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On November 09 2016 07:30 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2016 07:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
you can simulate healthcare by saving up a certain amount with each paycheck for emergencies
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yeah nobody does that shit, which is why healthcare is a+
forces people to do the smart thing But you can't because $50-100 a paycheck isn't going to cover something catastrophic even remotely... My family doesn't do cell phone insurance because we all contribute to a fund and that works because worst case probable scenario is two people breaking a $700 phone at the same time. I really doubt you come out even iCanada.
sure it is, eventually.
and it's not like healthcare magics money up out of nowhere. it's slightly more efficient than full private probably, and all the annoying shit is pushed onto ppl who do that kinda thing by choice so that's fine. but that's minor.
you usually get back only slightly less than you put in - ofc there are potatos you gotta support but we all know that.
the joy of large amounts - individuals only get skimmed by an unnoticably tiny sum, totals up for a ton of money collectively.
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On November 09 2016 08:04 iCanada wrote:
Per Stats Canada; $34,154 CAD.
We'll the average Canadian must be incredibly rich then because I'm not paying anything near that and I thought I was making above the median income.
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On November 09 2016 08:22 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2016 07:30 mordek wrote:On November 09 2016 07:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
you can simulate healthcare by saving up a certain amount with each paycheck for emergencies
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yeah nobody does that shit, which is why healthcare is a+
forces people to do the smart thing But you can't because $50-100 a paycheck isn't going to cover something catastrophic even remotely... My family doesn't do cell phone insurance because we all contribute to a fund and that works because worst case probable scenario is two people breaking a $700 phone at the same time. I really doubt you come out even iCanada. sure it is, eventually. and it's not like healthcare magics money up out of nowhere. it's slightly more efficient than full private probably, and all the annoying shit is pushed onto ppl who do that kinda thing by choice so that's fine. but that's minor. you usually get back only slightly less than you put in - ofc there are potatos you gotta support but we all know that. the joy of large amounts - individuals only get skimmed by an unnoticably tiny sum, totals up for a ton of money collectively.
some people need significantly more medical care than others.
this system would strongly favor healthy people
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mfw your country hasn't revolted yet
rip bernie...
Is there actually a general sense of americans wanting proper healthcare/education etc, and it just being a sense of impossibleness that stops it, or are people happy with the way things are currently?
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On November 09 2016 04:43 Sunaj wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 15:19 zer0das wrote:
I united the Holy Roman Empire in Europa Universalis IV just in time for the election. \o/ Haven't done that since the Art of War expansion.
I did luck box into about the earliest Hungarian personal union you can possibly get to help me prevent northern Italy from leaving the empire, which helped a lot. Also Spain got a Habsburg on the throne (staying friendly with me) and with England helped smack France and keep them contained.
Gotta wake up at like 6 AM tomorrow to vote early. Zzz. You know, I don't think I've ever really played as Austria (or England/France) in EU4. Spent too much time playing EU3 so basically only play minors lol.
I hate the Holy Roman Empire mechanics. Mostly because the AI is a little pansy and sits out religious wars so you have to sit and wait like 20-30 years as the emperor for them to accept your glorious Catholic empire. I feel like Paradox adds a bunch of mechanics then never programs the AI to use them appropriately. Every time I play the HRE I quit after the first 100 years or so. So uniting it is rare for me. I don't know how people have the patience to do this crap for world conquests.
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On November 09 2016 09:56 killerdog wrote:
mfw your country hasn't revolted yet
rip bernie...
Is there actually a general sense of americans wanting proper healthcare/education etc, and it just being a sense of impossibleness that stops it, or are people happy with the way things are currently?
It's a sense of futility. No one is coming up with anything better and anything better that is brought up is shot down before it can take its first steps. America runs on stagnation, we love the status quo more than than the DC comic writers. Even Obamacare, which wasn't perfect but at least was something, got fought against tooth and nail and still got stripped down to the point where it works even worse than it was going to in the beginning.
The American government is 1500 miles of red tape and nothing short of a revolution will change that at this point. And enough people are not annoyed enough to participate in a revolution because most shit doesn't affect us on a personal level and we're pretty happy overall.
That's my interpretation of it, anyway.
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On November 09 2016 09:56 killerdog wrote:
Is there actually a general sense of americans wanting proper healthcare/education etc, and it just being a sense of impossibleness that stops it, or are people happy with the way things are currently?
There's also an aversion that many people have to things that would be genuinely beneficial to them out of a manufactured fear of socialism.
There are a lot of people who genuinely recognize how shit things are for them, but are also taught to react negatively toward progressive government programs that would help them. So instead they would rather make other peoples' lives worse.
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Or its because people don't vote in anything other than presidential election (which also has a poor turn out.)
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Anyone wanna play HotS to work towards that Genji skin?
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On November 09 2016 11:41 Requizen wrote:
Anyone wanna play HotS to work towards that Genji skin?
I want to, but I'm going to bed. Maybe some other night 
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On November 09 2016 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote:We'll the average Canadian must be incredibly rich then because I'm not paying anything near that and I thought I was making above the median income.
2 things:
1) Includes PST / GST, likely a good chunk of that is PST if you live anywhere aside from Alberta / Up North.
2) You're married w/ kid(s?), puts a big dent on your T4.
Anyway, the point is we pay for our healthcare. Same as everyone else really, just we don't get screwed in edge cases. Just when we need something and the wait list is 4594035843 people long.
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well fuck i havent been this depressed since my best friend passed away.
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Man, I'm going to lean on you fuckers for comfort for a long time.
And I'm almost certainly going to be fine.
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This is one of those thing that will change as the old die. Just gotta survive for 4 years.
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Biggest loss is that LT had a 1 year ban bet in the US Politics Thread.
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This is something that wouldn't happen if voting was easier on the young. Or if he Democratic Party dint rig their primary for an unelectable candidate out of nepotism.
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On November 09 2016 14:10 TheYango wrote:
Biggest loss is that LT had a 1 year ban bet in the US Politics Thread.
Nah, as I said I'm going to need the year to prep a move if it does happen.
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Also asmo, think I'll prob need to cancel on going to Boston for doto Majors, I'll get back to you in a few weeks, but may no longer be able to afford to go with a budget.
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On November 09 2016 14:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2016 14:10 TheYango wrote:
Biggest loss is that LT had a 1 year ban bet in the US Politics Thread. Nah, as I said I'm going to need the year to prep a move if it does happen.
I didn't mean for you, I meant for the rest of us. 
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On November 09 2016 11:41 Requizen wrote:
Anyone wanna play HotS to work towards that Genji skin?
Yeah I will at some point, sure
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