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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
November 15 2014 15:30 GMT
#68841
Generally the first time to start with in DMing is determining which bucket the people you're DMing fall under and crafting the entire campaign to that end. The distinction between whether the players are there for the casual "fun story, dumb roleplay, and generally lighthearted stuff" or the "tryhard minimaxing game mechanics" people.

For the first group the focus of the campaign would usually be trying to present interesting environments, stories, and situations that allow the players freedom while you as a DM should spend more time in world-building, character creation, and the ability to have a general setup to allow the players to do whatever they want to do within the constraints of your world.

The second group will be far more interested in challenging, unique combat scenarios that are well thought out and believable. Here encounter design is paramount with the story serving mostly to tie together various interesting encounters. Play this as a set piece battle "against the players"
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 15:37:19
November 15 2014 15:37 GMT
#68842
Group is probably the former category.

Edit: hi Wave.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 15:47:48
November 15 2014 15:44 GMT
#68843
On November 15 2014 20:00 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2014 17:29 Sufficiency wrote:
On November 15 2014 15:40 sung_moon wrote:
On November 15 2014 09:55 Sufficiency wrote:
On November 14 2014 13:48 sung_moon wrote:
Fire Emblem Sacred Stones. Yay or nay?

Hector hard mode is pretty fun. Serra good waifu, although Priscilla probably better.


Sacred Stone is OK, but if you played 7 you will find it too easy. It's also VERY similar to 7.

Why not try Path of Radiance?


I've been playing a GBA emulator on my phone. Could try and look for a DS emulator for my phone (doubt it) lol. So that pretty much means only FE 6/7/8. If anyone has any good suggestions for other good GBA games besides Fire Emblem's and Final Fantasy's, I'm all ears.

Also been reading a crapton of Warcraft books/comics after the announcement of the live action movie.

Finished "Blood and Honor" (my niqqa Tirion), "Lord of Clans", and "Ashbringer". Got the trilogy about the NE's vs. Legion next, and "The Last Guardian" also. Personally anticipating when I read LG since that's what the live action movie will be about it seems.


You can consider FE6, or try your mileage on FE8.

Also have you played Yggdra Union?

I personally found 6 to be really frustrating to play. It has some of the worst map design in the series, definitely the worst lord in the series, and as the first game in the series to use the 2-RN RNG, they didn't scale units well to the new RNG and low-hit units are way worse than they should be on paper (part of what ruins a lot of the Axe users in the game).



That's true. 6 is pretty frustrating to play. But 8 is pretty pointless unless you are a die hard fan of the franchise. 8 basically has no redeeming quality at all (compared to 7), whereas 6 is at least connected to 7.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 15:54:43
November 15 2014 15:48 GMT
#68844
On November 16 2014 00:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
OH LOOK WHO SHOWS UP ONLY WHEN HE WANTS SOMETHING

Asmo best person to ask imo.
Not like he's busy writing anything.


Fite me bambi

Don't even front

On November 16 2014 00:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I recall some of you talking about D&D before so I might as well throw this out here and see what I get.
How do you DM?

I haven't played D&D since like middle school, where my friends and I really didn't know wtf we were doing. But my usual board game night people are interested but also egging to have me be the DM and I really don't know where to start. Help of any form is much appreciated. Arigato~


The role of a DM is to empower the players to do what they think would be cool and have fun (while still having fun themselves). As Kupons says, this means figuring out if your group is more "I am Galstaff, Wizard of Light," "I have a +9 Knife of Slaying Ogres," or "Roll to see if I'm getting drunk." Then you tailor what you do in the campaign to that. If that means constant combat that's technical and challenging, make compelling encounters and go light on story/description. Maybe that means lots of mystery and intrigue (which is super difficult, but also fun). Maybe that just means being silly and random and that can fit in a world too. /r/rpg often has a lot of good DM stories and recommendations, as do shows like RollPlay (you can learn a lot from Neal, regardless of whether or not you're a HUGE fan of his style) and Critical Hit (podcast I've heard is good).

One of the best things I've heard is that a DM is a worldbuilder first, storyteller second, and rules arbiter third. I interpret this to mean that you flesh out a sandbox for players to do whatever they like (regardless of the rules: go for awesomeness first), to tell a compelling story (whatever that means for your players, see above), and then to help with the game mechanics overall.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 15:57:29
November 15 2014 15:55 GMT
#68845
On November 16 2014 00:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I recall some of you talking about D&D before so I might as well throw this out here and see what I get.
How do you DM?

