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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 01 2016 21:00 GMT
#28401
On September 02 2016 05:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Cancer is in every single game, OW included. My play experiences with LoL thus far have been overwhelmingly positive since I've been playing with friends.

That's the key. If you play with friends, competitive/vs games are fine. If you play with randoms, they suck. LoL is still a pretty shitty community but if you're with people you like you don't really notice it.
It's your boy Guzma!
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
September 01 2016 21:03 GMT
#28402
It's because it's been so long since me and Wave OW'd, he regressed back into LoL.
Forever Young
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 01 2016 21:09 GMT
#28403
Eh...I wouldn't even say that.
I've played 2-3 games.

I just haven't been playing much of anything lately.
I'll probably be playing even less of anything starting next week when work starts to ramp up.
(I will try to make an upward surge in my gameplay once we move an I get hooked up and can stream again mayyyybe)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 01 2016 21:58 GMT
#28404
We're having a goodbye party for a coworker and I'm just like... can I skip to go level? kthxbye
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 01 2016 22:19 GMT
#28405
On September 02 2016 03:34 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 03:31 ComaDose wrote:
On September 01 2016 21:54 Cixah wrote:
Went to quiz last night instead of playing wow. Hooked up with a chick and ended up getting like 79 points and set the bar record. Got her number too so I have that going for me.

what is "quiz"? what are points?


Geeks who drink. 8 rounds of 8 questions with 2 rounds being worth 16 points, as well as a joker that you can use to double the points of that specific round.

There was a 16 point round last night that was song and artist, but the song had to begin and end with the same letter, and the answers were in alphabetical order. Jokered that round and got 30 points ezgame.

Its usually on Wednesday nights at this " nerd" bar near my place. Its really just a bar with a nerd owner but hey you know whatever brings people in to sell booze.

Edit: Trivia night? Is probably the most common expression people hear for this stuff.

In the Philly area, at least, it's called Quizzo(sp).
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
September 01 2016 23:57 GMT
#28406
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/426532-computer-build-upgrade-and-buying-resource-thread?page=625#12489

any thoughts?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 02 2016 00:00 GMT
#28407
OW SEASON 2 LIVE

Not sure why they'd coordinate this with basically the start of Legion but meh
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
September 02 2016 00:08 GMT
#28408
On September 02 2016 08:57 ComaDose wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/426532-computer-build-upgrade-and-buying-resource-thread?page=625#12489

any thoughts?



sry but don't really know enough about it. I only know about old movies
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 00:15:19
September 02 2016 00:13 GMT
#28409
Screw WoW, I'm still drafting (gonna do CN2 at a pal's next thursday, fine by me).

And I also get a mirror displaced on my car because weekend vandals not liking that some people don't park right when all parking places are taken, and my car was amongst them. Dumbasses. Oh well, it's not like my week-end was already really heavy with stuff and anything. Urgh.

I'll say about this draft that opening Noosegraf Mob, Murder and Sigardian Priest is a conundrum. So I take the very good rare that's in the same colour as the best uncommon for that colour (and will prob put my left neighbour into it), or do I do for white again with a solid common?
+ Show Spoiler +
Went Mob, my neighbour had opened Gisa and Geralf (luckily I didn't have to play against it this time) and took Murder into UB, and his neighbour (our usual winner) tried to go Emerge but seeing no U and with the Priest as almost the only good card for his 3rd pick ended up GW.
We literally had only 1 R drafter amongst 6 people, leading to stuff like Weaver of Lightning wheeling twice, Fiery Temper almost wheeling too, and a pack with Thermo-Alchemist and another great R card. Some did end up cut.

I was BGw (splashing Faith Unbroken) without an artifact (prob should have taken an apparatus) and very light on removal (Boon cut by my neighbour p2, Rabid Bite and al taken by both GW drafters, so I had Disposal, Dead Weight, Faith Unbroken, Pack Guardian as an ambush, Grotesque Mutation for trick in the sb, and that's it).
Foul-Bloods, 2x Survivalists, Bloodbriar+It, Dusk Feaster as delirium pay-off, Scavengers/Grapple as potential recursion, I was pretty much curve out/get delirium online and try to get a midrange win.

