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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 03 2015 21:00 GMT
#83421
Hm, there are 21 heroes I have yet to play in a none-COOP game, inc BM, techies, oracle, or meepo next time I play all pick...
Steam: rook492
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
February 03 2015 21:01 GMT
#83422
The thing with techies is you have like 4 different play style options all depending on lanes and where and what you need to do.

Dragging the game late is really easy so long as you know how to keep your teir ones up while you hit 6 and 11. Once you hit 11 you can start remote mining the tops of your ramps and in well traveled places. As soon as they start crossing over, or if you want to guarrentee a kill hit them with a stun, pop the 7-10 remotes and its usually enough to kill most anyone. Dusa and TA are the two main issues I have, that and anyone with the ability to chase/silence me.

While not optimal you can also push turrets like crazy, level 4 mines only takes 5-6 uses to kill a t1 and t2.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 03 2015 21:01 GMT
#83423
On February 04 2015 05:58 Crusnik wrote:
I use Dusa, Skadi gives nice stats and lets me tank a lot of runes, also a decent reason to finish the Yasha into manta before being 6slotted

Whenever I see Skadi I think about Utgarde Pinnacle and that fucking Blue Protodrake mount that I could never get to drop T_T
It's your boy Guzma!
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
February 03 2015 21:02 GMT
#83424
On February 04 2015 06:01 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 05:58 Crusnik wrote:
I use Dusa, Skadi gives nice stats and lets me tank a lot of runes, also a decent reason to finish the Yasha into manta before being 6slotted

Whenever I see Skadi I think about Utgarde Pinnacle and that fucking Blue Protodrake mount that I could never get to drop T_T


LODI DODI
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
February 03 2015 21:04 GMT
#83425
On February 04 2015 05:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 05:14 mordek wrote:
On February 04 2015 05:02 red_ wrote:
On February 04 2015 04:41 mordek wrote:
For me I just like to hop on and play some games with my buds.


Which I find is done best when I don't have to worry about grinding in-game currencies to play what I want.

I can't hop on League and just play right now because I have no IP or RP and am missing like 70 champs.
I own nothing on Smite or Heroes.
I own everything on Dota2. Hell I can even play multiple heroes in one game(ARDM) or heroes that don't really exist(AD).

This is how it goes with everyone I play with in terms of evaluating what to play in Heroes, in equal measure pretty much:

-Does it meet a daily requirement?
-Do I like to play this hero
-Does it make sense with what someone else picked

I've never felt, man if only I had this other hero unlocked... and if I did I can buy any hero I want in the game right now and I play on average 1 Heroes game a day.


You're fighting a losing battle here mord. We tried to make Smite a thing, and that game is far less hated here =P

I'd be down to play some more smite with you and req sometime once i get my rig set up in a couple weeks those were good times.

I'd be town to play Heroes with Mordek too tho! assuming i have access to the beta on my account by then.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 03 2015 21:07 GMT
#83426
On February 04 2015 06:01 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 05:58 Crusnik wrote:
I use Dusa, Skadi gives nice stats and lets me tank a lot of runes, also a decent reason to finish the Yasha into manta before being 6slotted

Whenever I see Skadi I think about Utgarde Pinnacle and that fucking Blue Protodrake mount that I could never get to drop T_T

Y
Y u remind of how much time I wasted on that game

Fuck the blue one, ever tried for the time-lost?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 03 2015 21:09 GMT
#83427
On February 04 2015 06:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 06:01 Requizen wrote:
On February 04 2015 05:58 Crusnik wrote:
I use Dusa, Skadi gives nice stats and lets me tank a lot of runes, also a decent reason to finish the Yasha into manta before being 6slotted

Whenever I see Skadi I think about Utgarde Pinnacle and that fucking Blue Protodrake mount that I could never get to drop T_T

Y
Y u remind of how much time I wasted on that game

Fuck the blue one, ever tried for the time-lost?

I've seen the corpse

TWICE

I spent so much downtime just flying circles around there.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 03 2015 21:10 GMT
#83428
On February 04 2015 06:04 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 05:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 04 2015 05:14 mordek wrote:
On February 04 2015 05:02 red_ wrote:
On February 04 2015 04:41 mordek wrote:
For me I just like to hop on and play some games with my buds.


Which I find is done best when I don't have to worry about grinding in-game currencies to play what I want.

I can't hop on League and just play right now because I have no IP or RP and am missing like 70 champs.
I own nothing on Smite or Heroes.
I own everything on Dota2. Hell I can even play multiple heroes in one game(ARDM) or heroes that don't really exist(AD).

This is how it goes with everyone I play with in terms of evaluating what to play in Heroes, in equal measure pretty much:

-Does it meet a daily requirement?
-Do I like to play this hero
-Does it make sense with what someone else picked

I've never felt, man if only I had this other hero unlocked... and if I did I can buy any hero I want in the game right now and I play on average 1 Heroes game a day.


