• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:15
CEST 13:15
KST 20:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 234ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon415.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool 60% Keyboards Viable for Starcraft? Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6112 users

DH Masters Winter: Season Finals - Page 61

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 59 60 61 62 Next
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
November 15 2020 18:28 GMT
#1201
On November 16 2020 03:27 darklycid wrote:
Serral just lucky he was able to dodge clem and reynor

probably not as inaccurate as the clown face might lead to believe tbh
Sim999
Profile Joined July 2020
39 Posts
November 15 2020 18:29 GMT
#1202
P v Z forever the worst matchup : )
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 15 2020 18:29 GMT
#1203
On November 16 2020 03:24 royalroadweed wrote:
Worst force fields 2020? 3 layers and every one had a gap.


I swear the third layer was tight, but the middle forcefields disappeared almost instantly--he might have accidentally clipped his colossus with those.
ytherik
Profile Joined July 2020
199 Posts
November 15 2020 18:29 GMT
#1204
On November 16 2020 03:27 darklycid wrote:
Serral just lucky he was able to dodge clem and reynor


There was a nice deal of bracket luck involved in this run. Probably the easiest group in the group stage and then the best bracket he could have wished for.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
November 15 2020 18:32 GMT
#1205
On November 16 2020 03:26 sneakyfox wrote:
bah


yeah
I Protoss winner, could it be?
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
November 15 2020 18:32 GMT
#1206
Serral most definitely would have had a hard time vs. Reynor or Clem, but they didn't make it, so it doesn't matter.

The final was kinda meh, but ZvP is kinda meh in general. Either it ends with a timing or it ends with a slow death animation.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
November 15 2020 18:33 GMT
#1207
On November 16 2020 03:29 ytherik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 03:27 darklycid wrote:
Serral just lucky he was able to dodge clem and reynor


There was a nice deal of bracket luck involved in this run. Probably the easiest group in the group stage and then the best bracket he could have wished for.


Agree, Serral seem to be better vs Koreans than Clem for some reason (although Clem is really making strides) so any time he can dodge Clem and Reynor he has to feel good about his chances!
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
TheCheapSkate
Profile Joined August 2011
Slovenia317 Posts
November 15 2020 18:36 GMT
#1208
How surprising.. the 5th zerg wins vs toss in the finals this year
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
November 15 2020 18:49 GMT
#1209
Amazing games all around with Stats-Astrea the highlight for me.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
mpmaley86
Profile Joined May 2019
115 Posts
November 15 2020 18:50 GMT
#1210
Pretty good tournament. Was hoping Stats would have been able to win it though.
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
481 Posts
November 15 2020 19:02 GMT
#1211
Well, the next time its a ZvP finals the organizers might just give the 1st place to the zerg, just to save some time.
Poaktree
Profile Joined January 2017
165 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-15 19:08:10
November 15 2020 19:05 GMT
#1212
Conclusive proof that:
serral > stats > clem > reynor > serral

Edit:damn you autocorrect
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 15 2020 19:39 GMT
#1213
This tournament was exciting, its conclusion not so much.

I'm the least satisfied I have ever been for a Serral victory even if It's nice that he won another tournament after a not so successful year.
His ZvP is just too good at the moment; Stats leading Protoss to another victory before retiring would have been a good story but a non korean had to win this tournament after all.
Also, after reading this thread and his absurd toxicity against Serral, I feel relieved that he won.

I was rooting hard for Clem but Stats' PvT is arguably the best in the world at the moment.
It would have been great to have Clem vs Serral in a Premier final, possibly with Clem getting his first international title; he's young tho, he will have other opportunities.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12475 Posts
November 15 2020 19:40 GMT
#1214
On November 16 2020 02:07 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 02:06 Sylphan wrote:
man look how OP zerg is....


