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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 31 2014 14:42 GMT
#76481
Yeah the way it works is that if you hit 0 hp, you're unconscious and have to do a series of death saving rolls to see if you die (3 failures = death, 3 saves = stable at 0 hp). If you get hit hard enough to end up at (Max HP)* -1, then you just die outright.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 31 2014 15:01 GMT
#76482
On December 31 2014 23:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 23:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 31 2014 23:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 31 2014 22:51 Alaric wrote:
That sounds like a pretty low standard for achievements.


With the way Asmo's dice were rolling against me, and the fact that our cleric didn't take any healing spells, I'm pretty pleased with making it through the session alive.

a cleric not taking any healing spells is probably very accurate for a low ranking cleric. its only through meta-gamey knowledge and combat experience (later on) that a cleric would be taking healing spells, and unless you are a warpriest or priest of a protector/mercy god of some sort you wouldnt have that knowledge and training from the clergy right off the bat.


Clerics have access to their whole spell list and just need to prepare a subset each day. The fact that we were doing a one shot means we were going to be fighting, and so preparing Cure Wounds would have been reasonable. Now, quite potentially he was roleplaying his character and didn't take it because he wouldn't necessarily expect to fight, which is totally legit. I'm just poking fun at Magnus cuz it was hilarious when we realized we had no more healing.

yeah i know how clerics work! but yeah its totally reasonable for an inexperienced adventuring cleric to not pray for healing spells. my bard spells are as non meta gamey as i could do. pretty much just loaded up on the spells that fit his background and personality the best. i'd expect his spellbook to change dramatically over the course of an adventure as his experience leads him to get more..practical? spells for a campaign.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 31 2014 15:01 GMT
#76483
That's one of the things I found weird since reading the player handbook for AD&D2: you don't necessarily get "more skilled" with levels, but much harder to kill just through HP. Even if you're the tiniest whinsy-pansy mage, going from level 1 to 5 means that you can withstand 3 more sword slashes by the same dude before you go down.
Same with stuff like fall damage.

I assume it's for simplication and stuff, I remember another very simplified (it was basically 4 CYOA-sized books for classes, monsters, items/spells and a mini-campaign that also set up the context for a medium isle) RPG where you rolled a dice and added a flat amount, then +1 HP per x levels (every for battling classes, every other for hybrids, and every 3 or 4 levels for squishies). So you started at something like 10 HP if you're playing a Barbarian, you've got 20 by the time you're level 11, and swords still hit you for a flat 4 or 5. So these things still hurt badly, however what you've naturally become better at is parrying (a bunch), dodging (slightly, it's a special reflex roll and reflexes grow super slowly 'cause that also included dodging boulders thrown at you or energy bolts), and hitting stuff.
But your armour and ability not to get hit still did a lot more than sheer HP to tank stuff.

Also spells (both damage and healing) didn't scale in potency, so wounds tended to stick more. I felt the emphasis on not getting hit over having a bunch more HP was a more interesting mechanic.

(Anima has that weird table where you apply a % of your weapon's base damage depending on the difference between your hit roll and the defender's parry/dodge roll, so if you barely succeed you scratch them for 10% damage, and if the difference is enormous you deal 2x-3x the damage because you just plow through their defense and hit something important. I found that a bit more fair too (although crits could be brutal).)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 31 2014 15:18 GMT
#76484
On January 01 2015 00:01 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 23:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 31 2014 23:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 31 2014 23:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 31 2014 22:51 Alaric wrote:
That sounds like a pretty low standard for achievements.


With the way Asmo's dice were rolling against me, and the fact that our cleric didn't take any healing spells, I'm pretty pleased with making it through the session alive.

a cleric not taking any healing spells is probably very accurate for a low ranking cleric. its only through meta-gamey knowledge and combat experience (later on) that a cleric would be taking healing spells, and unless you are a warpriest or priest of a protector/mercy god of some sort you wouldnt have that knowledge and training from the clergy right off the bat.


Clerics have access to their whole spell list and just need to prepare a subset each day. The fact that we were doing a one shot means we were going to be fighting, and so preparing Cure Wounds would have been reasonable. Now, quite potentially he was roleplaying his character and didn't take it because he wouldn't necessarily expect to fight, which is totally legit. I'm just poking fun at Magnus cuz it was hilarious when we realized we had no more healing.

yeah i know how clerics work! but yeah its totally reasonable for an inexperienced adventuring cleric to not pray for healing spells. my bard spells are as non meta gamey as i could do. pretty much just loaded up on the spells that fit his background and personality the best. i'd expect his spellbook to change dramatically over the course of an adventure as his experience leads him to get more..practical? spells for a campaign.


