On November 21 2022 08:22 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
This can't actually go on, can it? Hero is definitely dead, right?
This can't actually go on, can it? Hero is definitely dead, right?
Thank Adun. I was starting to doubt myself.
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5809 Posts
On November 21 2022 08:22 Fanatic-Templar wrote: This can't actually go on, can it? Hero is definitely dead, right? Thank Adun. I was starting to doubt myself. | ||
SEB2610
45 Posts
On November 21 2022 08:22 Vindicare605 wrote: herO's broke. Bunny was in his natural for too long he can't afford to make units, and tech to Storm and Blink at the same time. Already had 5 stalkers out (or was it 4?) and blink only costs 50/50 more than zealot legs which he was getting | ||
Brutaxilos
United States2572 Posts
On November 21 2022 08:27 tigera6 wrote: If Bunny win this tournament, I would put him ahead of Clem , sorry. I mean Bunny 3-0d Clem so yeah. | ||
Poopi
France12454 Posts
On November 21 2022 08:26 tigera6 wrote: Meomaika could have saved both Serral and herO from Bunny, but he messed up, cant trust that guy, lol. The hero we did not know we needed, but we were not worthy | ||
Vindicare605
United States15616 Posts
On November 21 2022 08:27 tigera6 wrote: If Bunny win this tournament, I would put him ahead of Clem , sorry. He was already ahead of Clem. Clem has/had better TvZ, but that seems to have closed up. Clem has/had roughly equal TvP, but that now seems to be Bunny favored. But Bunny has much better TvT, and has had much better TvT for a while. When two players are roughly equal in 2/3 match ups but one of them is considerably better in the third, then player with the better mirror play is better. Clem is lucky he plays in EU where his weak TvT never gets exploited. Bunny meanwhile has to die to Maru on the regular. | ||
Vindicare605
United States15616 Posts
On November 21 2022 08:28 SEB2610 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2022 08:22 Vindicare605 wrote: On November 21 2022 08:21 SEB2610 wrote: Not blink? herO's broke. Bunny was in his natural for too long he can't afford to make units, and tech to Storm and Blink at the same time. Already had 5 stalkers out (or was it 4?) and blink only costs 50/50 more than zealot legs which he was getting herO was investing in Storm. Storm without Charge is almost worthless. Given a choice between Blink and Charge if you're going for Storm and Archons, you take Charge 10/10 times. | ||
Poopi
France12454 Posts
On November 21 2022 08:32 Vindicare605 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2022 08:27 tigera6 wrote: If Bunny win this tournament, I would put him ahead of Clem , sorry. He's already ahead of Clem. Clem has/had better TvZ, but that seems to have closed up. Clem has/had roughly equal TvP, but that now seems to be Bunny favored. But Bunny has much better TvT, and has had much better TvT for a while. When two players are roughly equal in 2/3 match ups but one of them is considerably better in the third, then player with the better mirror play is better. Clem is lucky he plays in EU where his relatively weak TvT never gets exploited. Bunny meanwhile has to die to Maru on the regular. Bunny is the only terran with a positive record vs Maru this year apparently: us terrans have found a new deity to worship, let’s bow to Bunny 🐰 | ||
Vindicare605
United States15616 Posts
On November 21 2022 08:34 Poopi wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2022 08:32 Vindicare605 wrote: On November 21 2022 08:27 tigera6 wrote: If Bunny win this tournament, I would put him ahead of Clem , sorry. He's already ahead of Clem. Clem has/had better TvZ, but that seems to have closed up. Clem has/had roughly equal TvP, but that now seems to be Bunny favored. But Bunny has much better TvT, and has had much better TvT for a while. When two players are roughly equal in 2/3 match ups but one of them is considerably better in the third, then player with the better mirror play is better. Clem is lucky he plays in EU where his relatively weak TvT never gets exploited. Bunny meanwhile has to die to Maru on the regular. Bunny is the only terran with a positive record vs Maru this year apparently: us terrans have found a new deity to worship, let’s bow to Bunny 🐰 I never bow to the current hotness when it comes to Terran players. I know who I like. Bunny is hot and he's FINALLY getting the credit he deserves from the foreign scene which is LONG overdue. But Maru is still the superior player. | ||
tigera6
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Asha
United Kingdom38056 Posts
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dysenterymd
1044 Posts
On November 21 2022 08:32 Vindicare605 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2022 08:27 tigera6 wrote: If Bunny win this tournament, I would put him ahead of Clem , sorry. He was already ahead of Clem. Clem has/had better TvZ, but that seems to have closed up. Clem has/had roughly equal TvP, but that now seems to be Bunny favored. But Bunny has much better TvT, and has had much better TvT for a while. When two players are roughly equal in 2/3 match ups but one of them is considerably better in the third, then player with the better mirror play is better. Clem is lucky he plays in EU where his weak TvT never gets exploited. Bunny meanwhile has to die to Maru on the regular. Clem's overhyped because of his good record against Serral/Reynor. Still, without a breakout offline performance I don't think you can be considered a true top dog. | ||
mark_lenders
74 Posts
