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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3227 Posts
September 27 2021 11:32 GMT
#101
On September 27 2021 20:31 Durnuu wrote:
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On September 27 2021 20:30 tigera6 wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:27 darklycid wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:25 Zaros wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:24 darklycid wrote:
Still can't get over how incredibly stupid this loss was by rogue.


Give credit to Zest though he spotted his opportunity and he pounced, a few more seconds and all those spines would have finished enough probably to block zest.

Zest did the expected play nothing exceptional imo, Rogue just went full retard.

Rogue just mis-read Zest build in that last game, he thought Zest would commit more into Air units, seeing the triple Stargate and Fleet Beacon. Thats why he made 30+ Corruptors to smah all the Skytoss. Unfortuantely Zest already halfwat transition back into ground, and Rogue was left with useless 20+ Corruptor and cant make anything else because he was supply blocked.
Zest strategy was great, although that is not shown that clear on the face value.

There's misreading the game, and there is killing all the Stargates with your corruptors.

What else hes supporsed to do with those Corruptors? There is a reason why people dont over-produce Corruptors.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-27 11:33:37
September 27 2021 11:32 GMT
#102
On September 27 2021 20:31 Elentos wrote:
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On September 27 2021 20:29 parksonsc wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
Rogue bo7 streak is broken finally! HOLY SHIT


He still has the record of never losing an offline final Bo7

Well we can make the records increasingly more specific sure but that just takes away meaning. The next step is gonna be "offline final bo7 against a non-Korean" followed by "offline final Bo7 on a Wednesday night while wearing a kilt"

love the Scottish specifics
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55466 Posts
September 27 2021 11:33 GMT
#103
On September 27 2021 20:31 Die4Ever wrote:
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On September 27 2021 20:20 swarminfestor wrote:
Is this first Protoss's GSL win after like 3 years?

last protoss Code S champ was Stats over soO in 2017 season 1

This was also the first Code S Bo7 win for a Protoss over a Zerg since 2019 season 1 when Classic beat Dark 4-3.
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-27 11:36:55
September 27 2021 11:33 GMT
#104
On September 27 2021 20:31 Die4Ever wrote:
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On September 27 2021 20:20 swarminfestor wrote:
Is this first Protoss's GSL win after like 3 years?

last protoss Code S champ was Stats over soO in 2017 season 1


It has been four years since then. Protoss fans must be happy. I am cheering for Zest to win now instead of Trap.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12060 Posts
September 27 2021 11:36 GMT
#105
On September 27 2021 20:33 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2021 20:31 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:20 swarminfestor wrote:
Is this first Protoss's GSL win after like 3 years?

last protoss Code S champ was Stats over soO in 2017 season 1


It was four years since then. Protoss fans must be happy. I am cheering for Zest to win now instead of Trap.


I am happy of course but also it was more Rogue losing this than Zest winning so it doesn't feel super satisfying
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12762 Posts
September 27 2021 11:37 GMT
#106
I had to miss the games from 3 onwards, how was it? As epic as the scoreline suggests? :D will watch the vods ASAP either way, fucking glad Zest did it!
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3227 Posts
September 27 2021 11:46 GMT
#107
On September 27 2021 20:37 Poopi wrote:
I had to miss the games from 3 onwards, how was it? As epic as the scoreline suggests? :D will watch the vods ASAP either way, fucking glad Zest did it!

First 5 games were bops, on either side. Last 2 games were pretty good mid-game PvZ, but Zest was playing very solid in the end while Rogue made the wrong read a couple times.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-27 12:37:22
September 27 2021 12:36 GMT
#108
On September 27 2021 20:36 Nebuchad wrote:
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On September 27 2021 20:33 swarminfestor wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:31 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:20 swarminfestor wrote:
Is this first Protoss's GSL win after like 3 years?

last protoss Code S champ was Stats over soO in 2017 season 1


It was four years since then. Protoss fans must be happy. I am cheering for Zest to win now instead of Trap.


