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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 09 2014 00:59 GMT
#67641
Also, Chaos is probably closer to being LoL's Elephant in the Room, given how much of Korea's most successful first-generation pros were ex-Chaos players.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 09 2014 01:01 GMT
#67642
On November 09 2014 09:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 09:57 Fusilero wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:56 JBright wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:52 Gahlo wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Just me or casters sounds so EG biased?

Casters always want more games. Casters always want more hype. A 3-0 stomp isn't exciting or entertaining for the loser fans. As a result, the casters will try to keep it positive for the losing side fans. The problem is that these guys are going full LCS and are afraid to criticize.

That is, assuming they know what they're talking about.

On November 09 2014 09:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:51 TheYango wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:57 UmberBane wrote:
Lol just saw all these familiar LoL names in the HotS tournament, but I see it's already being well discussed. Not sure if having these names there legitimizes or de-legitimizes competitive HotS.

LoL can be HotS' elephant in the room.

Is dota LoL's elephant in the room?

I don't recall anybody of note that came from DotA/HoN and was a major impact player.


I think the casters also know the EG team better. They played in a few tournaments but I don't know if the C9 squad did anything before the Blizzcon invite.

Iirc the small heroes of the storm community complained that only EG was a "proper" heroes team at blizzcon

got pooped on by a bunch of 3rd rate LoL players.


To be somewhat fair(I still think it's hilarious, and that the competition is infantile and the idea that it's 'already eSports' is fucking hilarious), the drafts were apparently done before any games were played. So EG, the 'real' team, never had a chance to react to C9s draft after seeing it in game.

Still lollin though.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-09 01:02:30
November 09 2014 01:02 GMT
#67643
On November 09 2014 10:01 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 09:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:57 Fusilero wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:56 JBright wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:52 Gahlo wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Just me or casters sounds so EG biased?

Casters always want more games. Casters always want more hype. A 3-0 stomp isn't exciting or entertaining for the loser fans. As a result, the casters will try to keep it positive for the losing side fans. The problem is that these guys are going full LCS and are afraid to criticize.

That is, assuming they know what they're talking about.

On November 09 2014 09:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:51 TheYango wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:57 UmberBane wrote:
Lol just saw all these familiar LoL names in the HotS tournament, but I see it's already being well discussed. Not sure if having these names there legitimizes or de-legitimizes competitive HotS.

LoL can be HotS' elephant in the room.

Is dota LoL's elephant in the room?

I don't recall anybody of note that came from DotA/HoN and was a major impact player.


I think the casters also know the EG team better. They played in a few tournaments but I don't know if the C9 squad did anything before the Blizzcon invite.

Iirc the small heroes of the storm community complained that only EG was a "proper" heroes team at blizzcon

got pooped on by a bunch of 3rd rate LoL players.


To be somewhat fair(I still think it's hilarious, and that the competition is infantile and the idea that it's 'already eSports' is fucking hilarious), the drafts were apparently done before any games were played. So EG, the 'real' team, never had a chance to react to C9s draft after seeing it in game.

Still lollin though.

wait, wat, they didn't draft between games? holy shit, that's full retard.
liftlift > tsm
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
November 09 2014 01:02 GMT
#67644
Wasn't the elephant moreso aimed at the KeSPA training regiment and competitiveness in comparison to eSF rather than BW vs SC2 as games? So in that case the elephants for both SC2 and LoL might have been identical.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 09 2014 01:03 GMT
#67645
On November 09 2014 09:59 TheYango wrote:
Also, Chaos is probably closer to being LoL's Elephant in the Room, given how much of Korea's most successful first-generation pros were ex-Chaos players.


I'd be willing to be a very large amount of SEA/Chinese players had SOME DotA background, even if it wasn't nearly pro level. It can't be proven so I'm not going to harp on it and write an article about it(because it's also silly), but I could totally see that being a thing.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-09 01:05:07
November 09 2014 01:04 GMT
#67646
TL: hey guys, we're gunna sport a new Heroes team, cuz LoL too casual
*tourney comes around*
tourney stomped by 3rd rate LoL players that were all stuck in the amateur scene of LoL.
liftlift > tsm
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
November 09 2014 01:05 GMT
#67647
On November 09 2014 10:04 wei2coolman wrote:
TL: hey guys, we're gunna sport a new Heroes team, cuz LoL too casual
*tourney comes around*
tourney stomped by 3rd rate LoL players that were all stuck in the amateur scene of LoL.