On November 21 2022 02:23 Nakajin wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2022 01:51 mark_lenders wrote: On November 20 2022 06:21 Die4Ever wrote: Nobody knows how old Nightmare is? Lol it's not even on Liquipedia i don't know if they removed the information because it was wrong, but a couple of years ago liquipedia said he was born in 1999 I think you have just earn the title of most dedicaded SC2 fan in the world. well, with all the army shanenigans knowing the age of every single korean players should be the bare minimum | ||
Poopi
France12454 Posts
On November 21 2022 08:36 Vindicare605 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2022 08:34 Poopi wrote: On November 21 2022 08:32 Vindicare605 wrote: On November 21 2022 08:27 tigera6 wrote: If Bunny win this tournament, I would put him ahead of Clem , sorry. He's already ahead of Clem. Clem has/had better TvZ, but that seems to have closed up. Clem has/had roughly equal TvP, but that now seems to be Bunny favored. But Bunny has much better TvT, and has had much better TvT for a while. When two players are roughly equal in 2/3 match ups but one of them is considerably better in the third, then player with the better mirror play is better. Clem is lucky he plays in EU where his relatively weak TvT never gets exploited. Bunny meanwhile has to die to Maru on the regular. Bunny is the only terran with a positive record vs Maru this year apparently: us terrans have found a new deity to worship, let’s bow to Bunny 🐰 I never bow to the current hotness when it comes to Terran players. I know who I like. Bunny is hot and he's FINALLY getting the credit he deserves from the foreign scene which is LONG overdue. But Maru is still the superior player. That’s the problem with Maru, he is other worldly so if you try to compare him to other players you just know nobody has played as incredible StarCraft for so long. But still, Bunny is a credible candidate for Katowice championship after this DH imo | ||
Die4Ever
United States17421 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5809 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States15616 Posts
On November 21 2022 08:38 dysenterymd wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2022 08:32 Vindicare605 wrote: On November 21 2022 08:27 tigera6 wrote: If Bunny win this tournament, I would put him ahead of Clem , sorry. He was already ahead of Clem. Clem has/had better TvZ, but that seems to have closed up. Clem has/had roughly equal TvP, but that now seems to be Bunny favored. But Bunny has much better TvT, and has had much better TvT for a while. When two players are roughly equal in 2/3 match ups but one of them is considerably better in the third, then player with the better mirror play is better. Clem is lucky he plays in EU where his weak TvT never gets exploited. Bunny meanwhile has to die to Maru on the regular. Clem's overhyped because of his good record against Serral/Reynor, plus he's clearly very talented. Still, without a breakout offline performance I don't think you can be considered a true top dog. Don't get me wrong, Clem is EXCEPTIONAL for his age. He's a true prodigy in the vein of Reynor. The best of the new generation. He has plenty of time to take the crown of top dog for himself. But he's not there yet. His TvZ is world class. He can beat any Zerg in the world but his other two match ups are big question marks, especially his TvT. Has been the case since he first blew up. It just doesn't matter in the EU scene because the only top quality players you have to worry about in EU are Zergs. So being elite vs Zerg is all you really need to win in the EU scene. Being simply pro level in the other match ups is enough. Unfortunately in this community. Anyone that's good in the EU scene automatically gets blown up to be the best in the world, because Europeans are like that. Events like this are a nice reminder of how far he has to go if he really wants to claim the title of actual best in the world. | ||
Vindicare605
United States15616 Posts
On November 21 2022 08:39 Poopi wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2022 08:36 Vindicare605 wrote: On November 21 2022 08:34 Poopi wrote: On November 21 2022 08:32 Vindicare605 wrote: On November 21 2022 08:27 tigera6 wrote: If Bunny win this tournament, I would put him ahead of Clem , sorry. He's already ahead of Clem. Clem has/had better TvZ, but that seems to have closed up. Clem has/had roughly equal TvP, but that now seems to be Bunny favored. But Bunny has much better TvT, and has had much better TvT for a while. When two players are roughly equal in 2/3 match ups but one of them is considerably better in the third, then player with the better mirror play is better. Clem is lucky he plays in EU where his relatively weak TvT never gets exploited. Bunny meanwhile has to die to Maru on the regular. Bunny is the only terran with a positive record vs Maru this year apparently: us terrans have found a new deity to worship, let’s bow to Bunny 🐰 I never bow to the current hotness when it comes to Terran players. I know who I like. Bunny is hot and he's FINALLY getting the credit he deserves from the foreign scene which is LONG overdue. But Maru is still the superior player. That’s the problem with Maru, he is other worldly so if you try to compare him to other players you just know nobody has played as incredible StarCraft for so long. But still, Bunny is a credible candidate for Katowice championship after this DH imo That's the difference with me I guess. Bunny's DH performance isn't that remarkable to me. He's simply validating what I've already known he was capable of. If he hadn't blown up this tournament he was going to blow up Katowice. He was due. Is he the next Horseman or is he the next Cure? Good enough to blow up for a while then fade back to the second tier of Terrans. That is what I am waiting to see. | ||
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United States15616 Posts
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