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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I think they're actually serious and I'm kinda loling. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 12 2016 07:52 Ketara wrote: My family is talking about moving out of the country. I think they're actually serious and I'm kinda loling. Anyone actually thinking of doing can get on out of the country as far as I'm concerned. I didn't want Trump but holy shit the smarmy liberal left is fucking annoying right now. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On November 12 2016 08:16 Numy wrote: Part of the issue may just be how you guys group everyone under some collective "label" then marginalize whole groups based on the label given to them. Just a thought. Labeling has become an increasingly problematic thing over the past few years. People feel such a need to be a part of a group that they just segregate themselves more. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 12 2016 07:52 Ketara wrote: My family is talking about moving out of the country. I think they're actually serious and I'm kinda loling. They could just move to California. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
Or you could move somewhere I have no investment in whatsoever! :D | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 12 2016 08:03 Requizen wrote: I didn't want Trump but holy shit the smarmy liberal left is fucking annoying right now. I don't think it's entirely unreasonable for minorities to be afraid for their well-being living in the US atm. Not necessarily because of Trump, but because of some of the hate crimes that are surging due to legitimate assholes who feel empowered by him being elected. I'm not willing to dismiss everyone who wants to leave the country right now as being "smarmy liberal left". Though if you're a cisgender white male talking about leaving the country, yeah you're probably overdramatizing a bit. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On November 12 2016 08:03 Requizen wrote: Anyone actually thinking of doing can get on out of the country as far as I'm concerned. I didn't want Trump but holy shit the smarmy liberal left is fucking annoying right now. P R E A C H I'm actually happy I'm not the only one thinking this. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
What I'm worried about is the things that will happen as a result of him being the image of and role model for the country. I'm worried about police violence against minorities escalating. I'm worried about sexual violence escalating. I'm worried that my reputation as what is basically an immigrant in a foreign country will be damaged because of his reputation, which is something I've actually already experienced to a small degree in the past two days. More specifically, I'm worried that violence against American Muslims will escalate regardless of whether or not any anti-Muslim policies are enacted, and that will result in retaliatory action against me as an American living in a Muslim country. My family travels a lot already, a few years ago my mom was spending more time outside the country than in the country. They have several different places they could realistically leave to, and I'm not surprised to see them going on about it. There were similar rantings when Bush was re-elected. But I actually think they might be serious this time. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 12 2016 08:30 TheYango wrote: I don't think it's entirely unreasonable for minorities to be afraid for their well-being living in the US atm. Not necessarily because of Trump, but because of some of the hate crimes that are surging due to legitimate assholes who feel empowered by him being elected. I'm not willing to dismiss everyone who wants to leave the country right now as being "smarmy liberal left". Though if you're a cisgender white male talking about leaving the country, yeah you're probably overdramatizing a bit. I'm not saying he's good or that his followers are decent folks but it's just annoying having the internet constantly post things like he's Hitler and Satan's love baby that's going to set the country on fire for kicks. I'll fight for equal rights and against bigotry but the dude isn't even in office and you'd think that the Horsemen were riding out as we speak. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 12 2016 08:30 TheYango wrote: I don't think it's entirely unreasonable for minorities to be afraid for their well-being living in the US atm. Not necessarily because of Trump, but because of some of the hate crimes that are surging due to legitimate assholes who feel empowered by him being elected. I'm not willing to dismiss everyone who wants to leave the country right now as being "smarmy liberal left". Though if you're a cisgender white male talking about leaving the country, yeah you're probably overdramatizing a bit. Again. Seriously why do people feel the need to do this? What if a person just doesn't like the direction things appear to be heading and has the fortunes to think about where they want to be in their future? Why is it so crazy for a poor little cisgender white male to think about that? People are really pissing me off lately. They act like just because a group of people are more subjugated to oppression that no one else has the right to be upset. Fuck that. That's how you get bullshit continually happening. On November 12 2016 08:42 Requizen wrote: I'm not saying he's good or that his followers are decent folks but it's just annoying having the internet constantly post things like he's Hitler and Satan's love baby that's going to set the country on fire for kicks. I'll fight for equal rights and against bigotry but the dude isn't even in office and you'd think that the Horsemen were riding out as we speak. Is this not very much like the Brexit situation? Where the actual outcome may not be as awful as possible but the reasons for that outcome happening is the actual issue? Trump may or may not be terrible but the reasons for his election and the justifications in his campaigns are the unsettling part. The man could be the most perfect president ever. That won't change how he got there though. The reasons behind the support. The impact of that may just be felt long after Trump is gone. People just need to start having actual fucking conversations about issues instead of just dismissing any consenting opinion as "that dumb group" | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
