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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 06 2016 18:04 GMT
#29321
On October 07 2016 02:43 Scip wrote:
What, free sub? You can sub one person for free on twitch? Or am I misunderstanding things?

once per month
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 06 2016 18:10 GMT
#29322
I don't have Amazon Prime so no free sub here. I've also used my free Amazon Prime last year for the holidays. Oh well.

I like that adding Blademaster to Heroes of the Storm was probably the easiest job the game designers could have. "How are we going to add Blademaster?" "Let's just literally copy the abilities except turn the passive to an active. Lunch?"
It's your boy Guzma!
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-06 18:22:48
October 06 2016 18:22 GMT
#29323
On October 07 2016 01:19 Requizen wrote:
LLL help, I need something easy to watch in the background that I can put on at my desk. There is literally nothing worth watching in my Youtube subscriptions and I need a bit of noise.

Roll20 has their own rpg campaigns on their YouTube. Stuff from apocalypse world to DnD to burning wheel. Highly recommend. Adam Koebel doe a the GMing
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 06 2016 19:08 GMT
#29324
I've been watching harmonquest.

Shits hilarious.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
October 06 2016 19:30 GMT
#29325
On October 07 2016 03:10 Requizen wrote:
I don't have Amazon Prime so no free sub here. I've also used my free Amazon Prime last year for the holidays. Oh well.

I like that adding Blademaster to Heroes of the Storm was probably the easiest job the game designers could have. "How are we going to add Blademaster?" "Let's just literally copy the abilities except turn the passive to an active. Lunch?"


It's not going to feel the same though without him being perpetually invisible and one-shotting your workers until your economy bleeds to death.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 06 2016 20:00 GMT
#29326
On October 07 2016 04:08 Ketara wrote:
I've been watching harmonquest.

Shits hilarious.

Yeah it is. Would recommend.
I think there was maybe 1 or 2 episodes I didn't like. There was one guy who tryharded the hell out of the game in one episode and it just made it suck as compared to everyone else just stumbling around.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 06 2016 20:37 GMT
#29327
It is astonishing how quick incompetent people are to blame software for their problems.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 06 2016 20:42 GMT
#29328
On October 07 2016 05:37 iCanada wrote:
It is astonishing how quick incompetent people are to blame software for their problems.


Gotta love a good PEBCAK or ID-107 error
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
October 06 2016 22:18 GMT
#29329
On October 06 2016 22:02 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 11:06 Gahlo wrote:
On October 06 2016 05:29 Eppa! wrote:
o/

Regina Spektor is doing an AMA on reddit... and she keeps writing... like she is talking before... thinking... through her response...

Stream of consciousness writing?

Does your consciousness have dots?

If I'm visiting my dad and he has a box of them around, yes.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 07 2016 00:13 GMT
#29330
On October 07 2016 05:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 05:37 iCanada wrote:
It is astonishing how quick incompetent people are to blame software for their problems.


Gotta love a good PEBCAK or ID-107 error

I didn't know about the ID-107 one, where does it come from?

Draft write-up!
Today's hook: how I died to "Start your engines" (on my 2nd draft, didn't take long).
+ Show Spoiler [draft] +
10 people, I hate it esp. in the beginning of a format since nothing wheels and you just don't see as many cards (and they're weaker).

Archetype break-down:
4x RW
1x BW
1x BG
1x UGr
1x UWr
1x Temur (no, not a splash; don't ask. He ended up 1st, didn't see what he had)
1x UWg (number 2, prob due to Aethersquall Ancient and Verdurous Gearhulk... yeah, he opened well)

R and W were overdrafted, G was slightly despite not having that many people in it, I guess the pool was a bit lacking.
B lacked great cards despite only 2 of us being in it (the other guy had 3x Screecher, 2x Gonti, Restoration Gearsmith, and several good W fabricate cards, so he had much better payoff than me for the B commons, which means there simply wasn't much B at all in our pool. Screw me. o/)

Pack 1 took Essence Extraction over Gearshift Ace and Bomat Bazar Barge (rare was meh). I hesitated with the Barge to stay more open than a BB pick P1P1, but eh.
Pick 2 passed Voltaic Brawler since gold card. I was clearly in B, wasn't sure of the 2nd card but stuff like Servant of the Conduit and Durable Handicraft pushed me toward G (picked up another Gearshift Ace and an Eddytrail Hawk so that was between that and W).
I also passed Hunt for the Weak, for Azorback Stomper iirc.