You're fighting a losing battle here mord. We tried to make Smite a thing, and that game is far less hated here =P

I'd be down to play some more smite with you and req sometime once i get my rig set up in a couple weeks those were good times.

I'd be town to play Heroes with Mordek too tho! assuming i have access to the beta on my account by then.

I do still occasionally hop on Smite. The gameplay is fun as heck, and I still think the community is (on a whole) better than LoL. I think Hi-Rez has done a great job on it.
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 03 2015 21:11 GMT
#83429
lol, most difficult mount I ever cared about getting was the Sunreaver Dragonhawk.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 03 2015 21:15 GMT
#83430
On February 04 2015 05:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 05:14 mordek wrote:
On February 04 2015 05:02 red_ wrote:
On February 04 2015 04:41 mordek wrote:
For me I just like to hop on and play some games with my buds.


Which I find is done best when I don't have to worry about grinding in-game currencies to play what I want.

I can't hop on League and just play right now because I have no IP or RP and am missing like 70 champs.
I own nothing on Smite or Heroes.
I own everything on Dota2. Hell I can even play multiple heroes in one game(ARDM) or heroes that don't really exist(AD).

This is how it goes with everyone I play with in terms of evaluating what to play in Heroes, in equal measure pretty much:

-Does it meet a daily requirement?
-Do I like to play this hero
-Does it make sense with what someone else picked

I've never felt, man if only I had this other hero unlocked... and if I did I can buy any hero I want in the game right now and I play on average 1 Heroes game a day.


You're fighting a losing battle here mord. We tried to make Smite a thing, and that game is far less hated here =P

Eh, I just am currently really enjoying the game and like talking about it. There's tons of topics I can't contribute to so I'm hopping on this one
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 03 2015 21:16 GMT
#83431
On February 04 2015 06:09 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 06:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2015 06:01 Requizen wrote:
On February 04 2015 05:58 Crusnik wrote:
I use Dusa, Skadi gives nice stats and lets me tank a lot of runes, also a decent reason to finish the Yasha into manta before being 6slotted

Whenever I see Skadi I think about Utgarde Pinnacle and that fucking Blue Protodrake mount that I could never get to drop T_T

Y
Y u remind of how much time I wasted on that game

Fuck the blue one, ever tried for the time-lost?

I've seen the corpse

TWICE

I spent so much downtime just flying circles around there.

The only thing making routing for those and the other wotlk rares worth it was the music. Especially storm peaks.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 03 2015 21:16 GMT
#83432
On February 04 2015 06:15 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 05:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 04 2015 05:14 mordek wrote:
On February 04 2015 05:02 red_ wrote:
On February 04 2015 04:41 mordek wrote:
For me I just like to hop on and play some games with my buds.


Which I find is done best when I don't have to worry about grinding in-game currencies to play what I want.

I can't hop on League and just play right now because I have no IP or RP and am missing like 70 champs.
I own nothing on Smite or Heroes.
I own everything on Dota2. Hell I can even play multiple heroes in one game(ARDM) or heroes that don't really exist(AD).

This is how it goes with everyone I play with in terms of evaluating what to play in Heroes, in equal measure pretty much:

-Does it meet a daily requirement?
-Do I like to play this hero
-Does it make sense with what someone else picked

I've never felt, man if only I had this other hero unlocked... and if I did I can buy any hero I want in the game right now and I play on average 1 Heroes game a day.


You're fighting a losing battle here mord. We tried to make Smite a thing, and that game is far less hated here =P

Eh, I just am currently really enjoying the game and like talking about it. There's tons of topics I can't contribute to so I'm hopping on this one

Plz mordek I've been craving MTG discussion and you don't contribute
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 03 2015 21:17 GMT
#83433
On February 04 2015 06:11 Gahlo wrote:
lol, most difficult mount I ever cared about getting was the Sunreaver Dragonhawk.

Ugh, I was so pissed when we switched to Alliance. The ally mounts are shit compared to Horde for the most part.

On February 04 2015 06:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 06:09 Requizen wrote:
On February 04 2015 06:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2015 06:01 Requizen wrote:
On February 04 2015 05:58 Crusnik wrote:
I use Dusa, Skadi gives nice stats and lets me tank a lot of runes, also a decent reason to finish the Yasha into manta before being 6slotted

Whenever I see Skadi I think about Utgarde Pinnacle and that fucking Blue Protodrake mount that I could never get to drop T_T

Y
Y u remind of how much time I wasted on that game

Fuck the blue one, ever tried for the time-lost?

I've seen the corpse

TWICE

I spent so much downtime just flying circles around there.

The only thing making routing for those and the other wotlk rares worth it was the music. Especially storm peaks.

Truth, Wrath was probably my favorite expansion, period.
It's your boy Guzma!
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
February 03 2015 21:17 GMT
#83434
Rivendare
Horseman
Huntsman

Super Techincally, Firehawk and Firebird ground mount. But those were 100% drops back then.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 03 2015 21:20 GMT
#83435
On February 04 2015 06:17 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 06:11 Gahlo wrote:
lol, most difficult mount I ever cared about getting was the Sunreaver Dragonhawk.