Match 1 is against Naya (RGw) wolves, first game he stumbles a bit on mana while I have Kessig Prowler out t1 and curve a bit, he ends up losing when I clear his board with Disposal.
Game 2 I stumble a bit on mana and take some damage from 2x Village Messenger (kill one in response to trigger, he drops the other, welp), then we end in a stand-off of werewolves, I get delirious pretty late with Obsessive Skinner (and realise too late that I can put the counters on Mob too), time is called, I win 1-0.

Match 2 is paired down against GW.
I lose game 1 due to no Delirium basically (prevents me from playing Feaster on t5 and Foul Bloods/Survivalists have to trade rather than make him stop attacking; Mournwillow wouldn't help much tho, that card is bad in that archetype... ) and Fiend Binder preventing me from slowing things down when he looks to be winning the race.
I win game 2 with some of the cards I couldn't cast, we tend to trade a bunch of creatures but mine end up bigger.
Game 3 has him with a Shrill Howler + Sigardian Priest combo to annoy me, I set up a Ruthless Disposal but the next turn he drops a second Priest. In the end, time is called and we draw because I can very easily set up a large board given a couple turns, but couldn't get through/get big enough fast enough for turns.

Match 3 vs the usual winner, on GW too.
Game 1 comes down to him topdecking Expose Evil for 2 blockers, cracking the clue and topdecking Faith Unbroken for the 3rd one. Welp. Because I had Faith Unbroken and finally stabilised the board the turn before that, I could have taken over and won had I survived that attack.
Which I would have done had I dealt with his Fiend Binder earlier, by accepting that I'd lose a creature and double-blocking it. Instead, he used 3 different tricks to eat a creature each time (and because of the tapped blocker, pushing damage through). When I realised that, well... I could have won a game against him for once! But I'm the only one to blame when I misplay (against him it's not even greediness to not double-block, his builds are more well-rounded than most people here so of course he's got tricks—Tenacity, Borrowed Grace, etc.).
Game 2 he gets greedy with Inspector, Lone Rider x2, a 3-drop, a couple tricks... and a single plains. I start with Prowler into Pack Guardian and win quickly as he doesn't draw a single land.
Game 3 has me with Primal Druid, Bloodbriar, Fork in the Road... and a single swamp in my starting hand for the 3rd time this evening. I'm pretty miffed by my lack of luck but you gotta do what you gotta do and I mulligan. I already needed to cast Grapple EoT 2 during the first game to hit a swamp that time, after taking the exact same mulligan. I keep 2 swamps, Bloodbriar, Feaster and a couple other stuff, and hit no forests on the draw till turn 4 so I take a lot of damage from being unable to block after turn 3. It'll eventually snowball the match despite the appearance of a Mob and some other stuff because I have 3+ creature cards with G in hand and never hit my 2nd forest until I'm dead on board to get more blockers. I also don't hit delirium (need sorcery and I got several) which hurts my blocks a lot, as I take damage every turn so in the end Faith Unbroken on Dawn Gryff puts me on too short a clock.

On the other hand, him never drawing any of his Lone Rider with 2 lands available against me helped a lot.

End up 1-1-1 (while others finished, we played some other games, I think I went 2-4 or something and the other win was a floodfest with both of us on 13+ lands drawn in ~25 cards and my finding an answer first).
3rd (another one went 2-1), we only really opened Westvale Abbey, but I went home with Game Trail and I got to draft G (in arguably its worst pair, a 6-man pod, and with good cards like Gnarlwood Dryad cut from me, but still), so not the worst evening.

I'm a bit scared when I see that wall of text and realise that it's still under half my usual write-ups' length...

Also screw OW I guess, I'll have stuff to do this w-e, gf needs me 'cause new flat+job is making her uneasy, and my own is gonna need cleaning and stuff all this week-end. Uh. So much stuff to do...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 00:39:29
September 02 2016 00:29 GMT
#28410
On September 02 2016 08:57 ComaDose wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/426532-computer-build-upgrade-and-buying-resource-thread?page=625#12489

any thoughts?

Are you capable of building a computer/know somebody that will do it for you if you buy the parts? Honestly, for that price range you'd be underbuying on your GPU and over buying on your CPU. Then, like you mentioned in your post, you're buying twice as much ram as you need.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
September 02 2016 01:59 GMT
#28411
On September 02 2016 09:29 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 08:57 ComaDose wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/426532-computer-build-upgrade-and-buying-resource-thread?page=625#12489

any thoughts?