You'd think we were in the middle of a civil war or something the kind of shit that's being spammed right now. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On November 12 2016 08:42 Requizen wrote: I'm not saying he's good or that his followers are decent folks but it's just annoying having the internet constantly post things like he's Hitler and Satan's love baby that's going to set the country on fire for kicks. I'll fight for equal rights and against bigotry but the dude isn't even in office and you'd think that the Horsemen were riding out as we speak. Well, there are a lot more hate crimes that have happened in the last few days, and the perpetrators reference Trump directly in many of them. I think there are a lot of people in minority populations that are afraid of getting hurt. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 12 2016 08:43 Numy wrote: Again. Seriously why do people feel the need to do this? What if a person just doesn't like the direction things appear to be heading and has the fortunes to think about where they want to be in their future? Why is it so crazy for a poor little cisgender white male to think about that? People are really pissing me off lately. They act like just because a group of people are more subjugated to oppression that no one else has the right to be upset. Fuck that. That's how you get bullshit continually happening. Labeling and dismissal is basically how Trump got elected. Decent folk who were tired of being called racist inbreds by liberal media and pundits wanted to throw a brick in their window, and that brick was Orange and yuge. This whole thing has been a shitshow. I would have been unhappy with any candidate offered save Bernie (as stereotypical as that sounds). | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 12 2016 08:47 Requizen wrote: Labeling and dismissal is basically how Trump got elected. Decent folk who were tired of being called racist inbreds by liberal media and pundits wanted to throw a brick in their window, and that brick was Orange and yuge. This whole thing has been a shitshow. I would have been unhappy with any candidate offered save Bernie (as stereotypical as that sounds). Sure and now people are just doing the reverse. How is that going to solve anything? As for candidates. As a person from the outside I don't get it. This election never seemed to be about candidates to me. It was two opposite "emotions". Trump is rage, anger and just wanting it all to go away. Clinton is maintaining the status quo, accepting no movement. Does it really matter if it's Mr Orange or Mrs Robot? Bernies campaign basically mimicked Trumps anyway. That's a reason so many of the Bernie "supporters" claimed to voting Trump out of spite. It was never rational in the first place. They didn't care for his policies, they cared that he could facilitate their anger. I guess it may have been better if Bernie got the final honors of doing that instead of Trump but well the country didn't want that. It's like how we have rioting over education the ANC promised just after having an election where ANC won majority. If you dislike them so much why do you keep voting for them? >< People only give a shit every X years then wonder why nothing ever changes in the system. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Chicago's basically the liberal stronghold of the Midwest so it's less of a problem here (and I'm pretty damn thankful I moved back here of all places, in retrospect), but you don't have to go that far to find yourself somewhere where that would be the case. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 12 2016 08:58 TheYango wrote: Req this shouldn't be that hard for you to get, your "otter" isn't white either. Would you feel comfortable living somewhere where you have to worry about her well-being any time she's outside of the house without you? Chicago's basically the liberal stronghold of the Midwest, but you don't have to go that far to find yourself somewhere where that would be the case. Of course not and we've already talked about the repricussions of this election on her. Her parents and family members are immigrants. I'm not saying it isn't scary as fuck. If we lived anywhere other than Chicago I'd buy her a gun last year. I feel blessed to live where I do, where we can be an interracial couple without hatred. Doesn't mean I can't be fucking annoyed at the people living in Chicago and LA acting like Trump is going to come to their house and personally shoot them. I'm complicated like that. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 12 2016 08:44 Ketara wrote: Also I agree with Req in that my facebook feed has suddenly turned into a hot turd. You'd think we were in the middle of a civil war or something the kind of shit that's being spammed right now. This is a broader problem with Facebook being a piece of shit build-your-own-echo-chamber nowadays when it comes to political ideas. A lot of stupid shit gets started because everyone can choose not to listen to anyone who disagrees with them. I'm sure everyone else also has those friends that are all saying shit like "if you voted Trump, I'm unfriending you" too. If you choose to never engage with anyone who disagrees with you, the problems are never going to get fixed. The discourse is going to be ugly, but that's how it has to be if we're ever going to move forward. | ||
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