Ugh, I was so pissed when we switched to Alliance. The ally mounts are shit compared to Horde for the most part.

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 06:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2015 06:09 Requizen wrote:
On February 04 2015 06:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2015 06:01 Requizen wrote:
On February 04 2015 05:58 Crusnik wrote:
I use Dusa, Skadi gives nice stats and lets me tank a lot of runes, also a decent reason to finish the Yasha into manta before being 6slotted

Whenever I see Skadi I think about Utgarde Pinnacle and that fucking Blue Protodrake mount that I could never get to drop T_T

Y
Y u remind of how much time I wasted on that game

Fuck the blue one, ever tried for the time-lost?

I've seen the corpse

TWICE

I spent so much downtime just flying circles around there.

The only thing making routing for those and the other wotlk rares worth it was the music. Especially storm peaks.

Truth, Wrath was probably my favorite expansion, period.

I definitely spent the most time on wrath by far. Overall content-based probably wrath (and ulduar being the best raid instance blizz ever designed) but I probably had more fun overall BC raiding (which could have simply been because of the guild I was in at the time).
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
February 03 2015 21:21 GMT
#83436
I don't know how League could ever break the model they have now. The uproar of everyone who already spent money on buying champs would be unruly. People would... riot. Until they come out with League 2.0 they have to continue with this model it seems like.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 03 2015 21:22 GMT
#83437
They could always just start more aggressively reducing costs of current champs. No one gets fired up when there's a price reduction.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 03 2015 21:23 GMT
#83438
On February 04 2015 06:21 JonGalt wrote:
I don't know how League could ever break the model they have now. The uproar of everyone who already spent money on buying champs would be unruly. People would... riot. Until they come out with League 2.0 they have to continue with this model it seems like.

They wouldnt' have to break the model, they would just have to modify it. Make level 1-30 more trivial, more free champs per week, lower costs on a lot of the champs, more IP per game, etc.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 03 2015 21:26 GMT
#83439
On February 04 2015 06:17 Cixah wrote:
Rivendare
Horseman
Huntsman

Super Techincally, Firehawk and Firebird ground mount. But those were 100% drops back then.

My friend grinded for Rivendare's mount for like a year straight. I mean serious, he never missed a reset, could do the instance with his eyes closed grind. When he finally got it, he kept going back out of habit even though it brought him physical pain.

I beat him for rolls on Headless Horseman's mount. Twice. Both times my rolls were higher than his by 1 or so.

On February 04 2015 06:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 06:17 Requizen wrote:
On February 04 2015 06:11 Gahlo wrote:
lol, most difficult mount I ever cared about getting was the Sunreaver Dragonhawk.

Ugh, I was so pissed when we switched to Alliance. The ally mounts are shit compared to Horde for the most part.

On February 04 2015 06:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2015 06:09 Requizen wrote:
On February 04 2015 06:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2015 06:01 Requizen wrote:
On February 04 2015 05:58 Crusnik wrote:
I use Dusa, Skadi gives nice stats and lets me tank a lot of runes, also a decent reason to finish the Yasha into manta before being 6slotted

Whenever I see Skadi I think about Utgarde Pinnacle and that fucking Blue Protodrake mount that I could never get to drop T_T

Y
Y u remind of how much time I wasted on that game

Fuck the blue one, ever tried for the time-lost?

I've seen the corpse

TWICE

I spent so much downtime just flying circles around there.

The only thing making routing for those and the other wotlk rares worth it was the music. Especially storm peaks.

Truth, Wrath was probably my favorite expansion, period.

I definitely spent the most time on wrath by far. Overall content-based probably wrath (and ulduar being the best raid instance blizz ever designed) but I probably had more fun overall BC raiding (which could have simply been because of the guild I was in at the time).

I could agree with that. I looooooved Kara, but I wasn't as big of a fan of SSC or the Eye. I felt like Wrath's dungeons were amazing despite the whole phasing out of CC. And yeah, Ulduar was a goddamn masterpiece (even though TOC and ICC were kinda meh).

Despite being a frozen wasteland, Northrend felt way more alive than Outland or any of the Cata zones. I did really like Mists' world, though.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 03 2015 21:26 GMT
#83440
Riot having to stick with their model is also totally independent of other companies using it.

This kind of model sort of has a first adopter's advantage--where it's really hard for other companies to mimic it and expect to see the same success, given how the cost people have already spent on League really discourages people from switching to something else with the same business model.

I think it's fine that Riot did it (the idea that an F2P MOBA would be sustainable purely selling cosmetics wasn't really proven yet at that point, and it would be a pretty risky move for a company that wasn't all that rich yet making their first foray into the market), but it's pretty silly for other companies to try and break into the now-established market with that business model.
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