[GSL 2021] Code S - Group B

On April 08 2021 19:07 DarkGamer wrote:
I like tasteless and artosis but this game was a great miss-cast. solar really played a great early and a decent midgame (only the creep spread was medicore through the harashment). the casters really didnt cast the game the way it was going. im very suprised how well solar got into the lategame beside maru was doing decent damage in the midgame.
really well played by both.

On April 08 2021 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:

it may be the better style at that level though as the top Zergs like Dark, Reynor, Serral or even Solar on a good day seem almost impenetrable against midgame-pushes

On April 08 2021 19:47 Javah wrote:
Maru's style in TvZ is so hard to play, I wonder if he ended up playing this way because of his injury but it doesn't seem lighter than the regular one on hands & shoulders and you have to grind Z into resources depletion every other game...

On April 08 2021 20:00 lolfail9001 wrote:

It is not lighter on actions, but it is lighter on mouse movement compared to good ol' bio pushes imho.

On April 08 2021 19:47 Javah wrote:
Maru's style in TvZ is so hard to play, I wonder if he ended up playing this way because of his injury but it doesn't seem lighter than the regular one on hands & shoulders and you have to grind Z into resources depletion every other game...

On April 08 2021 20:00 lolfail9001 wrote:

It is not lighter on actions, but it is lighter on mouse movement compared to good ol' bio pushes imho.

On April 08 2021 20:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
Definition of outclassed. Same exact build TOTALLY different results.

On April 08 2021 20:49 DarkGamer wrote:


game 1 (dream got "outclassed") or game 2 (maru got "outlcassed")? xD

On April 08 2021 21:00 Argonauta wrote:
Maru is going to crush Hurricane next

On April 08 2021 21:12 deacon.frost wrote:
Cure already into 3rd CC, his photo will be next to the greed word in a dictionary

On April 08 2021 21:17 darklycid wrote:

Is there even place left between all those bomber and marineking pics?

On April 08 2021 21:15 Charoisaur wrote:

he faces Maru in the ro8 though

On April 08 2021 21:21 Nakajin wrote:


Is it set in stone?

On April 08 2021 21:25 Vindicare605 wrote:


First place of Group B plays second place of Group A and vice versa. Same deal with groups D and C.

It always works that way doesn't it? Ever since they started doing Group Selections which was AGES ago.

On April 08 2021 21:28 deacon.frost wrote:

im starting to think Nakajin didn't realize that Hurricane already advanced :D

On April 08 2021 21:28 Vindicare605 wrote:
Ugh I hate that this map is FINALLY out of the ladder map pool but is still plaguing GSL.

I've never liked this map, not since I first laid eyes on it.

On April 08 2021 20:25 Hider wrote:


I think it's very a different skillset from the one terran normally practices. Most terrans have historically gotten success by playing a fast-paced game and outplaying the opponent in terms of multitasking and micro in the midgame.

However, beating Lurkers late-game requires a completely different mindset. You don't want to trade armies, instead you want to play a more controlled and "strategically" well-thought out game while being good at using multiple different control groups.

When terrans complain about lurkers imba, what they really are saying is that "it's imba when I am am trading armies". But lurkers are not imba if you play a defensive style and get a critical mass of siege tanks. But terran players are just not attempting to learn that playstyle because their mindset is so determined to just attack-attack - that's what TvZ has been for 10 years.

I think eventually all terrans need to learn that playstyle - it's either that or they need to be so superior in the early midgame (as Clem is) that they generate significant enough leads in that stage of the game.

On April 08 2021 20:25 Hider wrote:


I think it's very a different skillset from the one terran normally practices. Most terrans have historically gotten success by playing a fast-paced game and outplaying the opponent in terms of multitasking and micro in the midgame.

However, beating Lurkers late-game requires a completely different mindset. You don't want to trade armies, instead you want to play a more controlled and "strategically" well-thought out game while being good at using multiple different control groups.

When terrans complain about lurkers imba, what they really are saying is that "it's imba when I am am trading armies". But lurkers are not imba if you play a defensive style and get a critical mass of siege tanks. But terran players are just not attempting to learn that playstyle because their mindset is so determined to just attack-attack - that's what TvZ has been for 10 years.

I think eventually all terrans need to learn that playstyle - it's either that or they need to be so superior in the early midgame (as Clem is) that they generate significant enough leads in that stage of the game.