EPTOn June 28 2026 04:20 Elentos wrote:
All set for Serral to become champion by losing the finals 3-4
All set for Serral to become champion by losing the finals 3-4
As was foretold
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darklycid
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As was foretold | ||
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TeamMamba
277 Posts
The players looked like they had lots of fun too (except classic maybe) GOAT Serral with another championship | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4558 Posts
In all seriousness, he's so clutch and I feel bad for herO but herO has been winning so much lately so I shouldn't feel too bad here. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7362 Posts
Then today I open up TL.net to find out Serral has won | ||
Poopi
France13015 Posts
On June 29 2026 20:29 Harris1st wrote: lol I turned of the stream after the 4:1 Then today I open up TL.net to find out Serral has won They should have explained to herO that it would be bracket reset, he lost all momentum with the akward trophy lift But I think bracket reset is a bad format for StarCraft 2, it can be hype on other esports but in sc2 it seems far too difficult, especially since you can use up strats in the first bo7 | ||
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PremoBeats
584 Posts
On June 29 2026 20:29 Harris1st wrote: lol I turned of the stream after the 4:1 Then today I open up TL.net to find out Serral has won Same thing happened to me at the first Maestros of the Game, when I was just letting the stream run along my Japanese learning play list... Serral wins 4:3 only to find out the next day that he lost 2:0 to Clem in the reset match, which I didn't watch. On June 29 2026 20:36 Poopi wrote: They should have explained to herO that it would be bracket reset, he lost all momentum with the akward trophy lift But I think bracket reset is a bad format for StarCraft 2, it can be hype on other esports but in sc2 it seems far too difficult, especially since you can use up strats in the first bo7 Yeah, that threw him off completely. Imagine not knowing about the rule and simply prepping for a Bo7, only to find out you have to go for another Bo3. Especially after already having played Classic and Maru in that French sauna. | ||
nimdil
Poland3772 Posts
On June 29 2026 20:36 Poopi wrote: They should have explained to herO that it would be bracket reset, he lost all momentum with the akward trophy lift But I think bracket reset is a bad format for StarCraft 2, it can be hype on other esports but in sc2 it seems far too difficult, especially since you can use up strats in the first bo7 I generally disagree and believe that lack of bracket reset is unfair to winners bracket winner who is the only person in whole tournament who got to be eliminated on first series loss. | ||
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Poopi
France13015 Posts
On June 30 2026 02:18 nimdil wrote: I generally disagree and believe that lack of bracket reset is unfair to winners bracket winner who is the only person in whole tournament who got to be eliminated on first series loss. Yeah if there is no advantage it’s completely unfair, that’s why 1 map advantage can be a decent tradeoff | ||
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JJH777
United States4420 Posts
On June 30 2026 02:18 nimdil wrote: I generally disagree and believe that lack of bracket reset is unfair to winners bracket winner who is the only person in whole tournament who got to be eliminated on first series loss. Group Stages having double elimination feeding into a single elim bracket already has the same discrepancy and no one cares. Groups are really nothing but a big double elim bracket. Just split the finals into its own thing separate from the rest of the bracket the way we do with groups. The purpose of double elim is making sure the second best player still makes the finals which is still accomplished with only the final being single elim. | ||
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TeamMamba
277 Posts
On June 29 2026 20:36 Poopi wrote: They should have explained to herO that it would be bracket reset, he lost all momentum with the akward trophy lift But I think bracket reset is a bad format for StarCraft 2, it can be hype on other esports but in sc2 it seems far too difficult, especially since you can use up strats in the first bo7 Simple just no loser bracket format. Once you lose your out | ||
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LostUsername100
99 Posts
 .But it'd be pretty boring to watch Serral win nearly everything. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1346 Posts
But I'm also not a big fan on these awkward "1-map advantages"-things. I would still say the most elegant solution is presented to us via Valorant: Just give a Veto-advantage for the WB-Player. In this case, instead of both of them vetoing a map, only Serral would have gotten 2 vetos. | ||
Waxangel
United States33681 Posts
That said, people's attachment to existing conventions in a scene are a 100% valid thing to take into account, even if they may seem odd from an outside POV. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7362 Posts
On June 30 2026 12:39 Waxangel wrote: Honestly I'm 100% fine with 'true' double elim formats, and I think most of the discontent is just people disliking things that go against conventions/tradition within the scene (also think MLG extended series was a perfectly fine format, but people just didn't want to wrap their heads around it for some reason). That said, people's attachment to existing conventions in a scene are a 100% valid thing to take into account, even if they may seem odd from an outside POV. In general I don't prefer this over that. But having a TROPHY LIFT to then go and play another Bo3, that is just bullshit. Otherwise this was a great event on all fronts! | ||
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HeroSandro
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Elentos
55593 Posts
I don't have an elegant solution that's not going to crash tournament schedules, but I wouldn't be opposed to organizers just trying something different. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1346 Posts
On June 30 2026 12:39 Waxangel wrote: Honestly I'm 100% fine with 'true' double elim formats, and I think most of the discontent is just people disliking things that go against conventions/tradition within the scene (also think MLG extended series was a perfectly fine format, but people just didn't want to wrap their heads around it for some reason). That said, people's attachment to existing conventions in a scene are a 100% valid thing to take into account, even if they may seem odd from an outside POV. I think the "problem" is that this convention essentially comes from WC3, atleast as far as RTS is concerned. But in WC3 the "Super-Advantage" in the finals wasn't that much of an issue, because everything was Bo3 anyway. But with more extended formats we got these awkward Bo7/Bo3 situations, that don't really make much sense | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7362 Posts
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