EPT[GSL] Super Tournament 1 - Day One - Page 4
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Lokol18
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Poopi
France13022 Posts
On January 18 2022 12:25 Lokol18 wrote: To those saying that maru is getting lucky with his brackets, let's not forget that just a couple of days ago he was paired against dark in the ro8 of dh last chance (the remaining players were solar, reynor, cure, zest, time, and drg) He is not lucky, people are just unlucky to meet him and he is so far ahead of the competition at this point that any player in front of him will be the underdog and you could consider Maru « lucky ». Winning Katowice is far from a sure thing though. He might win ST1 since Rogue could have blocked him but he lost to Bunny. | ||
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HeroSandro
542 Posts
On January 18 2022 12:25 Lokol18 wrote: To those saying that maru is getting lucky with his brackets, let's not forget that just a couple of days ago he was paired against dark in the ro8 of dh last chance (the remaining players were solar, reynor, cure, zest, time, and drg) I would rather talk about favorable brackets than players getting lucky. Everyone has people and matchups they would rather play than others. For the best players most brackets are favorable. For Maru i would say that every TvT is really favorable. The amount of really good terrans is quite low at the moment, and especially really good TvT terrans. | ||
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
And Tasteless in g1 saying something like "Bunny is in trouble", 5 second later "yeah so zerg loses the fight, 5 seconds later Rogue GG's... Artosis "I don't want to be a Debbie downer, but I'm worried Rogue barely wins this game" after Bunny kills 11 drones... I wish they would stop with all the damn prognostication, it's become a trend and it is a lazy way to fill time and talk without providing any actual PBP. They think they have enough experience to slide by with it and they don't, because nobody does or ever will. Someone can always throw and miracle comebacks do happen. "Bunny gets in and kills 11 drones! Great start for him, let's see if he can parlay this advantage into something bigger!" Would be perfectly acceptable from them. They are still great, I just know how much better they can be. That's all. Great for Bunny and Maru looks incredible. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On January 18 2022 19:04 J. Corsair wrote: Great games... Tastosis really need to consider whether they want their job anymore. I am very forgiving and a fan of both of them, but missing the baneling nest kill and speculating as to why Rogue would cancel baneling speed... I was honestly shocked. And Tasteless in g1 saying something like "Bunny is in trouble", 5 second later "yeah so zerg loses the fight, 5 seconds later Rogue GG's... Artosis "I don't want to be a Debbie downer, but I'm worried Rogue barely wins this game" after Bunny kills 11 drones... I wish they would stop with all the damn prognostication, it's become a trend and it is a lazy way to fill time and talk without providing any actual PBP. They think they have enough experience to slide by with it and they don't, because nobody does or ever will. Someone can always throw and miracle comebacks do happen. "Bunny gets in and kills 11 drones! Great start for him, let's see if he can parlay this advantage into something bigger!" Would be perfectly acceptable from them. They are still great, I just know how much better they can be. That's all. Great for Bunny and Maru looks incredible. THe prediction part is quite hilarious for another reason. When you see the game is over but there's still time to play to finish the crazy advantage. All the casters pretend the losing player is going to get some miracle and win the game, nobody says - well, the game is over and the player X is waiting to collect his victory while the player Y is hoping for a miracle. But here we are predicting literally everything else xD I still remember one HotS game, where the 2-base Protoss lost 12 probes to a mine drop. EVERYBODY knew it's over. Protoss doesn't have anything to recover. The silence from Tastosis was defeaning, because what can you say - well, that was anticlimactic, he just missed a single medevac and lost the game?  Anyway, rant over :D | ||
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tigera6
3516 Posts
On January 18 2022 12:25 Lokol18 wrote: To those saying that maru is getting lucky with his brackets, let's not forget that just a couple of days ago he was paired against dark in the ro8 of dh last chance (the remaining players were solar, reynor, cure, zest, time, and drg) Well, Serral did win the DH Fall Global Final by dodging Dark and Clem on the bracket, was it because he lucky? or was it because "Serral is the GOAT"? I do feel like as long as Maru doesnt have to face a long line of Zerg players in the bracket stage, he should be favorable. My worst fear for Maru in IEM would be facing any of Rogue-Dark-Serral-Reynor consecutively in the bracket stage, even if he got a 60+% win rate against those guys, thats still a 20% chance to win against all of them to win a championship. | ||
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HeroSandro
542 Posts
On January 18 2022 19:38 tigera6 wrote: Well, Serral did win the DH Fall Global Final by dodging Dark and Clem on the bracket, was it because he lucky? or was it because "Serral is the GOAT"? I do feel like as long as Maru doesnt have to face a long line of Zerg players in the bracket stage, he should be favorable. My worst fear for Maru in IEM would be facing any of Rogue-Dark-Serral-Reynor consecutively in the bracket stage, even if he got a 60+% win rate against those guys, thats still a 20% chance to win against all of them to win a championship. I think Rogue, Dark and Serral are the top three players Maru would like to avoid in any case. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