Are you capable of building a computer/know somebody that will do it for you if you buy the parts? Honestly, for that price range you'd be underbuying on your GPU and over buying on your CPU. Then, like you mentioned in your post, you're buying twice as much ram as you need.

Yeah I built my PC.
Is the CPU really an over buy? It seems relatively weak...
What gpu would you recommend in that price range?
What I linked is def not what I would build myself but the fact it's on sale for $200 off and comes with win10 sounded nice.
I haven't ripped modern windows in a while... Is it just as easy?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
September 02 2016 02:13 GMT
#28412
I don't think that you can run OW on max setting at 150 hz with that. Cpu might not be able to keep up.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
September 02 2016 02:32 GMT
#28413
On September 02 2016 11:13 Eppa! wrote:
I don't think that you can run OW on max setting at 150 hz with that. Cpu might not be able to keep up.

I mean i generally argue for locked in at 60fps as opposed to variable, i was just mentioning the monitor (that im probably gonna get to match the 2 already on our desk)'s potential for feedback like this. What would you recommend?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 02:46:05
September 02 2016 02:45 GMT
#28414
Run it on low? It's a fine build (don't know the pricing of hardware in your area). There is imo no point in spending more if you aren't into it.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 02:52:15
September 02 2016 02:50 GMT
#28415
On September 02 2016 11:45 Eppa! wrote:
Run it on low? It's a fine build (don't know the pricing of hardware in your area). There is imo no point in spending more if you aren't into it.

what I really want for her is:
- high ow settings
- 1000$

everything else is flexible... I didnt like the graphics card but wasnt sure if it was a deal breaker for getting all that other stuff for the price. (nice SSD and HDD and win 10 and the arguably overkill 16gb ram and the decent cpu)

Pricing in canada is much more than US but not sure how it compares to euro
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 03:28:38
September 02 2016 03:27 GMT
#28416
The only problem with the gpu running OW high is that it might make the room hot but its not the most intense game gpu wise. I think 16 gb ram isn't overkill, I run 8 gigs but you notice that sometimes it's not enough. Tbh the most important thing is good mouse for OW. If you want high setting and consistent 144 fps it's probably not going to do that but if you want to run 60 it shouldn't be a problem. You might get 144 if you fiddle with settings
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 04:26:45
September 02 2016 04:24 GMT
#28417
On September 02 2016 10:59 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 09:29 Gahlo wrote:
On September 02 2016 08:57 ComaDose wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/426532-computer-build-upgrade-and-buying-resource-thread?page=625#12489

any thoughts?

Are you capable of building a computer/know somebody that will do it for you if you buy the parts? Honestly, for that price range you'd be underbuying on your GPU and over buying on your CPU. Then, like you mentioned in your post, you're buying twice as much ram as you need.

Yeah I built my PC.
Is the CPU really an over buy? It seems relatively weak...
What gpu would you recommend in that price range?
What I linked is def not what I would build myself but the fact it's on sale for $200 off and comes with win10 sounded nice.
I haven't ripped modern windows in a while... Is it just as easy?

While it isn't the end all be all, I really like http://www.logicalincrements.com/ when it comes to looking at parts individually. In their example builds, they have the GPU from that computer in their $589USD build and that CPU in their $1031USD build. This bring up the important point that...

On September 02 2016 11:13 Eppa! wrote:
I don't think that you can run OW on max setting at 150 hz with that. Cpu might not be able to keep up.

For most gaming purposes, your CPU won't be your first bottleneck unless it is literally generations behind. Being a new computer, this isn't a concern. The workload to make the graphics for any modern game is immensely more intensive than the math and physics behind it.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 02 2016 06:29 GMT
#28418
On September 02 2016 13:24 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 10:59 ComaDose wrote:
On September 02 2016 09:29 Gahlo wrote:
On September 02 2016 08:57 ComaDose wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/426532-computer-build-upgrade-and-buying-resource-thread?page=625#12489

any thoughts?

Are you capable of building a computer/know somebody that will do it for you if you buy the parts? Honestly, for that price range you'd be underbuying on your GPU and over buying on your CPU. Then, like you mentioned in your post, you're buying twice as much ram as you need.