They get real quiet at times like this


Hey I notice we haven't heard much from you since the 2-1
No will to live, no wish to die
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-15 20:04:07
November 15 2020 19:58 GMT
#1215
Serral's only ever lost 2 Bo7 ZvPs in his entire competitive career: 2-4 to Welmu in 2014 and 3-4 to Neeb in 2017. He's never ever lost a Bo7 ZvP to a Korean. He's only ever lost 6 Bo3+ series to Korean protosses in LotV while winning 29 (83% win rate).
very illegal and very uncool
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
November 15 2020 20:35 GMT
#1216
On November 16 2020 04:58 argonautdice wrote:
Serral's only ever lost 2 Bo7 ZvPs in his entire competitive career: 2-4 to Welmu in 2014 and 3-4 to Neeb in 2017. He's never ever lost a Bo7 ZvP to a Korean. He's only ever lost 6 Bo3+ series to Korean protosses in LotV while winning 29 (83% win rate).

and Rogue has a 100% bo7 career winrate in all matchups.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27196 Posts
November 15 2020 20:39 GMT
#1217
On November 16 2020 05:35 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 04:58 argonautdice wrote:
Serral's only ever lost 2 Bo7 ZvPs in his entire competitive career: 2-4 to Welmu in 2014 and 3-4 to Neeb in 2017. He's never ever lost a Bo7 ZvP to a Korean. He's only ever lost 6 Bo3+ series to Korean protosses in LotV while winning 29 (83% win rate).

and Rogue has a 100% bo7 career winrate in all matchups.

Isn’t that stat for offline play?

Granted it seems unlikely that Rogue’s played many Bo7s online
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-15 22:56:53
November 15 2020 21:44 GMT
#1218
On November 16 2020 05:35 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 04:58 argonautdice wrote:
Serral's only ever lost 2 Bo7 ZvPs in his entire competitive career: 2-4 to Welmu in 2014 and 3-4 to Neeb in 2017. He's never ever lost a Bo7 ZvP to a Korean. He's only ever lost 6 Bo3+ series to Korean protosses in LotV while winning 29 (83% win rate).

and Rogue has a 100% bo7 career winrate in all matchups.


And you accused me multiple times in the past of speaking of Serral out of context?
Rogue's name just came out of the blue, the only possible connection is mentioning bo7.

By the way, yesterday Rogue lost 2-4 to DRG and if I am counting correctly his career record is 20-8 in bo7; he is 7-0 in Premier finals and offline bo7 but he played 0 against Terran and 1 against Zerg. He barely played two matchups under such conditions...

Ah, wasn't Serral supposed to be "slumping"?
lostusername123
Profile Joined October 2020
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-15 21:50:34
November 15 2020 21:49 GMT
#1219
Serral definitely slumping compared to 2018 and 2019, as I wouldnt give anyone over 30% chance to win vs Serral back then, but tournament wins are a lot about luck.

I'd still say he's the overall strongest player though.
Rubicant1
Profile Joined October 2019
115 Posts
November 15 2020 21:58 GMT
#1220
Uh oh, before this thread goes off the rails, I'm definitely curious to see what things look like next year when we (oh please God baby Jesus) hopefully have a return to live events. Will be interesting to see if having to perform in crowds again has any effect on the younger players and whether some of the veterans are able to regain any kind of advantage mentally from their experience in those conditions.
Prev 1 59 60 61 62 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CrankTV Team League
11:00
Crank Gathers S4: Group Stage
LiquipediaDiscussion
Replay Cast
10:00
HSC 29: Playoffs
CranKy Ducklings74
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 359
Lowko275
SortOf 82
Livibee 62
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 740
Shuttle 728
BeSt 550
Hyun 522
Hyuk 448
Mini 358
Horang2 350
actioN 274
Soulkey 241
Soma 240
[ Show more ]
Larva 189
EffOrt 183
Light 167
Snow 131
Mong 104
Dewaltoss 100
ZerO 92
Rush 73
Mind 73
ggaemo 72
hero 51
Sharp 50
Movie 49
sSak 48
Sexy 47
Hm[arnc] 44
soO 34
ToSsGirL 33
scan(afreeca) 30
JYJ 30
[sc1f]eonzerg 28
sorry 22
HiyA 22
Icarus 20
Sacsri 15
zelot 13
Noble 11
Sea.KH 10
IntoTheRainbow 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Dota 2
Gorgc5035
XaKoH 452
League of Legends
JimRising 428
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1383
zeus130
markeloff109
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King84
Other Games
gofns7371
FrodaN2423
singsing435
B2W.Neo182
Hui .159
Happy110
KnowMe108
ZerO(Twitch)10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick15731
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 30
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP157
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• escodisco4028
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3794
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 45m
Big Brain Bouts
4h 45m
Replay Cast
12h 45m
RSL Revival
21h 45m
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
22h 45m
Afreeca Starleague
22h 45m
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
IPSL
1d 4h
Dragon vs Ret
RSL Revival
1d 21h
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 22h
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Hawk
[ Show More ]
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.