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On September 11 2015 01:58 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:41 Alaric wrote:
How do you raise your attack, etc. stats though? By leveling up enough in the right classes? I mostly remember HP being affected by equipment so you actually get most tankiness from loot (and being a friggin' monk with low faith).
Is the faith/bravery affected (permanentely) by other things than debuffs? I know nothing of the sort but your post's wording seems to imply it's the case. Basically yes, with the added catch that there's a trap in the game that lets you lose levels in classes, so what you do is you intentionally trigger the trap to level down in classes with bad growths after you've learned their abilities, then gain levels in classes with good growths. It's tedious and unnecessary and actually much more effort than it's worth for actually beating the game. It's main purpose is for the novelty of having a statistically optimized character with 999/99s in everything
Hm... you're level capped to 99 with your character's level being the sum of all of its class levels? I don't really remember that, I wasn't that high level anyway, just enough to unlock all classes on at least one character and do all the side quests.
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So THIS is why we had the April Fool's with Pokemon early this year.
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On September 11 2015 02:07 Numy wrote:
Nintendo are masters of making devices that no one wants or needs in an effort to get people not playing their game. Wii U controller so good.
I still laugh about when they said you can continue your play session on the controller if someone else came home to take over the TV. Seriously wtf Nintendo.
That's a huge reason I love the Wii U. Not that it's an issue for me now that I live alone (or any time I've owned a Wii U), but growing up, sharing the TV with siblings/parents when I wanted to play games was torture. The Wii U Gamepad is genius in design and execution.
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Level cap is 99, yes.
The game doesn't track individual class levels. You have your current character level, which is independent of individual classes. When you level up, you gain stats according to the class you are currently in, and when you level down, you lose stats according to the class you are currently in. So what this means is that a level 20 Ninja who switches to Bard, then de-levels to 1 will lose less stats than he gained leveling from 1-20 as Ninja, because a Bard would have gained less stats in 20 levels than a Ninja does. He can then re-level 20 levels as Ninja, and be higher stats than when he was a level 20 Ninja the first time. Repeat until stats are maxed.
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On September 10 2015 22:21 Numy wrote:I picked Azir, they went into a choke, I hit them all and then they all died.  Why you ask for details dammit. I think this may be my first ever quadra on league. I'm more of a safe player that slowly wins and doesn't do dumb stuff than a player that goes off and 1v5s. edit: Nope I got one back in 2013! On pantheon mid it seems. What a beast that guy used to be.
I've never gotten an official penta, only got a triple and double as Swain back in S2. RIP me.
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On September 11 2015 02:22 Sunaj wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2015 22:21 Numy wrote:I picked Azir, they went into a choke, I hit them all and then they all died. Why you ask for details dammit. I think this may be my first ever quadra on league. I'm more of a safe player that slowly wins and doesn't do dumb stuff than a player that goes off and 1v5s. edit: Nope I got one back in 2013! On pantheon mid it seems. What a beast that guy used to be. I've never gotten an official penta, only got a triple and double as Swain back in S2. RIP me.
The first few are super satisfying. After that they don't feel as good. I've got like 10 or so. First one ever is my favorite. Release weekend, AP Mid lane kog. 5 rs, 5 kills. Ezpz. After that I have like 4 with prerework kat and like 2 or 3 with cait and ez (1 as ap, 2 as ad)
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On September 11 2015 02:07 Numy wrote:
Nintendo are masters of making devices that no one wants or needs in an effort to get people not playing their game. Wii U controller so good.
I still laugh about when they said you can continue your play session on the controller if someone else came home to take over the TV. Seriously wtf Nintendo.
I've actually found that feature super useful when my friend brings his wiiu over.
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On September 11 2015 02:12 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 01:58 TheYango wrote:On September 11 2015 01:41 Alaric wrote:
How do you raise your attack, etc. stats though? By leveling up enough in the right classes? I mostly remember HP being affected by equipment so you actually get most tankiness from loot (and being a friggin' monk with low faith).
