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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On January 08 2015 01:56 Ketara wrote: Seuss hits the reason that I don't like Hearthstone right on the head. My other big problem is that you don't get anything for losing a game. That might sound weird when you just say it, but in EVERYTHING ELSE you get something for a loss. In LoL you still get IP, and in MMOs you still get EXP or whatever. If you got 10 dust for every 3 losses I'd probably like Hearthstone a lot more, because as is if I play it and have a long, close game where I end up losing, I typically immediately turn the game off and don't play it for the rest of the day. Dust for losses would be a problem for two reasons. Firstly, as your card library fills up dust actually becomes just as valuable as gold since the average pack (100 gold) is worth about 100 dust (mostly because the few epics and legendaries you get skew the average). Secondly, it encourages farming losses. Unlike most F2P games this is not a team game with a complex leaver buster / vote to concede system. As a result it would be much easier to game this in Hearthstone. Even if you removed the ability to concede people could just play suicide decks or let their opponent hit face. It's just much easier to reward wins. IMO though, something should be done about the time investment. Winning on turn 5 should not give the same reward that winning with fatigue does. Running into cancer hunter/lock all the time is really boring. Again though early concedes could really screw with the ability to implement that. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On January 08 2015 02:11 Requizen wrote: Petitioning for something that ends with people getting hurt should trigger some sort of empathy. But you know, being an edgy euro teenager and all you like to remind us with every single fucking post that you don't understand empathy and hate everyone. you mean it ends with muslims getting butthurt or cartoonists getting hurt by lead? I have the utmost respect and sympathy for the cartoonists and don't find their deaths funny by themselves people getting butthurt is always funny. when it's muslims getting offended by funny pictures of their prophet it's like doubly funny because they are getting butthurt over something funny | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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739
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 08 2015 02:37 739 wrote: yeah why no Skarner? Currently debugging. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Why is Cheep a mod now? | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
The primary problem that the shooting stems from isn't the drawings. That's the catalyst for this specific shooting, but Muslim immigrant groups haven't been well-integrated into most European societies and states since well, ever. France in particular has a troubling history of that, from the treatment of loyalist Muslim Algerians fleeing after the Algerian War, to the more recent controversy over the veil or the race riots in the 00's. Generally poor, usually end up segregated in poor substandard banlieues (in the French case; but the general pattern is true across most of the US/Europe when it comes to disenfranchised groups). This in turn drives the Muslim extremism that you see in Europe in particular; social alienation from wider French/British/German/whatever society leads young individuals to seek greater meaning or an identity to latch onto, which in Europe (for Muslims) often tends to be religion; and, when faced with persecution and marginalization, radicalization is often a result. And indeed, radicalization of Islamic youth has been rising far more rapidly in Europe than in other parts of the Muslim world (I've read case studies where Maghreb youth end up picking up radicalized ideals while vacationing in Europe, ironically enough). aka. there is a direct set of casual and social factors which drive individuals, particularly young males, into extremism; especially in a developed nation. It's easy and relatively to say extremists/terrorists/whatever are crazy, that they'll keep popping up, etc. etc. But what's more important is to recognize what drove them into extremist ideologies in the first place, and there's quite a corpus of literature on THAT. I can recommend books on the subject, but everyone's probably tired of the subject and my spiel already.  Also, While I as a player would find rewards for losing in HS to be a good idea, phyvo raises the extremely problematic aspects of it, and why it probably won't be implemented. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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739
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 08 2015 02:44 Ketara wrote: In other news. Why is Cheep a mod now? He's still only a Writer on TL, I don't think he's been mod'd | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Cheep is staff on TL, I'm not sure if that gives him power over all the sites or how things work out. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On January 08 2015 02:46 Dandel Ion wrote: i cant imagine why he would be but its basically impossible to tell who is a mod on this site so i would not know either way No I mean, Cheep is a mod. Why is that? Could they really not find anybody better than the guy who was kicked out of the subforum for repeatedly harassing people, abusing his "staff" position and refusing to abide by the rules of the actual mods? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On January 08 2015 02:33 Gahlo wrote: Anybody else find it highly ironic that Scip, of all people, has a berserker as his favorite champion? gotta get mad to win | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 08 2015 02:50 Ketara wrote: No I mean, Cheep is a mod. Why is that? Could they really not find anybody better than the guy who was kicked out of the subforum for repeatedly harassing people, abusing his "staff" position and refusing to abide by the rules of the actual mods? Where do you see that he's a mod? There are no bans from him in the Automatic Ban List thread and he's still listed as a Translator on the other site. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
if you lighten the mood by making jokes it will make our eventual meeting on teamspeak a lot less awkward t.t | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 08 2015 02:50 Ketara wrote: No I mean, Cheep is a mod. Why is that? Could they really not find anybody better than the guy who was kicked out of the subforum for repeatedly harassing people, abusing his "staff" position and refusing to abide by the rules of the actual mods? That was Roffles. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 08 2015 02:50 Scip wrote: So what do you think we need to do in order to integrate muslims better into our society LT? That's one part of it. Hate to be the voice of reason, but it's not a religious thing, it's a socio-economic thing. A large portion of Muslims tend to still live in non-modernized developing countries, therefore their baseline of moral compass tends to be more conservative, and thus extremism tends to be over represented in their community. You can see the same metric take place in more conservative southern states vs the more progressive states in the USA, and how they played out. There's a reason why big city states, and big cities tend to be far more progressive, while rural areas tend to be far more conservative. Similarly a large chunk of the Muslim community has been stuck in 3rd world countries, thus their faith tends to be far more extreme. | ||
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