Pack 2 I passed a Renegade Freighter early for... I think Ovalchase Daredevil. Daredevil ceiling is much higher but you need to actually get the artifacts to find value out of it, In retrospect I think Freighter should be picked higher, just because it will never wheel.
Demon of Dark Schemes got passed to me so there's that.

All in all my curve was awful because I needed to pick up more creatures, and there wasn't a lot of G around (passed an Outrider at some point, maybe pack 1 for Tidy Conclusion reasoning that both are commons? Dumb).
What I learnt: B is actually pretty damn poor in fabricate, and doesn't curate a curve well with its commons. Screecher not worth it with only 6 artifacts/fabricate in the deck before cuts. Lawless Broker's fine though but it'll get picked early.

Before cuts my 2-drop slot had Embaal Bruiser, Narnam Cobra, 2x Thriving Rats, 3x Dhund Operator, 2x Servant of the Conduit. Ended up cutting an Operator.
Essence Extraction, Die Young (Servants, Demon, Attune to give more energy), 2x Tidy Conclusion, the Demon were my removal. Also Appetite. Sideboard had Make Obsolete and Take Down.
Figured with attune, 10/7 swamps/forests, Wild Wanderer and 2x Servant I could easily cast the Demon.
Idea was, I guess, to either play Durable Handicraft early and bolster all my 2-drops to get a bigger board, and/or snipe big creatures with the removal, and/or use the Demon to reanimate their big stuff.

+ Show Spoiler [matches] +
Match 1 vs RW vehicles aggro
+ Show Spoiler +
Turn 1 + 2 Toolcraft Exemplar. Sets the tone.
I had the Demon of Dark Schemes and Essence Extraction to reduce his stuff though, however he played the 2WW fabricate 2 cards so he'd start smashing me next turn with 3/2 first strike dwarves.
I had 5 mana, Servant of the Conduit and energy. In hand, swamp, Tidy Conclusion, Demon. So use energy to cast the Demon and kill 2x Servo, 2x Dwarves, the 2/1 and my own 2/2 (and 3/2) for massive blowout + energy, right?

Nope.

My mind went "I can cast Tidy this turn and swamp+Demon the next, let's go!"
I took 5 damage from that play, going from 10 to 5.
Later with a dominating board I attacked with several deathtouch things, the Bruiser and the Demon, forcing blocks 'cause it was lethal on paper. Opponent had Mastodon, Skiff, Balista, and the 3/2 red looter. He double-blocked the Bruiser with Mastodon and Balista to live, then cast Start the Engines, swung, pinging me for 1 with the Balista and the skiff finishing me off. Had I held the Demon, or played him correctly earlier on, that was a sure win. Shit happens, and it was my fault.

Game 2 was Skiff and Propeller Pioneer and hit me for 4 a turn consistently. I sided in Make Obsolete because with how his deck was and his propension to make servos for his pump and vehicles, it'd predictably blow him out. I never drew it.
I killed his ground-holding Mastodon and alpha struck for 11 (he chose not to block with his 3/2, otherwise he could trade and only take 9; I was on 10 at that point so I needed to pressure, at least I felt like it). Then he plays Brazen Scourge and it gives him exact lethal. Oh well.
BG super weak to flyers and he always drew them early and I don't deal with vehicles well.