Yeah I built my PC.
Is the CPU really an over buy? It seems relatively weak...
What gpu would you recommend in that price range?
What I linked is def not what I would build myself but the fact it's on sale for $200 off and comes with win10 sounded nice.
I haven't ripped modern windows in a while... Is it just as easy?

While it isn't the end all be all, I really like http://www.logicalincrements.com/ when it comes to looking at parts individually. In their example builds, they have the GPU from that computer in their $589USD build and that CPU in their $1031USD build. This bring up the important point that...

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 11:13 Eppa! wrote:
I don't think that you can run OW on max setting at 150 hz with that. Cpu might not be able to keep up.

For most gaming purposes, your CPU won't be your first bottleneck unless it is literally generations behind. Being a new computer, this isn't a concern. The workload to make the graphics for any modern game is immensely more intensive than the math and physics behind it.


With 1k total price you should dump 3-400 bucks into the GPU tbh. GTX 1060 at least if not better. There's also the problem that pre-builts generally don't give info on motherboard/PSU because they tend to skimp on those. Those components don't need to be expensive but you do need them to be reliable.

I honestly think you can get the i5-6500 and the GTX1060 and fit within budget without much of a problem.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 02 2016 06:43 GMT
#28419
The other place where prebuilts fuck you is in HDD's.

All of those fucking things have 5200 RPM drives in em. Like fuck off, spend 5 bucks and get me one that is 50% faster.

If budget is an issue, I'd honestly grab the AMD cards instead. A 480 with an Overclocked Sandybridge can crush whatever you throw at it unless it is like 4k @ 144 Hz... but a 4k 144 Hz monitor is worth double your budget anyway.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 02 2016 06:56 GMT
#28420
On September 02 2016 15:29 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 13:24 Gahlo wrote:
On September 02 2016 10:59 ComaDose wrote:
On September 02 2016 09:29 Gahlo wrote:
On September 02 2016 08:57 ComaDose wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/426532-computer-build-upgrade-and-buying-resource-thread?page=625#12489

any thoughts?

Are you capable of building a computer/know somebody that will do it for you if you buy the parts? Honestly, for that price range you'd be underbuying on your GPU and over buying on your CPU. Then, like you mentioned in your post, you're buying twice as much ram as you need.

Yeah I built my PC.
Is the CPU really an over buy? It seems relatively weak...
What gpu would you recommend in that price range?
What I linked is def not what I would build myself but the fact it's on sale for $200 off and comes with win10 sounded nice.
I haven't ripped modern windows in a while... Is it just as easy?

While it isn't the end all be all, I really like http://www.logicalincrements.com/ when it comes to looking at parts individually. In their example builds, they have the GPU from that computer in their $589USD build and that CPU in their $1031USD build. This bring up the important point that...

On September 02 2016 11:13 Eppa! wrote:
I don't think that you can run OW on max setting at 150 hz with that. Cpu might not be able to keep up.

For most gaming purposes, your CPU won't be your first bottleneck unless it is literally generations behind. Being a new computer, this isn't a concern. The workload to make the graphics for any modern game is immensely more intensive than the math and physics behind it.


With 1k total price you should dump 3-400 bucks into the GPU tbh. GTX 1060 at least if not better. There's also the problem that pre-builts generally don't give info on motherboard/PSU because they tend to skimp on those. Those components don't need to be expensive but you do need them to be reliable.

I honestly think you can get the i5-6500 and the GTX1060 and fit within budget without much of a problem.

Problem he has is that his budget is 1k CAD, which comes out to ~763 USD. GTX1060 and a 6500 come out to ~65% of his budget. After RAM, a 240gb SSD, and a 1T HDD there's only $130USD left, but he still needs a case, power supply, mobo. The math just doesn't work out at that level.

On September 02 2016 15:43 iCanada wrote:
The other place where prebuilts fuck you is in HDD's.

All of those fucking things have 5200 RPM drives in em. Like fuck off, spend 5 bucks and get me one that is 50% faster.

If budget is an issue, I'd honestly grab the AMD cards instead. A 480 with an Overclocked Sandybridge can crush whatever you throw at it unless it is like 4k @ 144 Hz... but a 4k 144 Hz monitor is worth double your budget anyway.

5200RPM HDD aren't a problem. Any games he has will be on the SSD, which be better than anything a HDD will provide. The HDD will be entirely for storage, audio, and video media which doesn't need blazing speed.
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