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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 04 2013 15:24 GMT
#3781
wow that rabbit hole goes deep
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 04 2013 15:24 GMT
#3782
I'm on a camping retreat for a student organization so...

Oh who am I kidding, I was in charge of it so I got a nice luxury cabin with wifi, plus its a bunch of Asians so I know there will be someone who will watch finals with me
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 04 2013 15:26 GMT
#3783
Holy fuck what the hell this may be brilliant

For example, "Exp. Share," which splits earned experience among your whole party, is no longer an item that must be attached to a Pokémon. Instead, it's a toggle that appears once you're given an Exp. Share item. That occurs roughly three hours into the story, ensuring that for the majority of your adventure all of your Pokémon will receive experience points, regardless of which 'mon is doing the battling.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 15:29:06
October 04 2013 15:27 GMT
#3784
Planning going over to my friends house and hooking up my laptop to his tv. And prolly ordering some pizza.

new xp share looks stupid as fuq. Gotta train magikarps the real way imo.
liftlift > tsm
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 04 2013 15:30 GMT
#3785
On October 05 2013 00:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Planning going over to my friends house and hooking up my laptop to his tv. And prolly ordering some pizza.

new xp share looks stupid as fuq. Gotta train magikarps the real way imo.


I agree kinda. It draws away from the strategy of figuring out who to train and how.

I was shocked at how easily and early you got EXP Share in the last game.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 04 2013 15:33 GMT
#3786
It takes away the grindiness that is inherent in these games. I used to love just running around grinding levels in like FF games or Pokemon, but honestly it now grates on me. I'm 100% for anything more streamlined and quick. Not to mention not making it an item means you can give them a battle item or something. WAIT - EXP Share with Lucky Egg held? Fuck yes so fast leveling.

Of course, EXP Share is never going to be optimal for EV training or happiness training, so you will still have a reason to train as normal.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 15:43:56
October 04 2013 15:36 GMT
#3787
In the first gen exp. share automatically worked for all the Pokemons in your party as long as it was in your inventory, it's not exactly new. The toggle's going to make it smoother to use though.

And that Mega Gengar looks dumb. If people were to try hyping XY for me they shouldn't try to use these mega evolutions digimon stuff.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 04 2013 15:37 GMT
#3788
I dunno, the quality of life change with xp share starting to cut into gameplay, sorta like HotS, miners auto start mining in beginning of the game. But of course this is coming from the guy who's last pokemon game was fire red.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 15:39:33
October 04 2013 15:38 GMT
#3789
What happens if you have the new Exp. Share on with a Pokemon holding the old Exp. Share in your party (transferred from Gen 5)?

On October 05 2013 00:37 wei2coolman wrote:
I dunno, the quality of life change with xp share starting to cut into gameplay, sorta like HotS, miners auto start mining in beginning of the game. But of course this is coming from the guy who's last pokemon game was fire red.

As mentioned it's the exact same shit as gen 1.

It's just that because the PC doesn't let you store items anymore, they way it worked in Gen 1 makes absolutely no sense (you can't put it in your PC to turn it off).
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 15:40:32
October 04 2013 15:39 GMT
#3790
Doesn't EXP share do all sorts of funky things to EV's? And by funky, I mean the pokemon that don't fight don't get EV's and end up super wimpy.

I remember back in my day starting one pokemon then manually switching to my workhorse to level up low levels...
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 15:40:03
October 04 2013 15:39 GMT
#3791
Dunno, that's all I'd read. I'd assume the Exp Share only works if it's in your inventory, so likely nothing until you take it from the Mon.

On October 05 2013 00:39 ticklishmusic wrote:
Doesn't EXP share do all sorts of funky things to EV's?

Yes, which is why you only use it if you're not a powergamer lol.

Though now you can affect your EVs and IVs with minigames and berries (iirc), so it's a bit easier.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 04 2013 15:40 GMT
#3792
On October 05 2013 00:39 Requizen wrote:
Dunno, that's all I'd read. I'd assume the Exp Share only works if it's in your inventory, so likely nothing until you take it from the Mon.

So the Gen 5 Exp. Share becomes the Gen 6 Exp. Share when transferred to a Gen 6 game? It's not a completely new item?
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 04 2013 15:41 GMT
#3793
On October 05 2013 00:40 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 00:39 Requizen wrote:
Dunno, that's all I'd read. I'd assume the Exp Share only works if it's in your inventory, so likely nothing until you take it from the Mon.

So the Gen 5 Exp. Share becomes the Gen 6 Exp. Share when transferred to a Gen 6 game? It's not a completely new item?

Like I said, I'm not the one with a leaked copy lol. I would assume so, but I don't remember any items changing that drastically between games that you could transfer.
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 04 2013 15:42 GMT
#3794
For the Pokemon knowledge deficient, what's EV?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 04 2013 15:43 GMT
#3795
TBH I wouldn't be surprised if they just called this thing "Exp. All" again as homage to gen 1 (seeing as it's more similar to that than Exp. Share). I would be surprised if they took Exp. Share as it currently exists out of the game, because that still has its uses.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 04 2013 15:48 GMT
#3796
IV is the "natural potential" of the Pokemon iirc, something like that, and the reason why you do so much breeding (aside from specific moves).
EVs are some kind of points you get while fighting Pokemons (a specific Pokemon gives specific EVs for each stat), that will translate into additional stat points once you level up. You can only get 255 max iirc so you have to choose which stats you'll boost this way. Dugtrio with maxed speed through EVs should always outspeed 0 EVs Dugtrio barring some huge IV discrepancy or something like that.

Can't the XY trade center simply cancel the trade if the incoming Pokemon holds an exp. share? I have no idea how trades work anymore with the wifi and all.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 04 2013 15:48 GMT
#3797
On October 05 2013 00:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
For the Pokemon knowledge deficient, what's EV?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EV

Effort Values basically mean that, depending on the enemy you defeat, you get a boost to different stats when you level. Proper EV training will look something like this:

[image loading]

Which means that if you want to have the most optimized team, you need to take care of what you defeat. Certain items will boost values as well.

Leveling up by Rare Candy or Day Care will not effect EVs. Apparently I was wrong and EXP Share will, but generally you're not EV training two Mon the same way at the same time (though you could, I suppose).
It's your boy Guzma!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 04 2013 15:49 GMT
#3798
On October 05 2013 00:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
For the Pokemon knowledge deficient, what's EV?


Soniv pls

EV Values

Basically a pokemon actually beating another pokemon gives it EV points in a certain area, which means when it levels it gets more points in that certain area than it would otherwise. This amount is also affected by the pokemon's nature and other little gimmicks. It's a lot of work, but you can end up with a pokemon that is 10-20% stronger than one leveled without giving thought to EV values, or customize them to have higher HP/speed/defense/attack/spc.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 04 2013 15:50 GMT
#3799
Man, I don't remember exp share in Gen 1, at all. I remember Gen II's where it was only between holder, and participants of battle (not entire party).
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 04 2013 15:52 GMT
#3800
You could have missed Exp. All in Gen 1 I think, it was given by one of the random Oak's Assistants that checked your Pokedex completion. Oak always told you to go find his assistant when you hit a certain value but he never told you where they were.
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