Decent format.. but overly convoluted. Maybe a bit too many "second chances" in the qualifiers. Also I still have no idea how ro32 qualifiers (from event not regionals) even work, tbh..
It's great from ro32 onwards though.
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland3784 Posts
On November 19 2022 17:37 True_Spike wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2022 16:29 M3t4PhYzX wrote: why does this tournament have such a convoluted, weird format/system? makes it much harder to follow than it should be.. damn. Personally, I like it a lot. Decent format.. but overly convoluted. Maybe a bit too many "second chances" in the qualifiers. Also I still have no idea how ro32 qualifiers (from event not regionals) even work, tbh.. It's great from ro32 onwards though. | ||
Poopi
France12466 Posts
Was the jetlag too much or he had troubles practicing recently? Because his results are way worse than expected unfortunately :/. | ||
Die4Ever
United States17430 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17430 Posts
On November 19 2022 19:49 M3t4PhYzX wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2022 17:37 True_Spike wrote: On November 19 2022 16:29 M3t4PhYzX wrote: why does this tournament have such a convoluted, weird format/system? makes it much harder to follow than it should be.. damn. Personally, I like it a lot. Decent format.. but overly convoluted. Maybe a bit too many "second chances" in the qualifiers. Also I still have no idea how ro32 qualifiers (from event not regionals) even work, tbh.. It's great from ro32 onwards though. I think it's funny how they give so many 2nd chances to the weaker open bracket players who lose multiple matches in the first day, but Byun vs Serral in the ro16 and there's no 2nd chance at all lol. I mean I guess technically the ro24 guys lost at least 1 match in the first day, but if Serral loses to Byun or Clem loses to Bunny, I think many people would be pretty disappointed | ||
RandomPlayer
Russian Federation364 Posts
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dysenterymd
1051 Posts
On November 19 2022 22:47 RandomPlayer wrote: Serral Maru finals confirmed I think herO-Serral would be a more interesting final. herO's beaten Serral, but seeing the builds he'd try in a big offline bo7 would be a treat. Or it could go the way of almost every ZvP final for the past 4 years... Doubt that will happen though, it's increasingly looking like the GSL season 2 finals was a fluke and Maru has herO's number. | ||
tigera6
2903 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States15713 Posts
On November 19 2022 22:53 dysenterymd wrote: I think herO-Serral would be a more interesting final. herO's beaten Serral, but seeing the builds he'd try in a big offline bo7 would be a treat. Or it could go the way of almost every ZvP final for the past 4 years... Doubt that will happen though, it's increasingly looking like the GSL season 2 finals was a fluke and Maru has herO's number. It's pretty easy to explain. herO came prepared with a style that hadn't been seen in years. Maru wasn't ready for it. The meta has since adjusted and stabilized. There's a reason that style had gone out of style years ago, it's vulnerable if you know to prepare for it. Maru wasn't during those finals, no one was. Now the meta has adjusted and herO is back down to earth in that match up. | ||
Poopi
France12466 Posts
On November 19 2022 23:16 Vindicare605 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2022 22:53 dysenterymd wrote: On November 19 2022 22:47 RandomPlayer wrote: Serral Maru finals confirmed I think herO-Serral would be a more interesting final. herO's beaten Serral, but seeing the builds he'd try in a big offline bo7 would be a treat. Or it could go the way of almost every ZvP final for the past 4 years... Doubt that will happen though, it's increasingly looking like the GSL season 2 finals was a fluke and Maru has herO's number. It's pretty easy to explain. herO came prepared with a style that hadn't been seen in years. Maru wasn't ready for it. The meta has since adjusted and stabilized. There's a reason that style had gone out of style years ago, it's vulnerable if you know to prepare for it. Maru wasn't during those finals, no one was. Now the meta has adjusted and herO is back down to earth in that match up. I think it's partly true but Maru also lost partly because of the map pool: the game that herO won on Cosmic Sapphire would have been a loss if not for the gold map which favors 1) zergs 2) protoss 3) terrans. herO was too wasteful but the gold allowed for his strategy to barely work and various other strategies could have been used successfully on that map, so he had a big strategic edge. It seems though that herO is back to struggling a bit in the match-up. Fans of MaxPax would say the Danish protoss has figured out the MU, but we have seen in his games against Clem that low stakes tournaments do not mean that much compared to the DreamHack and/or offline tournaments. I think Maru will struggle vs herO if they both get there, but as a Maru fan I am pretty biased towards being too scared for Maru than I should realistically be | ||
dysenterymd