I am happy of course but also it was more Rogue losing this than Zest winning so it doesn't feel super satisfying


Well, if you look at it this way you should also agree Dream was the one losing the ro4 last time.
I am super satisfied, personally!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33228 Posts
September 27 2021 12:40 GMT
#109
On September 27 2021 20:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2021 20:29 parksonsc wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
Rogue bo7 streak is broken finally! HOLY SHIT


He still has the record of never losing an offline final Bo7

Well we can make the records increasingly more specific sure but that just takes away meaning. The next step is gonna be "offline final bo7 against a non-Korean" followed by "offline final Bo7 on a Wednesday night while wearing a kilt"


all of our interesting records are getting actively killed off with time; need to invent more
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
September 27 2021 12:56 GMT
#110
I'm not even a Zest fan and I was rooting for him today. Well done. I'm happy with anyone winning from here on out.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17624 Posts
September 27 2021 12:58 GMT
#111
On September 27 2021 21:40 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2021 20:31 Elentos wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:29 parksonsc wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
Rogue bo7 streak is broken finally! HOLY SHIT


He still has the record of never losing an offline final Bo7

Well we can make the records increasingly more specific sure but that just takes away meaning. The next step is gonna be "offline final bo7 against a non-Korean" followed by "offline final Bo7 on a Wednesday night while wearing a kilt"


all of our interesting records are getting actively killed off with time; need to invent more

eventually G5L will happen
then I guess we can talk about G6L
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12762 Posts
September 27 2021 13:06 GMT
#112
On September 27 2021 21:58 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2021 21:40 Waxangel wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:31 Elentos wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:29 parksonsc wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
Rogue bo7 streak is broken finally! HOLY SHIT


He still has the record of never losing an offline final Bo7

Well we can make the records increasingly more specific sure but that just takes away meaning. The next step is gonna be "offline final bo7 against a non-Korean" followed by "offline final Bo7 on a Wednesday night while wearing a kilt"


all of our interesting records are getting actively killed off with time; need to invent more

eventually G5L will happen
then I guess we can talk about G6L

Might not if there is no GSL after the ESL deal -> Rogue needs to win 2 out of 3 (even if it continues due to military?), Maru might lose to Trap or Rogue over and over.
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55466 Posts
September 27 2021 13:53 GMT
#113
On September 27 2021 21:58 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2021 21:40 Waxangel wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:31 Elentos wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:29 parksonsc wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
Rogue bo7 streak is broken finally! HOLY SHIT


He still has the record of never losing an offline final Bo7

Well we can make the records increasingly more specific sure but that just takes away meaning. The next step is gonna be "offline final bo7 against a non-Korean" followed by "offline final Bo7 on a Wednesday night while wearing a kilt"


all of our interesting records are getting actively killed off with time; need to invent more

eventually G5L will happen
then I guess we can talk about G6L

But the whole thing with G5L is that 5 can be read as S. We'd have to come up with a new thing for 6 titles.

Luckily GSL is sponsored by Hot6.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1179 Posts
September 27 2021 14:00 GMT
#114
This is a perfect opportunity for Trap, would love for him to win this season but Zest winning his final season would be epic too. Cure is the least interesting champion, but a new champion would still be cool.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3227 Posts
September 27 2021 14:14 GMT
#115
On September 27 2021 22:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2021 21:58 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 27 2021 21:40 Waxangel wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:31 Elentos wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:29 parksonsc wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
Rogue bo7 streak is broken finally! HOLY SHIT


He still has the record of never losing an offline final Bo7

Well we can make the records increasingly more specific sure but that just takes away meaning. The next step is gonna be "offline final bo7 against a non-Korean" followed by "offline final Bo7 on a Wednesday night while wearing a kilt"


all of our interesting records are getting actively killed off with time; need to invent more

eventually G5L will happen
then I guess we can talk about G6L

But the whole thing with G5L is that 5 can be read as S. We'd have to come up with a new thing for 6 titles.

