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Esports World Cup 2024 - Last Chance Qualifier (July 4-7)…

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Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden818 Posts
July 06 2024 07:15 GMT
#41
Showtime and trigger to clinch the 2 spots
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4235 Posts
July 06 2024 09:47 GMT
#42
why is it a bo5 in the qualifying match of the open qualifiers that lead into the closed qualifiers but only a bo3 in the closed qualifiers that lead directly to the main tournament? that makes absolutely zero sense at all..

or did I just misread the format on liquipedia?
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
July 06 2024 10:27 GMT
#43
Bottom bracket Looks a little less stacked than the top one.
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1218 Posts
July 06 2024 10:32 GMT
#44
On July 06 2024 18:47 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
why is it a bo5 in the qualifying match of the open qualifiers that lead into the closed qualifiers but only a bo3 in the closed qualifiers that lead directly to the main tournament? that makes absolutely zero sense at all..

or did I just misread the format on liquipedia?


Upper Bracket Quarterfinals are Bo3
Remaining Upper and Lower Bracket matches are Bo5
Qualifying Matches are Bo7
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
July 06 2024 13:51 GMT
#45
stream is live https://www.twitch.tv/ewc_black
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Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1262 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-06 14:24:24
July 06 2024 14:22 GMT
#46
How did it come to pass that Bunny/Stats and Showtime/Elazer play against each other in the first round? Was this done by EPT Points seeding? Because if it was by draw, why wasn't there a "no same region in first round"-Rule in place?

Edit: If it was done by points it would mostly hold up, just trigger and Elazer would need to swap.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17267 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-06 14:54:07
July 06 2024 14:48 GMT
#47
On June 25 2024 18:26 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2024 06:39 Blitzball04 wrote:
On June 20 2024 15:36 WombaT wrote:
On June 18 2024 03:18 Haku wrote:
Insane to think about this qualifier basically having a 15k prize for the players who qualifies haha

That is pretty mental now you mention it. Coulda been even more if the prize distribution wasn’t so top-heavy too!


Paying the 12-18th place players 15k is already pretty generous imo.

No offence but those players games are usually not as exciting or hyped in these kind of big tournaments because we know all of them are not even remotely close to having a chance to winning it

For example 15k is already a big step up in pay for players such as coffee, Astrea, gumiho,

Well such is the problem with throwing money at a mega tournament such as this in a scene that is in the state that it’s currently in.

Certainly wouldn’t have been my first choice in how to use that kinda fund

I think the competitive SC2 scene is awesome. The players are great. The games are wild. The maps are brilliantly crafted. The coverage of the events is great. There is just not much money in it.

I think the Intercounty Baseball League is better than Major League Baseball. Intercounty baseball players make 30K and have other jobs. MLB players are all on steroids and HGH and make hundreds of millions of dollars. They are all well on their way to looking like Andre The Giant, Joe Rogan, and Barry Bonds due to all the HGH they've been taking for many years.

money ain't everything man.

you do make a good point that the money is not well spent. if the Saudi's took the money and spread it around to every person that holds weekly and monthly events that'd be ideal. Wardi would be a rich man... and he'd have earned every dime.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4235 Posts
July 07 2024 01:35 GMT
#48
On July 06 2024 19:32 Kashim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2024 18:47 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
why is it a bo5 in the qualifying match of the open qualifiers that lead into the closed qualifiers but only a bo3 in the closed qualifiers that lead directly to the main tournament? that makes absolutely zero sense at all..

or did I just misread the format on liquipedia?


Upper Bracket Quarterfinals are Bo3
Remaining Upper and Lower Bracket matches are Bo5
Qualifying Matches are Bo7

ok so just a lack of info on liqui then

thanks for clearing it up
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
191 Posts
July 07 2024 02:30 GMT
#49
On July 06 2024 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2024 18:26 WombaT wrote:
On June 25 2024 06:39 Blitzball04 wrote:
On June 20 2024 15:36 WombaT wrote:
On June 18 2024 03:18 Haku wrote:
Insane to think about this qualifier basically having a 15k prize for the players who qualifies haha

That is pretty mental now you mention it. Coulda been even more if the prize distribution wasn’t so top-heavy too!


Paying the 12-18th place players 15k is already pretty generous imo.

No offence but those players games are usually not as exciting or hyped in these kind of big tournaments because we know all of them are not even remotely close to having a chance to winning it

For example 15k is already a big step up in pay for players such as coffee, Astrea, gumiho,

Well such is the problem with throwing money at a mega tournament such as this in a scene that is in the state that it’s currently in.

Certainly wouldn’t have been my first choice in how to use that kinda fund

I think the competitive SC2 scene is awesome. The players are great. The games are wild. The maps are brilliantly crafted. The coverage of the events is great. There is just not much money in it.

I think the Intercounty Baseball League is better than Major League Baseball. Intercounty baseball players make 30K and have other jobs. MLB players are all on steroids and HGH and make hundreds of millions of dollars. They are all well on their way to looking like Andre The Giant, Joe Rogan, and Barry Bonds due to all the HGH they've been taking for many years.

money ain't everything man.

you do make a good point that the money is not well spent. if the Saudi's took the money and spread it around to every person that holds weekly and monthly events that'd be ideal. Wardi would be a rich man... and he'd have earned every dime.


I personally prefer this current setup. One big prize pool for one tournment. Feels more hype/excited knowing the importance of this game / series.

WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26264 Posts
July 07 2024 02:42 GMT
#50
On July 07 2024 11:30 Blitzball04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2024 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On June 25 2024 18:26 WombaT wrote:
On June 25 2024 06:39 Blitzball04 wrote:
On June 20 2024 15:36 WombaT wrote:
On June 18 2024 03:18 Haku wrote:
Insane to think about this qualifier basically having a 15k prize for the players who qualifies haha

That is pretty mental now you mention it. Coulda been even more if the prize distribution wasn’t so top-heavy too!


Paying the 12-18th place players 15k is already pretty generous imo.

No offence but those players games are usually not as exciting or hyped in these kind of big tournaments because we know all of them are not even remotely close to having a chance to winning it

For example 15k is already a big step up in pay for players such as coffee, Astrea, gumiho,

Well such is the problem with throwing money at a mega tournament such as this in a scene that is in the state that it’s currently in.

Certainly wouldn’t have been my first choice in how to use that kinda fund

I think the competitive SC2 scene is awesome. The players are great. The games are wild. The maps are brilliantly crafted. The coverage of the events is great. There is just not much money in it.

I think the Intercounty Baseball League is better than Major League Baseball. Intercounty baseball players make 30K and have other jobs. MLB players are all on steroids and HGH and make hundreds of millions of dollars. They are all well on their way to looking like Andre The Giant, Joe Rogan, and Barry Bonds due to all the HGH they've been taking for many years.

money ain't everything man.

you do make a good point that the money is not well spent. if the Saudi's took the money and spread it around to every person that holds weekly and monthly events that'd be ideal. Wardi would be a rich man... and he'd have earned every dime.


I personally prefer this current setup. One big prize pool for one tournment. Feels more hype/excited knowing the importance of this game / series.


It’s more hyped it’s not how a sustainable scene works
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26264 Posts
July 07 2024 02:48 GMT
#51
On July 06 2024 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2024 18:26 WombaT wrote:
On June 25 2024 06:39 Blitzball04 wrote:
On June 20 2024 15:36 WombaT wrote:
On June 18 2024 03:18 Haku wrote:
Insane to think about this qualifier basically having a 15k prize for the players who qualifies haha

That is pretty mental now you mention it. Coulda been even more if the prize distribution wasn’t so top-heavy too!


Paying the 12-18th place players 15k is already pretty generous imo.

No offence but those players games are usually not as exciting or hyped in these kind of big tournaments because we know all of them are not even remotely close to having a chance to winning it

For example 15k is already a big step up in pay for players such as coffee, Astrea, gumiho,

Well such is the problem with throwing money at a mega tournament such as this in a scene that is in the state that it’s currently in.

Certainly wouldn’t have been my first choice in how to use that kinda fund

I think the competitive SC2 scene is awesome. The players are great. The games are wild. The maps are brilliantly crafted. The coverage of the events is great. There is just not much money in it.

I think the Intercounty Baseball League is better than Major League Baseball. Intercounty baseball players make 30K and have other jobs. MLB players are all on steroids and HGH and make hundreds of millions of dollars. They are all well on their way to looking like Andre The Giant, Joe Rogan, and Barry Bonds due to all the HGH they've been taking for many years.

money ain't everything man.

you do make a good point that the money is not well spent. if the Saudi's took the money and spread it around to every person that holds weekly and monthly events that'd be ideal. Wardi would be a rich man... and he'd have earned every dime.

Yeah I kinda get that, professional sport can hit a point where the fun is sucked out of it. Or the competitive balance or whatever. Any number of things, I’m a giant multi-sport freak and I’ve seen it enough
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1262 Posts
July 07 2024 15:15 GMT
#52
Bunny is playing so clean, but it feels like Firefly gets hit by nerves quite a bit :/
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 07 2024 16:24 GMT
#53
Shin is throwing this series away with some questionable builds
Year of MaxPax
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10104 Posts
July 07 2024 17:12 GMT
#54
hero stasis ward !
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3509 Posts
July 07 2024 17:13 GMT
#55
Steadfast super hyped after watching NA players for too long, State getting bored watching this mid tier slugfest after watching GSL for too long. LOL. :D
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
July 07 2024 17:28 GMT
#56
feelsbad you could see how the bad server games just didnt go showtimes way
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10104 Posts
July 07 2024 17:29 GMT
#57
fuuuuck i hope Showtime can rest well before his aother series. gratz Shin!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1262 Posts
July 07 2024 17:29 GMT
#58
GG Shin, but I really hope Showtime pulls through...losing three important Bo7s in the span of ~two weeks doesn't feel right
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
July 07 2024 17:34 GMT
#59
On July 08 2024 02:28 darklycid wrote:
feelsbad you could see how the bad server games just didnt go showtimes way


Germany has a way bigger advantage in ping with both players on NA east server than KR has when they are on west though. Though ping probably impacts Toss micro a bit more than Zerg. Still overall server switching gives most of the western EU countries the advantage. Ironically it's only Serral out of the top EU pros who is actually on pretty equal ping terms with KR in online events.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
July 07 2024 17:35 GMT
#60
On July 08 2024 02:34 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2024 02:28 darklycid wrote:
feelsbad you could see how the bad server games just didnt go showtimes way


Germany has a way bigger advantage in ping with both players on NA east server than KR has when they are on west though. Though ping probably impacts Toss micro a bit more than Zerg. Still overall server switching gives most of the western EU countries the advantage. Ironically it's only Serral out of the top EU pros who is actually on pretty equal ping terms with KR in online events.

Might be true buyt you could really see how different showtimes control looked from game to game in the fights.
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