1051 Posts
On November 19 2022 23:27 Poopi wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2022 23:16 Vindicare605 wrote: On November 19 2022 22:53 dysenterymd wrote: On November 19 2022 22:47 RandomPlayer wrote: Serral Maru finals confirmed I think herO-Serral would be a more interesting final. herO's beaten Serral, but seeing the builds he'd try in a big offline bo7 would be a treat. Or it could go the way of almost every ZvP final for the past 4 years... Doubt that will happen though, it's increasingly looking like the GSL season 2 finals was a fluke and Maru has herO's number. It's pretty easy to explain. herO came prepared with a style that hadn't been seen in years. Maru wasn't ready for it. The meta has since adjusted and stabilized. There's a reason that style had gone out of style years ago, it's vulnerable if you know to prepare for it. Maru wasn't during those finals, no one was. Now the meta has adjusted and herO is back down to earth in that match up. I think it's partly true but Maru also lost partly because of the map pool: the game that herO won on Cosmic Sapphire would have been a loss if not for the gold map which favors 1) zergs 2) protoss 3) terrans. herO was too wasteful but the gold allowed for his strategy to barely work and various other strategies could have been used successfully on that map, so he had a big strategic edge. It seems though that herO is back to struggling a bit in the match-up. Fans of MaxPax would say the Danish protoss has figured out the MU, but we have seen in his games against Clem that low stakes tournaments do not mean that much compared to the DreamHack and/or offline tournaments. I think Maru will struggle vs herO if they both get there, but as a Maru fan I am pretty biased towards being too scared for Maru than I should realistically be herO is good enough to beat Maru straight up if Maru is a little off, and tricky enough to steal a game here and there, but I struggle to put his odds against Maru at higher than 30-35%. That still probably makes him the scariest player in the tournament for Maru other than Serral. | ||
tigera6
2903 Posts
What made the GSL Final S2 the way it was because Maru thought he was fighiting against some standard Protoss build, where he want to move out early, even with SCV pull, to punish an early econ build. But herO didnt went crazy with probes, he build extra gateway and Robo unit to defend, and Maru hit did nothing and fell behind. | ||
TossHeroes
281 Posts
On November 19 2022 17:37 Poopi wrote: Difficult bracket for Maru, hopefully herO still hasn’t found the key to PvT Maru has one of the easiest draw. He gets to do his usual spanking in solar Solar can never catch a break and be on the opposite bracket of Maru | ||
Nakajin
Canada8763 Posts
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Poopi
France12466 Posts
On November 20 2022 00:09 TossHeroes wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2022 17:37 Poopi wrote: Difficult bracket for Maru, hopefully herO still hasn’t found the key to PvT Maru has one of the easiest draw. He gets to do his usual spanking in solar Solar can never catch a break and be on the opposite bracket of Maru I don’t think Solar into herO (Maru’s probable draw) is easier in TvZ / TvP than Serral running into RagnaroK and Bunny or Clem | ||
tigera6
2903 Posts
On November 20 2022 00:09 TossHeroes wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2022 17:37 Poopi wrote: Difficult bracket for Maru, hopefully herO still hasn’t found the key to PvT Maru has one of the easiest draw. He gets to do his usual spanking in solar Solar can never catch a break and be on the opposite bracket of Maru Outside of the top 4 seeds which were SET to meet in the SemiFinal, who could give Maru a run? I know the Solar meme but its more about him running to Maru early, not about Maru "getting a break" for getting Solar instead of who? Heromarine? Showtime? Astrea? Neeb? You think Maru would have WAY more difficult series against those guys? Btw, seems like Nightmare is the magical run this time around. | ||
Die4Ever
United States17430 Posts
Also at least yesterday, the break music was way way too loud, especially the "guess what unit" segments | ||
dysenterymd
1051 Posts
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sudete
Singapore3040 Posts
And once again PvP rears its ugly head. Knocks out people who are actually decent | ||
Poopi
France12466 Posts
On November 20 2022 00:39 sudete wrote: Thanks to nightmare, scarlett has a free run to the quarterfinals And once again PvP rears its ugly head. Knocks out people who are actually decent Hasn't Neeb started university by now? He has probably less time to practice the various match-ups and is more prone to getting upset imo. NightMare had a bad start in group stage 1, but his knockout bracket run was pretty insane, so his form and momentum is probably through the roof, giving him the confidence needed to perform at his best! I hope to see him play well vs Scarlett, and she is probably happy to play a different opponent than the one she has played a thousand times in DH:NA? | ||
Zergiica
Croatia113 Posts
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