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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-31 23:18:50
July 31 2014 23:17 GMT
#53101
On August 01 2014 07:32 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 07:15 Crusnik wrote:
On August 01 2014 07:08 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 01 2014 06:23 ketchup wrote:
On July 31 2014 18:21 PrinceXizor wrote:
Hmmm the more I think about it, the more i like the labor system in archeage. it gives crafters value. If i'm able to make a 1000 labor point staff thats better than pretty much everything you can find, but i know that 1000 labor points costs me 17 hours of time in game to accrue, i can charge someone more for it. or if i'm able to build and furnish someones house for 2k labor points i can charge significant amounts of money, including real money currency.


The labor system is okay for the most part, but there needs to be some tweaking to the system. I feel like there is a huge advantage for paying customers in terms of time/efficiency of LP usage. A free player in archeage will get 5 LP regen per 5 minutes online, and no labor regen while offline. LP regen for the patrons is 10 per 5 online and 5 per 5 offline. They can pretend that this is to combat botting, but it's fairly harsh for f2p players. There are also labor pots in the marketplace which gives someone wanting to buy them a pretty huge advantage(restores 1000 labor with 12h cooldown, but no restrictions on account yet). The overall difference between a free player and a paying player is pretty huge. I think they said they read these comments, and are discussing things with XLGames. I hope things change, because it's fairly difficult to feel the freedom I think is needed for games like this.

From my experience, it's too low for f2p players. For example, those coinpurse drop you get from mobs increase in LP cost for identification the later you go. Right now I have like 198 of the "noble's coinpurse", each costing me 4 lp to unlock them. Equipment loot dropping also seems very low. I have gotten only 1 item from a regular mob in the game so far. I am level 39. In some ways, it makes crafting much more important, but in other ways, it's frustratingly so because there's no way I can generate enough LP to upgrade by crafting/ keep up with the paying players.

also PX what server/name on archeage if you are still playing?

i added your puhctek on the server you played on. i've been loggin in for a few quests and logging back out. each time trying to figure out how to start crafting and kind of floundering.

This religious discussion makes me really nervous, not because of the topic persay, but i live in the south, having any non-zealous religious ideas is fairly looked down upon. now in florida i'm more northern than the south of Georgia and the area, culturally, but it still seeps in. i've been chastised in a bar before for saying "god damn" by a group of people who then tried to convert me. in a 21+ bar. if it was a family restaurant i deserve to be chastised. but seriously.


Welcome to the Bible Belt. Up here in the North, around where I live, we can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Catholic, but no one talks about religion much, I think. My parent's and their friend's are religious, but I'm not, I'm more a of a Deist/Agnostic. Something or someone is out there, but I don't really care that much about it.


Maybe it's because where I lived in Florida but I never had this kind of experience, pretty secularishy stuff.


It's funny, because coming from Massachusetts and now working in biological field science my experience is pretty much the same as PX's except it's the other way around and perhaps less convert-y. People on the internet generally aren't kind to religion either, especially on youtube and reddit. I was extremely surprised to find anyone here discussing it in a positive manner, although I do think of you guys better than reddit. <3
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
July 31 2014 23:18 GMT
#53102
So, this thought hit me, a friend that I'm not really fond of (I hate his guts, we always argue, and he even muted me on Vent), but he complained about 2GD during TI, but I want to hear his reactions if he watches The Summit 2 in December and they bring back the tub interview.

Merlini and maelk had a moment. There was a bubble bath, wine, and an interview. The bromance was strong.
Steam: rook492
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
July 31 2014 23:19 GMT
#53103
Internet seems to pull out the most extreme of peoples. *shrug*
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-31 23:21:49
July 31 2014 23:20 GMT
#53104
On August 01 2014 07:38 ketchup wrote:

I don't see you on my list sadly. The friends list seems to be a one way thing. I've mostly been questing/grinding as well because everything else involves a lot of labor + there's a bunch of things you can do. I want to hit 50, but I kind of get distracted by things. For example, I just used my rowboat to go across the sea. I went from Haranya to Nuia, came across an island(Thunder Isle?) that was run by a guild or something. They let me go explore around the island while watching me(I assume they thought I would steal their stuff or something), then I left without dying(got lucky). Pretty cool experience. haha. See screenshot if interested of random middle of the sea at night shot on the rowboat leaving that island. The graphics in this game are just beautiful to look at when doing things like gliding, fishing, sailing your boat, etc.

+ Show Spoiler +
My graphic settings are probably on the lower side, so it'll probably be much better if I wanted to max all the quality options. Oh well. It was fun at least.

http://i.imgur.com/OmoYXPY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/R2U342l.jpg

Hm. i will legitimately enjoy this game upon release, but i can't figure out where to go or what to do to start crafting a lot so i'm gonna wait on it for now. It'll be fun if i have a group i can play it with and we try to go build a town together or something.

On August 01 2014 08:18 Crusnik wrote:
So, this thought hit me, a friend that I'm not really fond of (I hate his guts, we always argue, and he even muted me on Vent), but he complained about 2GD during TI, but I want to hear his reactions if he watches The Summit 2 in December and they bring back the tub interview.