Luckily GSL is sponsored by Hot6.

They do have a separate G5L trophy, so it means quite a lot to the GSL and the players.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19214 Posts
September 27 2021 14:16 GMT
#116
Rogue's recent bo7 loss to Maru kind of took the wind out of Rogue losing a bo7 series. Impressive series from Zest though.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
parksonsc
Profile Joined May 2019
175 Posts
September 27 2021 14:20 GMT
#117
On September 27 2021 20:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2021 20:29 parksonsc wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
Rogue bo7 streak is broken finally! HOLY SHIT


He still has the record of never losing an offline final Bo7

Well we can make the records increasingly more specific sure but that just takes away meaning. The next step is gonna be "offline final bo7 against a non-Korean" followed by "offline final Bo7 on a Wednesday night while wearing a kilt"


I get the point but I think it firstly originated as offline Bo7 finals before someone realized it was also offline Bo7 overall. And given that most legit tournaments end with a Bo7 finals so It's fair to say Rogue never lost a premier finals and it's really a record.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
September 27 2021 14:28 GMT
#118
On September 27 2021 23:20 parksonsc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2021 20:31 Elentos wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:29 parksonsc wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
Rogue bo7 streak is broken finally! HOLY SHIT


He still has the record of never losing an offline final Bo7

Well we can make the records increasingly more specific sure but that just takes away meaning. The next step is gonna be "offline final bo7 against a non-Korean" followed by "offline final Bo7 on a Wednesday night while wearing a kilt"


I get the point but I think it firstly originated as offline Bo7 finals before someone realized it was also offline Bo7 overall. And given that most legit tournaments end with a Bo7 finals so It's fair to say Rogue never lost a premier finals and it's really a record.


Exactly. Besides, it's always more about the clutch factor of finals, less about the BO7 factor. The record extension of BO7 semi-final was more of a bonus.

Not sure if Rogue has lost BO5 semi-final in the past (Super Tourney?). But if he has, I don't see why BO7 becomes a distinguishing factor.
gg no re thx
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
September 27 2021 15:50 GMT
#119
On September 27 2021 23:14 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2021 22:53 Elentos wrote:
On September 27 2021 21:58 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 27 2021 21:40 Waxangel wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:31 Elentos wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:29 parksonsc wrote:
On September 27 2021 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
Rogue bo7 streak is broken finally! HOLY SHIT


He still has the record of never losing an offline final Bo7

Well we can make the records increasingly more specific sure but that just takes away meaning. The next step is gonna be "offline final bo7 against a non-Korean" followed by "offline final Bo7 on a Wednesday night while wearing a kilt"


all of our interesting records are getting actively killed off with time; need to invent more

eventually G5L will happen
then I guess we can talk about G6L

But the whole thing with G5L is that 5 can be read as S. We'd have to come up with a new thing for 6 titles.

Luckily GSL is sponsored by Hot6.

They do have a separate G5L trophy, so it means quite a lot to the GSL and the players.


Plus it's flat so you can make a podium with the 4 GSL trophy and put the G5L trophy on top, save a lot of place on the trophy shelf.
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-27 15:59:42
September 27 2021 15:59 GMT
#120
Can't believe some people here are saying Rogue "misread" Zest in the last game.

No. That was his plan all along. Make a ton of Corruptors, kill all air, then make BL and kill the ground cause air takes too long to remake (specially since he killed the stargates) so he knew zests wouldn't go air.

He didn't misread the build. He literally dictated what zest would do.

The reason he lost is he made BL at the top left of the map instead of basically anywhere else. If he makes them at his third? He wins. At his fourth? He wins. At the middle right? He wins.

He literally lost because he foolishly made his BL in literally the worst place possible because he was planning on a quick attack, but didn't consider Zest would attack him slightly sooner and through the right. If zest takes literally 10 seconds more before attacking Zest loses.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
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