Is the faith/bravery affected (permanentely) by other things than debuffs? I know nothing of the sort but your post's wording seems to imply it's the case. Basically yes, with the added catch that there's a trap in the game that lets you lose levels in classes, so what you do is you intentionally trigger the trap to level down in classes with bad growths after you've learned their abilities, then gain levels in classes with good growths. It's tedious and unnecessary and actually much more effort than it's worth for actually beating the game. It's main purpose is for the novelty of having a statistically optimized character with 999/99s in everything Hm... you're level capped to 99 with your character's level being the sum of all of its class levels? I don't really remember that, I wasn't that high level anyway, just enough to unlock all classes on at least one character and do all the side quests.
Level is independent of class, but the stats you gain/lose when you level up/down are not. Every class has different growth rates for different stats, and you can exploit that to maximize everything. It works like so:
Class A gains/loses 2 of every stat when leveling. Class B gains/loses 1 of every stat when leveling. So if you level down to 1 as Class A, then level back up to 99 as Class B, you'll gain 98 to all stats. Rinse and repeat. Actual classes aren't quite so convenient when it comes to growth rates but that's the general idea.
As TheYango pointed out this sort of stat manipulation is completely unnecessary to beating the game. Simply hitting level 99 is already above and beyond what's required to beat the game, but in the same way that some people like to keep playing pokemon past the Elite Four, I really liked mucking around in FFT well past the point where I could have just ended the game.
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On September 11 2015 01:20 sung_moon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 00:24 Numy wrote:ESL is the biggest joke in gaming and has been for the last 10 years. I can't even. Are any of you guys paying attention to this CSGO event in Dubai? Here's some guys from the venue : https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/3kdpg8/esl_esea_dubai_is_a_joke_stage_picture_inside/ They got guys casting the event from home because it's too hot for the players to play during the day and none of the people that bought could go watch the games live because the venue isn't open yet. God ESL must fucking vanish. They've been shit for so long it's amazing. and players even said there were cockroaches in the cabinets.
remember when naniwa delayed the game complaining about ants in the booth. ahhh the good old days
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On September 11 2015 02:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 02:07 Numy wrote:
Nintendo are masters of making devices that no one wants or needs in an effort to get people not playing their game. Wii U controller so good.
I still laugh about when they said you can continue your play session on the controller if someone else came home to take over the TV. Seriously wtf Nintendo. That's a huge reason I love the Wii U. Not that it's an issue for me now that I live alone (or any time I've owned a Wii U), but growing up, sharing the TV with siblings/parents when I wanted to play games was torture. The Wii U Gamepad is genius in design and execution.
If I'm spending that kind of money I'm not going to go play on a glorified gameboy. I'd just buy a good handheld device then. Don't know why you call it genius.
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On September 11 2015 00:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I just started a new playthrough of Borderlands 2 with my brother (who never finished the story) and brother in law (who hasn't ever played a BL game). The Psycho class is fun as shit.
You're going to have to explain that one, trying to melee in Borderlands has always been an endless source of frustration for me. Except for like, as Zero chaining his infinite skill off of low level mobs lol.
On September 11 2015 02:26 Cixah wrote:
The first few are super satisfying. After that they don't feel as good. I've got like 10 or so. First one ever is my favorite. Release weekend, AP Mid lane kog. 5 rs, 5 kills. Ezpz. After that I have like 4 with prerework kat and like 2 or 3 with cait and ez (1 as ap, 2 as ad)
Yeah, the biggest reason I know I don't get them is I kinda suck at anything that isn't tanky, cuz I don't have the confidence to actually be the damage guy.
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On September 11 2015 02:40 Numy wrote:
If I'm spending that kind of money I'm not going to go play on a glorified gameboy. I'd just buy a good handheld device then. Don't know why you call it genius.
Well seeing as a Wii U costs $300 while the 3DS ranges from $150-200 depending on which model you're getting, that actually seems like the right price point for your "glorified gameboy", seeing as the 3DS is THE handheld to own right now.
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It's crazy how cheap US electronics are. Looking at prices here they like 50-100 dollars more.