Merlini and maelk had a moment. There was a bubble bath, wine, and an interview. The bromance was strong.

I have no idea why, but maelk reminds me of like a 1790's 1800's french gentleman with the way he handles himself it makes little to do sense.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
July 31 2014 23:35 GMT
#53105
On August 01 2014 06:43 Sufficiency wrote:
There is a FF14 free trial. Woot.


I <3 this game. Too bad I'm still not level 50. T_T No commitment GG.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-01 00:17:58
August 01 2014 00:17 GMT
#53106
I heard that FF14 is good now but not really interested in it, it'll always be that game that was so bad square literally apologised for to me.
Glorious SEA doto
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 01 2014 00:22 GMT
#53107
On August 01 2014 09:17 Fusilero wrote:
I heard that FF14 is good now but not really interested in it, it'll always be that game that was so bad square literally apologised for to me.


Believe me that the original is no reason to scoff at it. It's a completely different game now and I enjoy it very much even though I suck at putting in the time so much. It doesn't even require that much time but I'm so bad at playing games consistently.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 01 2014 00:31 GMT
#53108
On August 01 2014 07:07 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 06:54 red_ wrote:
On August 01 2014 06:21 ComaDose wrote:

if some of the bible isn't "the word of god" then i feel like the rest of it loses some credibility. does everyone get to pick and choose which parts are really gods wishes?


I'm not sure what you're so confused about here. The Bible is very specific about which things are decreed by God himself, as told by the prophets. Those are the parts that are 'the word of God.'

Even if you think of the Bible as a fictional story about a mythos, it should still be pretty clear that the God of this mythos is not in agreement with the laws of all of the kings and rulers of the lands. For example, Nebuchadnezzar II famously decrees after witnessing the power of God that anyone found denouncing or making accusations against him would be mutilated and have their homes destroyed. That is his law, not God's law. I'm not sure how that removes credibility(whatever that means to you with regards to the Bible and religion in general), since it is entirely logical and consistent.

cause the bible said that it was all written by those moved by the holy spirit(god) and is the message of god. but i guess if you don't have to believe that part you don't have to believe any of it which is why i thought it lost credibility. is the answer that modern christians pick and choose which parts of the holy book are relevant? did someone outline all the sections that they have to follow and get to ignore or is it a person to person basis.

i mean to ask too to clarify that the bible is in fact the basis of the religion.


You're like moving the goalpost bigtime here. You asked about what was 'the word of god' with regard to contradictory laws/rules, we answered. You are meant to 'believe' in all of the Bible in its entirety, but that doesn't change that only certain parts within are 'the word of God' especially with regards to his law/rules vs the laws of man and its individual rulers and lawmakers. There is no contradiction there.

Every religion that follows the Bible is meant to follow EVERY law of God, any individuality of the breakdowns of Christianity are born of individuals and their thoughts on what would be best for their followers. The LDS church is a prime example, as they have rules that are their own and even within the church are not decreed as commandments from the lord, but are upheld as strict expectations for its members because the prophets believe the rules encourage the best possible life for maintaining a connection with God, ending in eternal life spent in Heaven.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-01 00:43:07
August 01 2014 00:41 GMT
#53109
On August 01 2014 09:17 Fusilero wrote:
I heard that FF14 is good now but not really interested in it, it'll always be that game that was so bad square literally apologised for to me.

FF14 is the WoW sequel i never knew I wanted

asmo what level are you now? If you're close to 50 you should be doing some of the 8 man stuff at 45+
Bronze player stuck in platinum
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 01 2014 00:47 GMT
#53110
On August 01 2014 09:41 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 09:17 Fusilero wrote:
I heard that FF14 is good now but not really interested in it, it'll always be that game that was so bad square literally apologised for to me.

FF14 is the WoW sequel i never knew I wanted

asmo what level are you now? If you're close to 50 you should be doing some of the 8 man stuff at 45+


I'm pathetically at 43 on my main. All my friends who started after me are already at 50 with AT LEAST on job (some with two). Hopefully I'll get 50 soonish and then I can start rolling through group stuff wiff meh buddehz.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 01 2014 00:49 GMT
#53111
Here you go guys, let's get back to the important conversations, like Pokemon and female streamers.

http://www.twitch.tv/mimilegend
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 01 2014 00:51 GMT
#53112
On August 01 2014 09:31 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 07:07 ComaDose wrote:
On August 01 2014 06:54 red_ wrote:
On August 01 2014 06:21 ComaDose wrote:

if some of the bible isn't "the word of god" then i feel like the rest of it loses some credibility. does everyone get to pick and choose which parts are really gods wishes?


I'm not sure what you're so confused about here. The Bible is very specific about which things are decreed by God himself, as told by the prophets. Those are the parts that are 'the word of God.'