0-1, learn to count your mana yo

Match 2 vs RW aggro
+ Show Spoiler +
He was 2 sits to the left of match 1 guy (who was my neighbour, feels a bit weird to play him round 1), so obviously he didn't get as many good cards.
I didn't know his colours and kept a risky hand game 1 on the play, Durable Handicraft, Wild Wanderer, Essence Extraction and 4 lands. But with 8 2-drops I expected to be able to draw one by turn 3.
We actually durdled a bunch, t3 Salivating Gremlins for him so slow start, killed by Essence Extraction, t5 Wanderer ramped me up and t6 Azorback Stomper put me at 28 life. Hard for aggro to make it back.
I just tanked both Hijacks on the Stomper, and kept playing buffed creatures, into a demon that made his board smaller without killing anything my side.

Game 2 was him mulling to 5 on the play vs my mull to 6, and despite me slightly flooding (something like 10 lands and 7 spells by the end), a Subtle Strike killing Sky Skiff + the 1-drop gremlin and a couple other bigger creatures to follow burnt his ressources and he conceded.

1-1

Match 3 vs UGr energy tempo
+ Show Spoiler +
Paired up against the usual winner! He grumbles a bit since it means he's out of contention for 1st unless the other two 2-0 guys draw.
I haven't seen much of his deck aside from disgusting energy output when watching his friendlies after round 2 (mostly curious about how UG can play since U is so weak), and an Electrostatic Pummeler (which was like his 10th pick pack 3 or something) able to deal 16 by itself (12 energy for 4 activations: 1x2 x2 x2 x2).

Game 1 I actually get to deal a bunch of damage to him with Embraal Bruiser's menace, while he punches back a bit. I have a clear way to the Demon, and have to burn Tidy Conclusion on his Empyreal Voyager (too much thoughness and flyer), and here I make a huge mistake: instead of keep punching with Embraal and Servant, or trading them to his Sage or others, I just take damage, and when I play the Demon I don't attack beforehand so I get more energy.
It's not like I have major stuff to reanimate aside from the Voyager (which can fuel other reanimations by itself anyway), and I don't even have enough energy to reanimate 2 things on my next turn, so...
Then on the next turn, when he animates Freighter I cast Essence Extraction on it and he proceeds to Aether Tradewinds both the Freighter to deny the lifegain, and my Demon. Massive mana advantage and casting the Demon in the first place didn't help me more than him till I could reanimating stuff.
Which I had the mana to do in response to the bounce, but forgot.

I lost the next turn to the creatures he had in play anyway, after a flurry of misplays.
I also fuck up by not siding in my anti-air after seeing Voyager and Snare Thopter.

Game 2 seeing my Embraal Bruiser he simply decided to scry very aggressively with his Aether Theorist rather than trade, and took a bunch of damage as a result. However, Drake + Snape Thopter was going to be a huge clock either way. But since I was playing creatures mostly on curve, I could threaten racing him, and he kept his drake back on defense, buying me a couple turns (Durable Handicraft also made my stuff hit harder, and with all the 2-drops it's easier to find something to play).
He bounced stuff again to buy time however (including his Snare Thopter, hasty threat), and played the uncommon R guy who can ping for 6... and had the energy to do it, with me on 4 life.
I attacked with everything to try and make him sac it (he had to), but that didn't kill him, he kept his 4/4 crab alive, and that + Thopter was lethal.
According to him I could have won that one by attacking with the Menace Bruiser one more time at an earlier turn, then this one holding back something (since it'd have been potential lethal anyway) to survive his next turn, and potentially have something to do.
I'm not sure on the specifics but it's something I hadn't considered (thought it was lethal anyway when I actually had a way to survive by forcing blocks but keeping a blocker for the crab).
Getting a 3-drop bounced when I was stuck on 4 mana was still a serious blow, because I couldn't play 2 creatures on the next turn without the 5th land.

I'm still not sure I would have won this match, but it's true that in retrospect it looked like one of my more likely opportunities to beat him, and I clearly misplayed a lot regardless of whether it'd have made me win or not.

1-2, 6th since I was paired up.