Sure, I did the same for my Bard - spells more for background than "practicality". In my mind, Clerics are just like holy priest dudes who heal and protect the sick/dying/weak/etc, so I always just expect them to have at least one heal spell. Again, nothing against Magnus, I made an apparently unwarranted assumption.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 31 2014 15:28 GMT
#76485
I'll throw out here that Magnus IS a priest of twin gods representing Justice and Vengeance (iirc) so he was very within flavor, mechanics notwithstanding.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 15:30:23
December 31 2014 15:29 GMT
#76486
oh yeah of course. magnus was doing a good job. i guess my experience with the worlds of DnD puts me in the mind that clerics are often more representative of their gods or orders rather than as healers. like priests of lawful good gods probably do that sort of things. but priests of kelemvor for example, who is a god of judging the dead and helping the dead into the world of the dead in forgotten realms, those priests are more likely to be more about protection from evil or smiting undead than healing, as they would focus on guiding the dying to the afterlife rather than prevent them from reaching it by keeping them alive. and undead existing is an affront to their god.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 31 2014 15:56 GMT
#76487
Gotta slow roll them heals doe.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 15:58:47
December 31 2014 15:57 GMT
#76488
*everyone dying*

"sigh, fiiiiiiiiiine I guess I'll heal someone" - Khen-Ta, the scumbag druid
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 16:06:55
December 31 2014 16:04 GMT
#76489
On December 31 2014 21:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 18:30 Scip wrote:
It was raining
HEAVILY raining


I was laughing really hard to myself at how impatient Teut is.


zzz i had to give up after 2 hours and talk to scip and lordtolkien
i understand there was one fight which probably took 30 minutes or something

only dandel had the balls to jump into the hole
seriously what the fuck
"do we hear anything"
"gimmie a perception check d24"
*rolls 24*
"no you still don't hear anything lol"
"except the heavy rain and farting sounds of thunder ofc"
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 31 2014 16:10 GMT
#76490
On January 01 2015 00:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:
*everyone dying*

"sigh, fiiiiiiiiiine I guess I'll heal someone" - Khen-Ta, the scumbag druid

its okay. you have four of five characters that can heal. we have a bard and a ranger who can't cast spells until lvl 2.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5201 Posts
December 31 2014 16:10 GMT
#76491
Last time I'm online before heading into the glory of the New Year.
I wish you all a great time and hopefully not blinded by alcohol by tomorrow.
Let's shitpost even harder next year!
Taxes are for Terrans
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 31 2014 16:14 GMT
#76492
On January 01 2015 00:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:
*everyone dying*

"sigh, fiiiiiiiiiine I guess I'll heal someone" - Khen-Ta, the scumbag druid

Yo dawg, I'm here to make it more difficult for you to get hit than deal with your sadism.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 31 2014 16:14 GMT
#76493
On January 01 2015 01:10 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 00:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:
*everyone dying*

"sigh, fiiiiiiiiiine I guess I'll heal someone" - Khen-Ta, the scumbag druid

its okay. you have four of five characters that can heal. we have a bard and a ranger who can't cast spells until lvl 2.

I don't think our ranger is playing
I dunno it is only a one-shot though. I might be fine simply testing the limits of my character and the possible encounter strength.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 16:14:50
December 31 2014 16:14 GMT
#76494
On January 01 2015 01:04 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 21:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 31 2014 18:30 Scip wrote:
It was raining
HEAVILY raining


I was laughing really hard to myself at how impatient Teut is.


zzz i had to give up after 2 hours and talk to scip and lordtolkien
i understand there was one fight which probably took 30 minutes or something

only dandel had the balls to jump into the hole
seriously what the fuck
"do we hear anything"
"gimmie a perception check d24"
*rolls 24*
"no you still don't hear anything lol"
"except the heavy rain and farting sounds of thunder ofc"


lol, yeah, it's a process

Obviously, as players, we all knew we had to go down the hole. But as characters? We walked into this ghost town, it's raining heavily, the guy we escorted and his horses have disappeared, and we find this hole with a pulsating, blue light. You're damn fucking right I'm gonna be cautious approaching that hole.

On January 01 2015 01:14 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 00:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:
*everyone dying*

"sigh, fiiiiiiiiiine I guess I'll heal someone" - Khen-Ta, the scumbag druid

Yo dawg, I'm here to make it more difficult for you to get hit than deal with your sadism.


I WAS INSPIRING EVERYONE AND NO ONE USED IT T_T
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 31 2014 16:14 GMT
#76495
On January 01 2015 01:10 Uldridge wrote:
Last time I'm online before heading into the glory of the New Year.
I wish you all a great time and hopefully not blinded by alcohol by tomorrow.
Let's shitpost even harder next year!

