singing!!!!11"... but yeah pls no bully.
Its cool bro, no hassle just wondering. 
Edit: oh you actually did it. 10/10 good Job
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On September 14 2015 04:56 Dandel Ion wrote: progess will be shitty and slow if you just practice during your lesson hours
it's actually cheaper if you buy a shitty old keyboard off somebody (lots of ppl have shit like that because they thought they'd teach their kids music or whatever they think is a good idea for about a week) go to a few lessons to learn the basics (that's faster if somebody teaches you) the rest you can do in self-learning easily
I didn't mean progress wise but more to make sure that it's something he enjoys and wants to do after he's started doing it. Going to a few lessons before sinking capital into equipment sounds like a good idea to me.
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All right guys I am musically inept because I never learnt an instrument

Yeah, will probably just grab a secondhand keyboard and do a few lessons so I can learn all about notes and crap. I did do music "lessons" as a class at school but that was like 10+ years ago so I remember 0 of it and I basically just did nothing in those lessons anyway.
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hf you should start a band with neko i think thats the best way to see great progress
if you can handle his love that is
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oh my god alterkot that's amazing
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Alterkot that's fucking amazing. 10/10
1:45 is amazing
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On September 14 2015 04:56 AlterKot wrote:So. Some time ago I took part in a Fantasy LCS league, with the stipulation that last place finisher must sing a song of winner's choosing, and I ended up being the loser. I must admit that I'm quite ashamed of that, I thought I'm decent at Fantasy and it looked like my opponents either didn't know much about one or both of LCS regions, didn't try hard or put some additional requirements on themselves such as "I won't draft any EU player". Moreover I actually made roster changes entire season whereas most people only ever cared if there were roster changes in actual LCS teams. Yet I finished last, with lowest point count as well iirc. Bummer. This has nothing to do with Cixah bugging me, I didn't really plan to dodge this long but there was a combination of "there are people in the house", "I don't have time before work and after work I could wake someone up", "I forgot", "Shit I actually don't know timing or lyrics of this song"... Once you figured out what this post is about you decided to scroll down to the link so here it is: https://clyp.it/nzdjbul3I don't want to be like "oh my god guys I'm so bad at singing!!!!11"... but yeah pls no bully. This is even better than I was hoping. Makes up for not having a webcam.
Also holyflare pay ME money and I'll teach you a far better instrument.
It's the saxophone Holyflare.
You know you want it.
I'm still listening AlterKot this is so great lmfao
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Your voice is all quiet~ I'd say I didn't imagine it like that but I never imagined it so that doesn't help.
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I was scared if I sang louder than neighbours would hear it and be annoyed/baffled.
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On September 14 2015 05:05 GhandiEAGLE wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 04:56 AlterKot wrote:So. Some time ago I took part in a Fantasy LCS league, with the stipulation that last place finisher must sing a song of winner's choosing, and I ended up being the loser. I must admit that I'm quite ashamed of that, I thought I'm decent at Fantasy and it looked like my opponents either didn't know much about one or both of LCS regions, didn't try hard or put some additional requirements on themselves such as "I won't draft any EU player". Moreover I actually made roster changes entire season whereas most people only ever cared if there were roster changes in actual LCS teams. Yet I finished last, with lowest point count as well iirc. Bummer. This has nothing to do with Cixah bugging me, I didn't really plan to dodge this long but there was a combination of "there are people in the house", "I don't have time before work and after work I could wake someone up", "I forgot", "Shit I actually don't know timing or lyrics of this song"... Once you figured out what this post is about you decided to scroll down to the link so here it is: https://clyp.it/nzdjbul3I don't want to be like "oh my god guys I'm so bad at singing!!!!11"... but yeah pls no bully. This is even better than I was hoping. Makes up for not having a webcam. Also holyflare pay ME money and I'll teach you a far better instrument. It's the saxophone Holyflare. You know you want it. I'm still listening AlterKot this is so great lmfao
god no I really dislike the saxophone
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On September 14 2015 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote: hf you should start a band with neko i think thats the best way to see great progress
if you can handle his love that is
LOL this is why you're #1 + Show Spoiler +this is why borked is #0 On September 14 2015 03:15 brokenwatch wrote: mark my words guys your all faggots
User was temp banned for this post.
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On September 14 2015 04:59 Holyflare wrote:  Yeah, will probably just grab a secondhand keyboard and do a few lessons so I can learn all about notes and crap. I did do music "lessons" as a class at school but that was like 10+ years ago so I remember 0 of it and I basically just did nothing in those lessons anyway. Apparently actual pianos are super overrated, a good quality digital piano is objectively better audio quality these days, unless you're willing to dump literally thousands on a grand piano AND get it tuned monthly.
As for keyboards as long as it's full size i guess it would be ok practice, but if you start to take it seriously you'd want to upgrade to a decent quality one pretty quickly. It's a bit of a catch 22 in that if you buy a super cheap one the keys won't feel nice and it'll sound shit so you won't have fun, but if you buy an expensive one, then you won't want to upgrade to an even more expensive one when you need to :p
Also something to do with key resistance makes a difference when playing or something.
In terms of lessons I've heard it's worth getting a good, in person teacher, at least for a couple of sessions to see how it feels. Apparently there are a bunch of mechanical things like exact finger positioning which are really important to learn early on in order to get the correct habits down.
I'd say the best bet if you just want to get going would be to find a decent teacher nearby, and just shoot them an email asking what they'd recommend in terms of keyboards, and if you could have a lesson or two on one of their keyboards to see how it fits for you.
source: know a few pianists, and my uncle spent a month researching pianos for my niece once, and loves to talk about it.
On September 14 2015 05:07 AlterKot wrote: I was scared if I sang louder than neighbours would hear it and be annoyed/baffled.
The fact you sang quietly made it so much better, you actually had to follow the tune and sing the words
Normally when people who don't sing have to sing, they just shout to avoid actually having to sing anything :p
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Just get a Steinway, I have a spare one for 40k if you wanna buy.
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Wow Alterkot, that was amazing. Funny, went to karaoke a few nights back, and a bunch of drunk girls celebrating their friend's 21st was singing this (obviously not as good as you though)
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