Even if you think of the Bible as a fictional story about a mythos, it should still be pretty clear that the God of this mythos is not in agreement with the laws of all of the kings and rulers of the lands. For example, Nebuchadnezzar II famously decrees after witnessing the power of God that anyone found denouncing or making accusations against him would be mutilated and have their homes destroyed. That is his law, not God's law. I'm not sure how that removes credibility(whatever that means to you with regards to the Bible and religion in general), since it is entirely logical and consistent.

cause the bible said that it was all written by those moved by the holy spirit(god) and is the message of god. but i guess if you don't have to believe that part you don't have to believe any of it which is why i thought it lost credibility. is the answer that modern christians pick and choose which parts of the holy book are relevant? did someone outline all the sections that they have to follow and get to ignore or is it a person to person basis.

i mean to ask too to clarify that the bible is in fact the basis of the religion.


You're like moving the goalpost bigtime here. You asked about what was 'the word of god' with regard to contradictory laws/rules, we answered. You are meant to 'believe' in all of the Bible in its entirety, but that doesn't change that only certain parts within are 'the word of God' especially with regards to his law/rules vs the laws of man and its individual rulers and lawmakers. There is no contradiction there.

Every religion that follows the Bible is meant to follow EVERY law of God, any individuality of the breakdowns of Christianity are born of individuals and their thoughts on what would be best for their followers. The LDS church is a prime example, as they have rules that are their own and even within the church are not decreed as commandments from the lord, but are upheld as strict expectations for its members because the prophets believe the rules encourage the best possible life for maintaining a connection with God, ending in eternal life spent in Heaven.

I understand what you mean, i wasn't try to score a goal. It just seems like there are a lot of parts that don't count and parts that people use in arguments to try and make law now. that's a bit of an extreme example. I know its different for everyone too but that book, especially the old testament, is overhyped.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 01 2014 00:53 GMT
#53113
God i transitioned so fast from expensive calzones to cost efficient foods. lol
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 01 2014 00:59 GMT
#53114
On August 01 2014 09:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 09:41 Nos- wrote:
On August 01 2014 09:17 Fusilero wrote:
I heard that FF14 is good now but not really interested in it, it'll always be that game that was so bad square literally apologised for to me.

FF14 is the WoW sequel i never knew I wanted

asmo what level are you now? If you're close to 50 you should be doing some of the 8 man stuff at 45+


I'm pathetically at 43 on my main. All my friends who started after me are already at 50 with AT LEAST on job (some with two). Hopefully I'll get 50 soonish and then I can start rolling through group stuff wiff meh buddehz.

i got level 50 on mining and then i quit

my combat class was only 37 or something, haha

i am the worst 14 player
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
August 01 2014 00:59 GMT
#53115
On August 01 2014 09:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Here you go guys, let's get back to the important conversations, like Pokemon and female streamers.

http://www.twitch.tv/mimilegend


I'm releasing my modest gardevoir now..
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 01 2014 01:15 GMT
#53116
On August 01 2014 09:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Here you go guys, let's get back to the important conversations, like Pokemon and female streamers.

http://www.twitch.tv/mimilegend


I'm not sure which conversation you wanted as a result of this, but ya she's attractive. She was offline though so I have no idea if she's the prototype 'gurl gamer,' although the cosplay choices do lean me towards thinking that she is(stereotypes and whatnot).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-01 01:21:40
August 01 2014 01:21 GMT
#53117
So... has anyone watched Zankyou no terror? my friend told me to watch it and it seems interesting so far. but there are only 4 episodes??? i dunno what that means. it doesn't seem to come to a conclusion after 4. :/
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
August 01 2014 01:35 GMT
#53118
On August 01 2014 09:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 09:41 Nos- wrote:
On August 01 2014 09:17 Fusilero wrote:
I heard that FF14 is good now but not really interested in it, it'll always be that game that was so bad square literally apologised for to me.

FF14 is the WoW sequel i never knew I wanted

asmo what level are you now? If you're close to 50 you should be doing some of the 8 man stuff at 45+


I'm pathetically at 43 on my main. All my friends who started after me are already at 50 with AT LEAST on job (some with two). Hopefully I'll get 50 soonish and then I can start rolling through group stuff wiff meh buddehz.

the last bit from 45~ to 50 is a bit of a grind, you're gonna be grinding some dungeons and main story quests and that stuff takes a while. End game raids so worth though!
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-01 01:39:07
August 01 2014 01:38 GMT
#53119
On August 01 2014 09:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 09:41 Nos- wrote:
On August 01 2014 09:17 Fusilero wrote:
I heard that FF14 is good now but not really interested in it, it'll always be that game that was so bad square literally apologised for to me.

FF14 is the WoW sequel i never knew I wanted

asmo what level are you now? If you're close to 50 you should be doing some of the 8 man stuff at 45+


I'm pathetically at 43 on my main. All my friends who started after me are already at 50 with AT LEAST on job (some with two). Hopefully I'll get 50 soonish and then I can start rolling through group stuff wiff meh buddehz.


At the end I might go play some FF14.

Not sure where this free trial is. I saw it on reddit but can't find the link anymore. Oh well. If there is actually one I'd give it a shot for sure.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 01 2014 01:40 GMT
#53120
By the way I absolutely hate Archeage. Clearly the game is not made well and it's really badly optimized. Grinding is a pain because everything is tab targetting so you just press a few buttons (as far as I can tell, there are combos, which basically means press a set of buttons in a certain order).
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