<3 you babby.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 31 2014 16:16 GMT
#76496
On January 01 2015 01:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 01:04 Slayer91 wrote:
On December 31 2014 21:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 31 2014 18:30 Scip wrote:
It was raining
HEAVILY raining


I was laughing really hard to myself at how impatient Teut is.


zzz i had to give up after 2 hours and talk to scip and lordtolkien
i understand there was one fight which probably took 30 minutes or something

only dandel had the balls to jump into the hole
seriously what the fuck
"do we hear anything"
"gimmie a perception check d24"
*rolls 24*
"no you still don't hear anything lol"
"except the heavy rain and farting sounds of thunder ofc"


lol, yeah, it's a process

Obviously, as players, we all knew we had to go down the hole. But as characters? We walked into this ghost town, it's raining heavily, the guy we escorted and his horses have disappeared, and we find this hole with a pulsating, blue light. You're damn fucking right I'm gonna be cautious approaching that hole.

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 01:14 Gahlo wrote:
On January 01 2015 00:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:
*everyone dying*

"sigh, fiiiiiiiiiine I guess I'll heal someone" - Khen-Ta, the scumbag druid

Yo dawg, I'm here to make it more difficult for you to get hit than deal with your sadism.


I WAS INSPIRING EVERYONE AND NO ONE USED IT T_T

You inspired me to lower you down the hole, when I weigh probably like twice what you do and could easily lift you over my head. Have a little faith, brohame.
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 31 2014 16:18 GMT
#76497
On January 01 2015 01:16 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 01:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On January 01 2015 01:04 Slayer91 wrote:
On December 31 2014 21:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 31 2014 18:30 Scip wrote:
It was raining
HEAVILY raining


I was laughing really hard to myself at how impatient Teut is.


zzz i had to give up after 2 hours and talk to scip and lordtolkien
i understand there was one fight which probably took 30 minutes or something

only dandel had the balls to jump into the hole
seriously what the fuck
"do we hear anything"
"gimmie a perception check d24"
*rolls 24*
"no you still don't hear anything lol"
"except the heavy rain and farting sounds of thunder ofc"


lol, yeah, it's a process

Obviously, as players, we all knew we had to go down the hole. But as characters? We walked into this ghost town, it's raining heavily, the guy we escorted and his horses have disappeared, and we find this hole with a pulsating, blue light. You're damn fucking right I'm gonna be cautious approaching that hole.

On January 01 2015 01:14 Gahlo wrote:
On January 01 2015 00:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:
*everyone dying*

"sigh, fiiiiiiiiiine I guess I'll heal someone" - Khen-Ta, the scumbag druid

Yo dawg, I'm here to make it more difficult for you to get hit than deal with your sadism.


I WAS INSPIRING EVERYONE AND NO ONE USED IT T_T

You inspired me to lower you down the hole, when I weigh probably like twice what you do and could easily lift you over my head. Have a little faith, brohame.

Bardy go down the hoooooooooooooooooole.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 16:20:59
December 31 2014 16:20 GMT
#76498
On January 01 2015 01:16 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 01:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On January 01 2015 01:04 Slayer91 wrote:
On December 31 2014 21:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 31 2014 18:30 Scip wrote:
It was raining
HEAVILY raining


I was laughing really hard to myself at how impatient Teut is.


zzz i had to give up after 2 hours and talk to scip and lordtolkien
i understand there was one fight which probably took 30 minutes or something

only dandel had the balls to jump into the hole
seriously what the fuck
"do we hear anything"
"gimmie a perception check d24"
*rolls 24*
"no you still don't hear anything lol"
"except the heavy rain and farting sounds of thunder ofc"


lol, yeah, it's a process

Obviously, as players, we all knew we had to go down the hole. But as characters? We walked into this ghost town, it's raining heavily, the guy we escorted and his horses have disappeared, and we find this hole with a pulsating, blue light. You're damn fucking right I'm gonna be cautious approaching that hole.

On January 01 2015 01:14 Gahlo wrote:
On January 01 2015 00:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:
*everyone dying*

"sigh, fiiiiiiiiiine I guess I'll heal someone" - Khen-Ta, the scumbag druid

Yo dawg, I'm here to make it more difficult for you to get hit than deal with your sadism.


I WAS INSPIRING EVERYONE AND NO ONE USED IT T_T

You inspired me to lower you down the hole, when I weigh probably like twice what you do and could easily lift you over my head. Have a little faith, brohame.


ehhhh my character weighs like 170-180, and if something had gone seriously wrong on both of our checks, the fall could have come close to killing me lol
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 31 2014 16:20 GMT
#76499
Also, as far as Perception rolls go, players are entitled to make any rolls they want, even when there is no possibility to hear anything.

A Detect Evil would've worked wonders near the original hut. Pity it doesn't go through feet of solid ground or you would've been all "WHAT'S ALL THIS EVIL UNDER US?!"
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 16:40:37
December 31 2014 16:23 GMT
#76500
So asmo, fellsmark is like innsmouth but with skeleton rather than fish ya?
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