On January 18 2022 19:04 J. Corsair wrote: Great games... Tastosis really need to consider whether they want their job anymore. I am very forgiving and a fan of both of them, but missing the baneling nest kill and speculating as to why Rogue would cancel baneling speed... I was honestly shocked. And Tasteless in g1 saying something like "Bunny is in trouble", 5 second later "yeah so zerg loses the fight, 5 seconds later Rogue GG's... Artosis "I don't want to be a Debbie downer, but I'm worried Rogue barely wins this game" after Bunny kills 11 drones... I wish they would stop with all the damn prognostication, it's become a trend and it is a lazy way to fill time and talk without providing any actual PBP. They think they have enough experience to slide by with it and they don't, because nobody does or ever will. Someone can always throw and miracle comebacks do happen. "Bunny gets in and kills 11 drones! Great start for him, let's see if he can parlay this advantage into something bigger!" Would be perfectly acceptable from them. They are still great, I just know how much better they can be. That's all. Great for Bunny and Maru looks incredible. Nah disagree... Tastosis are still the GOAT casters and everything they do is good | ||
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
On January 18 2022 19:24 deacon.frost wrote: THe prediction part is quite hilarious for another reason. When you see the game is over but there's still time to play to finish the crazy advantage. All the casters pretend the losing player is going to get some miracle and win the game, nobody says - well, the game is over and the player X is waiting to collect his victory while the player Y is hoping for a miracle. But here we are predicting literally everything else xD I still remember one HotS game, where the 2-base Protoss lost 12 probes to a mine drop. EVERYBODY knew it's over. Protoss doesn't have anything to recover. The silence from Tastosis was defeaning, because what can you say - well, that was anticlimactic, he just missed a single medevac and lost the game? Anyway, rant over :DI know exactly what you mean lol. | ||
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buzz_bender
446 Posts
On January 18 2022 19:40 HeroSandro wrote: I think Rogue, Dark and Serral are the top three players Maru would like to avoid in any case. To be fair as well, Maru is also the one player that no one wants to face. | ||
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Husyelt
United States839 Posts
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HeroSandro
542 Posts
On January 18 2022 23:27 buzz_bender wrote: To be fair as well, Maru is also the one player that no one wants to face. I think Serral would take Maru any day over Rogue  | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On January 18 2022 19:38 tigera6 wrote: Well, Serral did win the DH Fall Global Final by dodging Dark and Clem on the bracket, was it because he lucky? or was it because "Serral is the GOAT"? I do feel like as long as Maru doesnt have to face a long line of Zerg players in the bracket stage, he should be favorable. My worst fear for Maru in IEM would be facing any of Rogue-Dark-Serral-Reynor consecutively in the bracket stage, even if he got a 60+% win rate against those guys, thats still a 20% chance to win against all of them to win a championship. Dont forget Jin Air people, Marus achilles heel has always been his teammates for the longest time. Even if Trap doesnt look particularly good at any given moment, or Rogue, or sOs, you never know when they'll just kind of show up against Maru for some reason. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
But feels like he got slightly lucky catching Rogue on an off-day. And the tournament is less epic and interesting without Rogue. Zest v Bunny is likely to be a clown fiesta - whoever advancing will likely be smashed by Maru in SF or Dark in finals. ST always throw up weird upsets. Not sure it's because the tournament is ill-timed (after GSL when players are burn-out or before a big tourney like Katowice where players want to hide prep). It's been ages where we had a truly epic final (last that I remember was Dark v Maru). | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2467 Posts
On January 19 2022 12:44 RKC wrote: On one hand, feel happy for Bunny. A grinder like Solar who deserves a trophy. But feels like he got slightly lucky catching Rogue on an off-day. And the tournament is less epic and interesting without Rogue. Zest v Bunny is likely to be a clown fiesta - whoever advancing will likely be smashed by Maru in SF or Dark in finals. ST always throw up weird upsets. Not sure it's because the tournament is ill-timed (after GSL when players are burn-out or before a big tourney like Katowice where players want to hide prep). It's been ages where we had a truly epic final (last that I remember was Dark v Maru). I thought that some didn't like Rogue to be in the tournament just because he was accused of killing hype? Mostly it came from the exaggerated 'GOAT' fans but the true Zerg or Sc2 fans didn't care much as they just love having all these nerds playing in the tournament. In my opinion, Rogue vs Maru in recent ST2 tourney has surpassed the epic final we got from Dark vs Maru in term of excitements and quality of game offered. But, Dark vs Maru in WESG tourney was still embedded in my memory till to this date. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On January 19 2022 17:06 swarminfestor wrote: I thought that some didn't like Rogue to be in the tournament just because he was accused of killing hype? Mostly it came from the exaggerated 'GOAT' fans but the true Zerg or Sc2 fans didn't care much as they just love having all these nerds playing in the tournament. In my opinion, Rogue vs Maru in recent ST2 tourney has surpassed the epic final we got from Dark vs Maru in term of excitements and quality of game offered. But, Dark vs Maru in WESG tourney was still embedded in my memory till to this date. I am some. Same for Maru, if they had both lost in the first round I'd have been pretty hyped for ST | ||
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encoded_evil
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