Anyway, I think Fire vs Water may be a bit of a toss-up in certain generations, but Grass types feel like a trap to me because, well, it's not a good type at all. After all, it does have 5 weaknesses defensively and 7 offensively. Grass type has three (what I like to call) "counters" in the sense that Grass types are both weak against the type and Grass types attack are not effective against the type - Fire, Flying, and Bug. Guess what? The game is full of Flying and Bug type pokemons.

Frudgey

Canada3367 Posts

September 09 2015 00:42 GMT

#10068

I've also just felt that Electric types are just the superior Grass types anyways. I also just find them to be more interesting in general.

I mean, Electabuzz is one of my favorites.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

September 09 2015 00:47 GMT

#10069

Electric is ineffective against Water+Ground though, while Grass is 4x effective.

Also, for gen 1, Squirtle/Charmander's main game effectiveness compared to Bulbasaur has basically nothing to do with typing. The most important thing is actually that Squirtle and Charmander can learn Mega Punch while Bulbasaur can't. Being able to use an 80 power move with decent-ish accuracy extremely early on in the game outweighs any differences in stats/type effectiveness.

Cixah

United States11285 Posts

September 09 2015 00:47 GMT

#10070

Flygon is the superior pokemon.

Parnage

United States7414 Posts

September 09 2015 00:48 GMT

#10071

Ya'll are undervaluing the work that a lot of grass types do. Just because it has more weaknesses doesn't mean it's worse. I mean you can talk all day about Parasect's six weaknesses but at the end of the day I love that little guy for double battle supports. Also you know, the powerhouse that is Breloom.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

September 09 2015 00:50 GMT

#10072

On September 09 2015 09:48 Parnage wrote:
Ya'll are undervaluing the work that a lot of grass types do. Just because it has more weaknesses doesn't mean it's worse. I mean you can talk all day about Parasect's six weaknesses but at the end of the day I love that little guy for double battle supports. Also you know, the powerhouse that is Breloom.

To be fair, a large part of the value of both Pokemon is that they learn Spore, which is the most bullshit move in all of Pokemon.

Parnage

United States7414 Posts

September 09 2015 00:52 GMT

#10073

On September 09 2015 09:50 TheYango wrote:

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To be fair, a large part of the value of both Pokemon is that they learn Spore, which is the most bullshit move in all of Pokemon.

I'd argue that having access to spore is a strength of grass types. I mean, is anyone going to call a mon like amoonguss weak? or Ferrothorn? Whimsicott?

Frudgey

Canada3367 Posts

September 09 2015 00:52 GMT

#10074

On September 09 2015 09:47 TheYango wrote:
Electric is ineffective against Water+Ground though, while Grass is 4x effective.

Also, for gen 1, Squirtle/Charmander's main game effectiveness compared to Bulbasaur has basically nothing to do with typing. The most important thing is actually that Squirtle and Charmander can learn Mega Punch while Bulbasaur can't. Being able to use an 80 power move with decent-ish accuracy extremely early on in the game outweighs any differences in stats/type effectiveness.

Are Water+Ground types even used in competitive play? I haven't kept up with competitive Pokemon for quite some time so I couldn't say.

But yes you raise a good point.

Yangers what is your favorite typing as far as Pokemon go?

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

September 09 2015 00:55 GMT

#10075

my favourite pokemon is metapod

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

September 09 2015 00:56 GMT

#10076

On September 09 2015 09:52 Parnage wrote:
I'd argue that having access to spore is a strength of grass types. I mean, is anyone going to call a mon like amoonguss weak? or Ferrothorn? Whimsicott?

Right, but on the flip side not all grass types have access to Spore, and not all grass moves are as bullshit as Spore is.

On September 09 2015 09:52 Frudgey wrote:
Are Water+Ground types even used in competitive play? I haven't kept up with competitive Pokemon for quite some time so I couldn't say.

I haven't either, but they were relevant enough for a time that if we're talking in generalities across generations, it's relevant given how strong Water+Ground was in the past.

On September 09 2015 09:52 Frudgey wrote:
Yangers what is your favorite typing as far as Pokemon go?

Psychic

JonGalt

Pootie too good!4331 Posts

September 09 2015 00:58 GMT

#10077

On September 09 2015 09:56 TheYango wrote:

Show nested quote +

I haven't either, but they were relevant enough for a time that if we're talking in generalities across generations, it's relevant given how strong Water+Ground was in the past.

Show nested quote +

Psychic

Electabuzz and Alakazam is all I need in my life.

phyvo

United States5635 Posts

September 09 2015 01:15 GMT

#10078

On September 09 2015 06:58 Numy wrote:
Please. Look at this adorable thing + Show Spoiler +

. How can you say no?

On September 09 2015 07:16 Parnage wrote:
Numy is the only person who understands.

Asmo is now a rival. Someone must think of the plant types, and it will be me.

I'm with you guys. My first pokemon game was blue, and I picked Bulbasaur because he was the cutest. I was also partial to Chickorita and Snivy. In my opinion most water type starters have the disadvantage of evolving into uncool uglies. Greninja is the only exception to that but unfortunately evolves from the least cute water starter. Charmander is the best fire starter overall. I will admit that Charizard looks cooler than Venusaur though.

I only recently began to appreciate Squirtle and it's entirely because of Project M where I don't have to evolve him.

On September 09 2015 09:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
my favourite pokemon is metapod

Oh God, the memories of those metapods that I just couldn't kill fast enough...