Zuna was a premier LCS caliber player!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 09 2014 01:06 GMT
#67648
On November 09 2014 10:03 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 09:59 TheYango wrote:
Also, Chaos is probably closer to being LoL's Elephant in the Room, given how much of Korea's most successful first-generation pros were ex-Chaos players.


I'd be willing to be a very large amount of SEA/Chinese players had SOME DotA background, even if it wasn't nearly pro level. It can't be proven so I'm not going to harp on it and write an article about it(because it's also silly), but I could totally see that being a thing.

I know that hyhy, chawy and tofuboi came from team scythe in dota and I think some of the Vietnamese players (I wanna say archie, safety and nixwater at least) were dota players as well
Glorious SEA doto
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-09 01:07:51
November 09 2014 01:06 GMT
#67649
I think it's a safe assumption to make that LoL pros from any country played either DotA or HoN beforehand. The Koreans probably played it all including Chaos

Also crusnik is a god:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:Crusnik/2014 WCS Global Finals Contest?oldid=794682
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
November 09 2014 01:08 GMT
#67650
Well its still in alpha and it was called exhibition tourament. They just wanted some big e-sports names to promote their game. Nothing wrong with that, but lets not take this too serious.

Watching it for the 1st time I think it def has potential. Lots of action from the get go. Though I prob wont play it, since laning phase is my fav part of LoL. Also I feel you really need a 5 man team to experience the depth in teamplay unlike LoL.

UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
November 09 2014 01:09 GMT
#67651
On November 09 2014 10:06 ketchup wrote:
I think it's a safe assumption to make that LoL pros from any country played either DotA or HoN beforehand. The Koreans probably played it all including Chaos


Many Koreans also have BW backgrounds . Some few pro, some semi pro, but I think most Korean gamers played that at one point in time on a fun level.
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-09 01:10:34
November 09 2014 01:09 GMT
#67652
I am apparently going to win the TL WCS bracket contest somehow.

I should clarify, I haven't even watched WCS in months, but, in Life we trust
Steam: rook492
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 09 2014 01:09 GMT
#67653
Screw all your MOBAs, all the true MOBA players came from Starcraft 2 Dota, Storm of the Imperial Sanctum (presently named Aeon of Strife).
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 09 2014 01:09 GMT
#67654
I know leopard was a practice partner and ggoong/watch obviously but I can't think of anyone else from BW
Glorious SEA doto
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-09 01:13:13
November 09 2014 01:10 GMT
#67655
On November 09 2014 10:09 Fusilero wrote:
I know leopard was a practice partner and ggoong/watch obviously but I can't think of anyone else from BW


Piglet and Mata were playing in courages. I think Piglet even won a courage and was waiting to be drafted.
At OGN Spring where Ozone won vs Blaze, Homme told us about winning SC tournaments very early on.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 09 2014 01:11 GMT
#67656
This caster desk has the kind of Plott that I like.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
November 09 2014 01:12 GMT
#67657
Is Moonglade sitting down? :D
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
November 09 2014 01:13 GMT
#67658
On November 09 2014 10:09 Crusnik wrote:
I am apparently going to win the TL WCS bracket contest somehow.

I should clarify, I haven't even watched WCS in months, but, in Life we trust


Pretty sure you already won. You are 8 points ahead of 2nd place, and are the only one who actually predicted mma vs life:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=Special:BracketContest&module=ranking&id=10
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 09 2014 01:14 GMT
#67659
On November 09 2014 10:09 Crusnik wrote:
I am apparently going to win the TL WCS bracket contest somehow.

I should clarify, I haven't even watched WCS in months, but, in Life we trust

How do you think I ended up BW liquibet winner?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 09 2014 01:14 GMT
#67660
Guy on the far right looks like a Deficio/Quickshot lovechild. Left side looks like a ventriloquist and his dummy.
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