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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-19 10:54:17
November 19 2022 10:49 GMT
#61
On November 19 2022 17:37 True_Spike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2022 16:29 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
why does this tournament have such a convoluted, weird format/system?

makes it much harder to follow than it should be.. damn.


Personally, I like it a lot.

Decent format.. but overly convoluted. Maybe a bit too many "second chances" in the qualifiers. Also I still have no idea how ro32 qualifiers (from event not regionals) even work, tbh..

It's great from ro32 onwards though.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
November 19 2022 10:59 GMT
#62
Does anyone know what happened to TIME?
Was the jetlag too much or he had troubles practicing recently? Because his results are way worse than expected unfortunately :/.
WriterMaru
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17724 Posts
November 19 2022 11:26 GMT
#63
Solar vs Maru most likely meeting in the quarterfinals
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17724 Posts
November 19 2022 11:31 GMT
#64
On November 19 2022 19:49 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2022 17:37 True_Spike wrote:
On November 19 2022 16:29 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
why does this tournament have such a convoluted, weird format/system?

makes it much harder to follow than it should be.. damn.


Personally, I like it a lot.

Decent format.. but overly convoluted. Maybe a bit too many "second chances" in the qualifiers. Also I still have no idea how ro32 qualifiers (from event not regionals) even work, tbh..

It's great from ro32 onwards though.

I think it's funny how they give so many 2nd chances to the weaker open bracket players who lose multiple matches in the first day, but Byun vs Serral in the ro16 and there's no 2nd chance at all lol. I mean I guess technically the ro24 guys lost at least 1 match in the first day, but if Serral loses to Byun or Clem loses to Bunny, I think many people would be pretty disappointed
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RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation400 Posts
November 19 2022 13:47 GMT
#65
Serral Maru finals confirmed
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
November 19 2022 13:53 GMT
#66
On November 19 2022 22:47 RandomPlayer wrote:
Serral Maru finals confirmed

I think herO-Serral would be a more interesting final. herO's beaten Serral, but seeing the builds he'd try in a big offline bo7 would be a treat. Or it could go the way of almost every ZvP final for the past 4 years...

Doubt that will happen though, it's increasingly looking like the GSL season 2 finals was a fluke and Maru has herO's number.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3449 Posts
November 19 2022 14:05 GMT
#67
I guess the tournament is split into 2 part, the "Open Cup" part where everyone get as many chance to play as possible with lots of bracket and groups stage. Then we have the "Tournament" part starting today, which is the single elimination bracket only for the best players who have proven themselves from day 1. Given that its an offline tournament with real audience, I dont mind this format to provide lots of game and viewer experience.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
November 19 2022 14:16 GMT
#68
On November 19 2022 22:53 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2022 22:47 RandomPlayer wrote:
Serral Maru finals confirmed

I think herO-Serral would be a more interesting final. herO's beaten Serral, but seeing the builds he'd try in a big offline bo7 would be a treat. Or it could go the way of almost every ZvP final for the past 4 years...

Doubt that will happen though, it's increasingly looking like the GSL season 2 finals was a fluke and Maru has herO's number.


It's pretty easy to explain. herO came prepared with a style that hadn't been seen in years. Maru wasn't ready for it.

The meta has since adjusted and stabilized. There's a reason that style had gone out of style years ago, it's vulnerable if you know to prepare for it. Maru wasn't during those finals, no one was. Now the meta has adjusted and herO is back down to earth in that match up.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
November 19 2022 14:27 GMT
#69
On November 19 2022 23:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2022 22:53 dysenterymd wrote:
On November 19 2022 22:47 RandomPlayer wrote:
Serral Maru finals confirmed

I think herO-Serral would be a more interesting final. herO's beaten Serral, but seeing the builds he'd try in a big offline bo7 would be a treat. Or it could go the way of almost every ZvP final for the past 4 years...

Doubt that will happen though, it's increasingly looking like the GSL season 2 finals was a fluke and Maru has herO's number.


It's pretty easy to explain. herO came prepared with a style that hadn't been seen in years. Maru wasn't ready for it.

The meta has since adjusted and stabilized. There's a reason that style had gone out of style years ago, it's vulnerable if you know to prepare for it. Maru wasn't during those finals, no one was. Now the meta has adjusted and herO is back down to earth in that match up.

I think it's partly true but Maru also lost partly because of the map pool: the game that herO won on Cosmic Sapphire would have been a loss if not for the gold map which favors 1) zergs 2) protoss 3) terrans. herO was too wasteful but the gold allowed for his strategy to barely work and various other strategies could have been used successfully on that map, so he had a big strategic edge.

It seems though that herO is back to struggling a bit in the match-up. Fans of MaxPax would say the Danish protoss has figured out the MU, but we have seen in his games against Clem that low stakes tournaments do not mean that much compared to the DreamHack and/or offline tournaments.

I think Maru will struggle vs herO if they both get there, but as a Maru fan I am pretty biased towards being too scared for Maru than I should realistically be
WriterMaru
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-19 14:35:25
November 19 2022 14:34 GMT
#70
On November 19 2022 23:27 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2022 23:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On November 19 2022 22:53 dysenterymd wrote:
On November 19 2022 22:47 RandomPlayer wrote:
Serral Maru finals confirmed

I think herO-Serral would be a more interesting final. herO's beaten Serral, but seeing the builds he'd try in a big offline bo7 would be a treat. Or it could go the way of almost every ZvP final for the past 4 years...