Verdurous Gearhulk, UG fastland, BW fastland, and people complaining that there was nothing in the rares. Well it's KLD, duh, the monetary value is low, don't expect to pay for your drafts with your rares.
I hoped maybe I'd get the fastland but it was picked by the 3rd guy, so I ended up with Depala, Wildest Dreams, another Fateful Showdown.

+ Show Spoiler [observations] +
Format is hard. There are cards with a lower ceiling that are still good enough that they won't ever wheel, and they'll also be consistently good so you'll often regret not having them.
Like when I got wrecked by the Freighter match 3 that I'd passed him, and since the Daredevil plan didn't pan out and I only draw it once...
Actually it's not that the format is hard, more that the restraint to pick the boring generic effective card over the sweet build-around early is hard. I want to recur a Daredevil, not beat with the boring train!

So many double-symbol cards... I say it all the time but it makes itself felt so hard, esp. in B and G (U and R is where it comes up the least I think).
I don't think I'll run 2x Tidy Conclusion anymore. I could rarely see myself run 2x Certain Death, and the format is much faster and you're not even assured to get that much life if the draft doesn't pan out!

Freaking G drafters man. Some of them must have had kinda questionable stuff, since while I didn't pick that many cards all of them were at least decent (Appetite and Cobra for "worst"). On the other hand I don't think UB would have panned at all for me, no artifacts for my early picks.

When you're in BG and you see a single flyer, you just board in all the antiair you have. Best way to just die otherwise.

Tomorrow most of the experienced regulars aren't here because of GP London, and I guess most of last week's won't come back after doing their one draft of the format. I wonder how many of us there'll be, I hope I can sit at an 8-man pod though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-07 02:31:33
October 07 2016 02:30 GMT
#29331
On October 07 2016 09:13 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 05:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 07 2016 05:37 iCanada wrote:
It is astonishing how quick incompetent people are to blame software for their problems.


Gotta love a good PEBCAK or ID-107 error

I didn't know about the ID-107 one, where does it come from?

IDIOT.
I feel like I need to add something to this post. I've heard it said its an I-D-Ten-T or I-D-Ten-Seven error.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 07 2016 03:26 GMT
#29332
Oh! With the dash I'd never have seen it, I think...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 07 2016 05:57 GMT
#29333
Right off the bat, why does your first pick of Essence Extraction mean you're 'clearly in B' by pick 2?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 07 2016 10:08 GMT
#29334
On October 07 2016 14:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Right off the bat, why does your first pick of Essence Extraction mean you're 'clearly in B' by pick 2?

clearly black is open

bless you for still reading his posts
you have courage other people lack
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 07 2016 11:34 GMT
#29335
Tiredness, I think, not sure why I wrote it like that upon rereading. More like "that's not a garbage common so that's a direction I could try to stay in", dunno why I wrote "clearly" like that. Felt more stable than going for a gold card p2 tho.
Also the "since gold card" which doesn't really make sense here. I... guess I was even more out of sorts than I thought.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 07 2016 15:08 GMT
#29336
LLL, what do you think of marzipan? I honestly think it's too gritty on the texture side, but certain others love it.
It's your boy Guzma!
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
October 07 2016 17:02 GMT
#29337
I think marizpan is a great character in homestar runner cartoons. Unfortunately I've never actually encountered it IRL.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 07 2016 17:43 GMT
#29338
On October 08 2016 00:08 Requizen wrote:
LLL, what do you think of marzipan? I honestly think it's too gritty on the texture side, but certain others love it.

In context? Seems like diabetes trap.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
October 07 2016 17:53 GMT
#29339
On October 08 2016 02:02 phyvo wrote:
I think marizpan is a great character in homestar runner cartoons. Unfortunately I've never actually encountered it IRL.

Damn, I thought about making this post earlier but didn't know if people would get it.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
October 07 2016 18:49 GMT
#29340
On October 08 2016 02:43 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 00:08 Requizen wrote:
LLL, what do you think of marzipan? I honestly think it's too gritty on the texture side, but certain others love it.

In context? Seems like diabetes trap.

What is a diabetes trap LOL
marzipan is really tasty imo. Damn, now I want some.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
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