I haven't played D&D since like middle school, where my friends and I really didn't know wtf we were doing. But my usual board game night people are interested but also egging to have me be the DM and I really don't know where to start. Help of any form is much appreciated. Arigato~

If it's for a board game group, you may be better off doing the pre-con adventures like the Starter Set.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 15 2014 16:02 GMT
#68846
Think im just going to cash out for naxx wings at this point, i need dem cards T.T
Useless wet fish.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 15 2014 16:08 GMT
#68847
Soniv did that and doesn't regret apparently.
Hai neo
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 15 2014 16:19 GMT
#68848
On November 16 2014 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Soniv did that and doesn't regret apparently.
Hai neo


yup, totally worth, no way was I farming 2100g for the last 3 wings
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 15 2014 16:22 GMT
#68849
Come to think of it, is the TL campaign gonna be group one or two?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 15 2014 16:24 GMT
#68850
On November 16 2014 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Soniv did that and doesn't regret apparently.
Hai neo


Think Yango worked out it was really efficient to buy it instead of packs.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 15 2014 16:26 GMT
#68851
How are so many of you bottlenecked for gold? I think I'm a very casual HS player (prob 80% non-arena, 20% arena) and I've racked up ~3K gold atm ready for G&G. I didn't spend any monies for Naxx either. I just do dailies and make a net gold gain on the majority of my arena runs.
Are a lot of you losing gold on arena?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 15 2014 16:27 GMT
#68852
On November 16 2014 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Come to think of it, is the TL campaign gonna be group one or two?


Depends on what folk want. So it depends on the folk.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 16:31:24
November 15 2014 16:29 GMT
#68853
On November 16 2014 01:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
How are so many of you bottlenecked for gold? I think I'm a very casual HS player (prob 80% non-arena, 20% arena) and I've racked up ~3K gold atm ready for G&G. I didn't spend any monies for Naxx either. I just do dailies and make a net gold gain on the majority of my arena runs.
Are a lot of you losing gold on arena?


Well, I play very on and off, and so I just haven't played in a long time, and even when I did, I didn't play for that long. So I never really accumulated any amount of gold
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 15 2014 16:34 GMT
#68854
On November 16 2014 01:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
How are so many of you bottlenecked for gold? I think I'm a very casual HS player (prob 80% non-arena, 20% arena) and I've racked up ~3K gold atm ready for G&G. I didn't spend any monies for Naxx either. I just do dailies and make a net gold gain on the majority of my arena runs.
Are a lot of you losing gold on arena?


I buy packs. I lose in Arena whenever I play but started saving up since blizzcon and at 700 gold. I can get up to rank 5 in constructed but suck so bad at Arena. Maybe I'm just bad at this game.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 15 2014 16:59 GMT
#68855
went 7-3 with that mage list wave
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 17:17:29
November 15 2014 17:16 GMT
#68856
Nice gj.
Yeah lately my arena runs have been better but I'm not completely consistent so I guess I just won't play arena until Gg drops, and I'll just save up gold (have 1.1k atm) from quests and constructed. I was real lazy about doing dailies for over a month too so I could have had way more saved up. Probably shouldn't have spent the 900 dust I had as well but I really needed the cards I made (2nd prep /lore/spirit wolf)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
November 15 2014 17:24 GMT
#68857
Anyone want to D3 HC
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 17:36:20
November 15 2014 17:25 GMT
#68858
what's a good replacement for VanCleef in miracle rogue?

edit - holy shit this deck is so fun - too bad it's kinda meh vs hunter
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 15 2014 17:49 GMT
#68859
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 15 2014 17:55 GMT
#68860
On November 16 2014 00:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I recall some of you talking about D&D before so I might as well throw this out here and see what I get.
How do you DM?

I haven't played D&D since like middle school, where my friends and I really didn't know wtf we were doing. But my usual board game night people are interested but also egging to have me be the DM and I really don't know where to start. Help of any form is much appreciated. Arigato~

DMing a campaign is about being a storyteller - but not in the traditional sense. You can't just railroad your players from one story point to the next (though some might not mind it if they just enjoy combat and dungeon crawling). Your goal is to create a place for the players to forge their own story. You give them challenges and force them to progress or die, but in the end you're not a narrator, you're the goal. You set up the board, you set up the world, it's up to them to make their place in it and force the story to go forward. So while it is your story, it's more that you're uncovering it and changing it as they go forward, more than you are just telling it to them.

The rest of the minutiae is secondary. Rules can be bent, numbers can be handwaved. If your players are challenged but having a good time, and so are you, you're doing it right.
It's your boy Guzma!
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