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On September 11 2015 02:40 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 02:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 11 2015 02:07 Numy wrote:
Nintendo are masters of making devices that no one wants or needs in an effort to get people not playing their game. Wii U controller so good.
I still laugh about when they said you can continue your play session on the controller if someone else came home to take over the TV. Seriously wtf Nintendo. That's a huge reason I love the Wii U. Not that it's an issue for me now that I live alone (or any time I've owned a Wii U), but growing up, sharing the TV with siblings/parents when I wanted to play games was torture. The Wii U Gamepad is genius in design and execution. If I'm spending that kind of money I'm not going to go play on a glorified gameboy. I'd just buy a good handheld device then. Don't know why you call it genius.
Well, first off, it's the cheapest of the next gen systems...
The Wii U Gamepad is a huge enhancement to console gaming. For Windwaker, if you're playing on TV screen, the Gamepad screen is used for inventory, map, etc (and if you've played Windwaker, being able to look at your map without pausing while you're sailing is invaluable). I haven't played tons of Wii U games, but the Gamepad makes things pretty interactive and seamless. Moreover, despite how wide the Gamepad is, it's a very comfortable controller to hold.
Additionally, it's not that it replaces a handheld system in any fashion. Playing in your living room and need to take a shit? Flip the screen control to your Gamepad and take it into the other room! On a roadtrip and want to play some games? Plug your Wii U into the car's outlet and play Wii U games on the Gamepad entirely.
I have no intentions of buying an XBone or PS4 - outside of exclusive titles, they offer me nothing I can't get through PC gaming. Wii U offers a unique experience and a well built console concept.
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On September 11 2015 02:40 Sunaj wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2015 00:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I just started a new playthrough of Borderlands 2 with my brother (who never finished the story) and brother in law (who hasn't ever played a BL game). The Psycho class is fun as shit. You're going to have to explain that one, trying to melee in Borderlands has always been an endless source of frustration for me. Except for like, as Zero chaining his infinite skill off of low level mobs lol.
Oh, I die a LOT. We're still pretty low level, but I'm building into the tree that does more melee damage and has more benefits as I get injured, so being up close in the danger is totally fine. Soon, I'll have the talent that turns my "Fight For Your Life" into "Light The Fuse", which turns me into a suicide Psycho, and if I kill someone with the explosion, I revive.
edit - sry for double post
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The only problem with the Wii U is that there just aren't *enough* good titles for it, even though the good ones are really good.
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I'm adamant that the biggest issue with the Wii U is how poorly nintendo has pushed their own franchises on it. As of yet, still no Metroid, Zelda, or Starfox. They're also missing out on a MASSIVE opportunity with Pokemon Snap 2.
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On September 11 2015 02:53 Gahlo wrote:
I'm adamant that the biggest issue with the Wii U is how poorly nintendo has pushed their own franchises on it. As of yet, still no Metroid, Zelda, or Starfox. They're also missing out on a MASSIVE opportunity with Pokemon Snap 2.
I think a bigger issue is that the marketing was just straight poor. I know early on, the perception was that Wii U was just an addition for the original Wii.
I love every title I have for the system, even though I don't have a ton. Super Mario 3D World, Windwaker remake, Splatoon, Pikmin 3, MarioKart 8 - all great titles, and there are more that I would probably jump on if I played the system more.
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Personally I hate anything removing me from the game. That's why I dislike that idea that Oculus is "the future of VR" as well I don't want to fucking move my body when I'm playing a game(it's not even VR, stop calling it that!). Wii U is the same thing where I don't want to remove my focus from the screen just to get to another piece of info I need.
Titles are Wii always suck for here at least. Only good ones we get are the first party ones and if you want any 3rd party you going to have to import from EU most likely which is expensive. Then you get the luck of the draw on if 3rd party even gets translated into language you can play ;(
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On September 11 2015 02:52 TheYango wrote:
The only problem with the Wii U is that there just aren't *enough* good titles for it, even though the good ones are really good.
It's arguably worth it for Mario Maker alone haha.
Also Bayonetta 2 and the eventual new Zelda game. Plus Nintendo's other first party stuff. It's a solid amount of games at this point.
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