Am I the only Hearthstone player that hates Zombie Chow? I see so many people running it, and I get it, 2/3 for 1 is great for early board control, but the deathrattle has cost me enough games that I'm just disgusted with it.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

January 20 2015 16:01 GMT

#81222

The whole Jury thing is pretty alien to me. Why do you have to all go in at the same time when calling numbers? Couldn't they just schedule it?

On January 21 2015 00:59 Requizen wrote:
Am I the only Hearthstone player that hates Zombie Chow? I see so many people running it, and I get it, 2/3 for 1 is great for early board control, but the deathrattle has cost me enough games that I'm just disgusted with it.

Generally the decks you use it in you shouldn't be losing games due to it. Druid/Priest use it to deal with super aggro to make them run out of steam so the HP isn't really important. What kind of situations is it costing you?

JonGalt

Pootie too good!4331 Posts

January 20 2015 16:03 GMT

#81223

On January 21 2015 00:46 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Jury duty, hour 1: sitting, listening for numbers called. None my own. Hunger setting in sooner than expected, may have to eat shoe or other juror.

Did you bring a book!? YOU FUCKED UP IF YA DIDN'T.

Glad Papa Soniv is ok!

Alaric

France45622 Posts

January 20 2015 16:03 GMT

#81224

Well you don't play it in an aggro or sometimes even midrange deck, sure. It basically needs your opponent to not play 3+ HP stuff for 2 turns to deal damage that'll stick (letting you attack with it thrice), so you don't really play it for the damage. It also kind of sucks if these situations happen anyway since that prob. means control deck.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

January 20 2015 16:07 GMT

#81225

I was using it in Deathrattle Hunter and various Control decks, but of course with my RNG I don't draw them early on, I get them later when I actually want to do damage. When, you know, 5 health actually matters and a 2/3 doesn't really do anything.

mordek

United States12705 Posts

January 20 2015 16:14 GMT

#81226

My understanding is Chow is useful when you need to handle early aggression and are on the defensive (opponent is the beatdown) Typically they are at 30hp in those situations so the life gain is negligible if they've taken incidental damage, you're goal is to outlast. Zombie Chow does a great job at handling early aggression and the downside is typically moot if you're opponent is near 30. However it is a dead draw later in the game in most situations. That's why I like to run them in my priest with Auchenai

If you're just not drawing them at the right time that's RNG. If they don't feel that useful when you draw them early then ditch them.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

January 20 2015 16:14 GMT

#81227

Only 1 drops in a deathrattle hunter should be webspinner and Gnome(If you want). No need to have anything else. In control vs control you typically don't really drop chow unless you can do it early or you in a good enough position that it won't matter.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

January 20 2015 16:25 GMT

#81228

Can use both gnomes too.

AsmodeusXI

United States15536 Posts

January 20 2015 16:26 GMT

#81229

On January 21 2015 01:03 JonGalt wrote:

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Did you bring a book!? YOU FUCKED UP IF YA DIDN'T.

Glad Papa Soniv is ok!

Book in hand for sure. Also notebook for writing if it goes that long.

Zzzz. I guess I'm not at work so that's not the worst.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

January 20 2015 16:39 GMT

#81230

Oh, right, I had forgotten about the Auchenai interaction. A chaman AoE'd my board down an I thought it was going to become hard to finish him off (my Priest deck is basically only stealing cards/minions + Auchenai/Cultist/Harvest/Belcher and a bit of removal (SW, Nova, Lightbomb), so I have no finisher unless I can MC Rag, or not have Boom BGH'd), then all of a sudden he loses 10 HP. Weeee~

You don't want Chow in your Hunter decks specifically because you're aggro: you usually don't want to remove his board so much as force him to deal with yours, unless he's got stuff such as undertakers of his own, jugglers, snow chuggers, etc.
With undertakers, webspinners and leper gnomes as 1-drops, and mad scientist/haunted creeper/loot hoarder as 2-drops, you're generally pretty well-covered in early stuff (you're going to mulligan very aggressively for undertakers anyway).

justiceknight

Singapore5741 Posts

January 20 2015 17:10 GMT

#81231

lets buy this

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jcarlsoniv

United States27922 Posts

January 20 2015 17:16 GMT

#81232

This is a case description that came in today:

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What needs to happen to allow my access to what universe I'm not allowed access to now?

Can't make this shit up.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

January 20 2015 17:21 GMT

#81233

Thanks! I really want to spend more on Hearthstone, but I have to buy a new 40k codex next week ($50) and then have to start saving for this whole wedding thing... but I guess $20-$40 can't hurt...

Also my card base is really minimal, is it better to get half GvG and half Classic or are the GvG cards that much better that I should just go all in on them?

phyvo

United States5635 Posts

January 20 2015 17:44 GMT

#81234

Actually, the best deal for the price is probably naxxramus ($25). A lot of naxx cards are still really good (sludge belcher for one) and kel'thuzad and loatheb are great guaranteed legendaries. You could buy 15 packs for $20 but unlike naxx packs will give you extra copies of cards and 15 packs might not even have a legendary.

If you *do* buy packs with $$$ though my suggestion is to pool all your $$$ into *either* classic or GvG. That way you take advantage of the bulk purchase discount. Then, as you earn gold, buy the cards from the other set until you feel like you've evened things out. Buying GvG first with $$$ gives you the upside of some really strong cards, but buying classic with $$$ first will probably give you more different kinds of cards at first because the # of classic cards is greater than in GvG. Take your pick.

edit:
also note that if you choose to buy Naxx with gold that's costs 3500 which you could have used for 35 packs so Naxx is much cheaper to buy with $$$ than gold.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

January 20 2015 17:53 GMT

#81235

I just bought Naxx and got all the cards (haven't touched Heroic yet), so I have all the nice things from there now. I really want to make Deathlord work in a control deck, but again, that Deathrattle.

Forgot about the discount, I guess that's true.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

January 20 2015 17:57 GMT

#81236

Iirc there's about as many cards in GvG and in classic (if you remove the soulbound cards). However, there are many more class cards (leading to staple cards) in classic than GvG. If you remove legendaries and what comes from Naxx, I'm not sure what to shoot for though. There are more useful cards in classic, but they're less versatile.
Maybe it's easier to go for GvG and then just craft the classic common cards you need as a base? Unless you want to save for a legendary.

jcarlsoniv

United States27922 Posts

January 20 2015 18:38 GMT

#81237

If you plan on playing arena for some cards, I'd probably say it's better to invest in classic cuz you get the GvG packs from arena wins.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

January 20 2015 19:29 GMT

#81238

Yeah, I don't like Arena. I want legendaries, but I dunno whether I want to just dust things and get them or just burn packs for them.

Hell I don't even know what I wanna play. I've really been enjoying Inner Fire Priest lately, but it's not exactly fantastic.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

January 20 2015 19:37 GMT

#81239

Honestly if you don't know what you want yet, it's a terrible time to buy cards.

You can make perfectly playable decks with basics + Naxx + a few good cards from packs. Nothing that will get you super far, but enough to do quests, learn the game, and have fun with it.