Doubt that will happen though, it's increasingly looking like the GSL season 2 finals was a fluke and Maru has herO's number.


It's pretty easy to explain. herO came prepared with a style that hadn't been seen in years. Maru wasn't ready for it.

The meta has since adjusted and stabilized. There's a reason that style had gone out of style years ago, it's vulnerable if you know to prepare for it. Maru wasn't during those finals, no one was. Now the meta has adjusted and herO is back down to earth in that match up.

I think it's partly true but Maru also lost partly because of the map pool: the game that herO won on Cosmic Sapphire would have been a loss if not for the gold map which favors 1) zergs 2) protoss 3) terrans. herO was too wasteful but the gold allowed for his strategy to barely work and various other strategies could have been used successfully on that map, so he had a big strategic edge.

It seems though that herO is back to struggling a bit in the match-up. Fans of MaxPax would say the Danish protoss has figured out the MU, but we have seen in his games against Clem that low stakes tournaments do not mean that much compared to the DreamHack and/or offline tournaments.

I think Maru will struggle vs herO if they both get there, but as a Maru fan I am pretty biased towards being too scared for Maru than I should realistically be

herO is good enough to beat Maru straight up if Maru is a little off, and tricky enough to steal a game here and there, but I struggle to put his odds against Maru at higher than 30-35%. That still probably makes him the scariest player in the tournament for Maru other than Serral.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3449 Posts
November 19 2022 14:55 GMT
#71
I feel that the build that Maru used in the recent match against herO work very well, which is the 1-1-1 opening into 3CC and another 2 racks, which give strong defense, give lots of Bio unit while doing an economic build. If herO try to bash his Stalker pressure into that, he will either die or not doing enough damage. If herO want to do a greedy build with lots of Probe and early expansion, then he can be hit with the normal timing from Terran push.

What made the GSL Final S2 the way it was because Maru thought he was fighiting against some standard Protoss build, where he want to move out early, even with SCV pull, to punish an early econ build. But herO didnt went crazy with probes, he build extra gateway and Robo unit to defend, and Maru hit did nothing and fell behind.
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
November 19 2022 15:09 GMT
#72
On November 19 2022 17:37 Poopi wrote:
Difficult bracket for Maru, hopefully herO still hasn’t found the key to PvT


Maru has one of the easiest draw. He gets to do his usual spanking in solar

Solar can never catch a break and be on the opposite bracket of Maru
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-19 15:17:13
November 19 2022 15:17 GMT
#73
Nightmare is having quite a knockout bracket run
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
November 19 2022 15:20 GMT
#74
On November 20 2022 00:09 TossHeroes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2022 17:37 Poopi wrote:
Difficult bracket for Maru, hopefully herO still hasn’t found the key to PvT


Maru has one of the easiest draw. He gets to do his usual spanking in solar

Solar can never catch a break and be on the opposite bracket of Maru

I don’t think Solar into herO (Maru’s probable draw) is easier in TvZ / TvP than Serral running into RagnaroK and Bunny or Clem
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3449 Posts
November 19 2022 15:20 GMT
#75
On November 20 2022 00:09 TossHeroes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2022 17:37 Poopi wrote:
Difficult bracket for Maru, hopefully herO still hasn’t found the key to PvT


Maru has one of the easiest draw. He gets to do his usual spanking in solar

Solar can never catch a break and be on the opposite bracket of Maru

Outside of the top 4 seeds which were SET to meet in the SemiFinal, who could give Maru a run? I know the Solar meme but its more about him running to Maru early, not about Maru "getting a break" for getting Solar instead of who? Heromarine? Showtime? Astrea? Neeb? You think Maru would have WAY more difficult series against those guys?

Btw, seems like Nightmare is the magical run this time around.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17724 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-19 15:38:31
November 19 2022 15:36 GMT
#76
Idk if anyone official is reading here, but the game music is too loud, hard to hear the commentators

Also at least yesterday, the break music was way way too loud, especially the "guess what unit" segments
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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
November 19 2022 15:37 GMT
#77
Gabe 3-0 Gumigod
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-19 15:41:29
November 19 2022 15:39 GMT
#78
Thanks to nightmare, scarlett has a free run to the quarterfinals

And once again PvP rears its ugly head. Knocks out people who are actually decent
Year of MaxPax
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
November 19 2022 15:44 GMT
#79
On November 20 2022 00:39 sudete wrote:
Thanks to nightmare, scarlett has a free run to the quarterfinals

And once again PvP rears its ugly head. Knocks out people who are actually decent

Hasn't Neeb started university by now? He has probably less time to practice the various match-ups and is more prone to getting upset imo.
NightMare had a bad start in group stage 1, but his knockout bracket run was pretty insane, so his form and momentum is probably through the roof, giving him the confidence needed to perform at his best! I hope to see him play well vs Scarlett, and she is probably happy to play a different opponent than the one she has played a thousand times in DH:NA?
WriterMaru
Zergiica
Profile Joined October 2015
Croatia126 Posts
November 19 2022 15:45 GMT
#80
A move protoss. It shouldn't be a win for Zoun, Byun made everything good, had stronger army... Well, PvT is PvT....................
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