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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
November 15 2020 18:28 GMT
#1201
On November 16 2020 03:27 darklycid wrote:
Serral just lucky he was able to dodge clem and reynor

probably not as inaccurate as the clown face might lead to believe tbh
Sim999
Profile Joined July 2020
39 Posts
November 15 2020 18:29 GMT
#1202
P v Z forever the worst matchup : )
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 15 2020 18:29 GMT
#1203
On November 16 2020 03:24 royalroadweed wrote:
Worst force fields 2020? 3 layers and every one had a gap.


I swear the third layer was tight, but the middle forcefields disappeared almost instantly--he might have accidentally clipped his colossus with those.
ytherik
Profile Joined July 2020
199 Posts
November 15 2020 18:29 GMT
#1204
On November 16 2020 03:27 darklycid wrote:
Serral just lucky he was able to dodge clem and reynor


There was a nice deal of bracket luck involved in this run. Probably the easiest group in the group stage and then the best bracket he could have wished for.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
November 15 2020 18:32 GMT
#1205
On November 16 2020 03:26 sneakyfox wrote:
bah


yeah
I Protoss winner, could it be?
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
November 15 2020 18:32 GMT
#1206
Serral most definitely would have had a hard time vs. Reynor or Clem, but they didn't make it, so it doesn't matter.

The final was kinda meh, but ZvP is kinda meh in general. Either it ends with a timing or it ends with a slow death animation.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
November 15 2020 18:33 GMT
#1207
On November 16 2020 03:29 ytherik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 03:27 darklycid wrote:
Serral just lucky he was able to dodge clem and reynor


There was a nice deal of bracket luck involved in this run. Probably the easiest group in the group stage and then the best bracket he could have wished for.


Agree, Serral seem to be better vs Koreans than Clem for some reason (although Clem is really making strides) so any time he can dodge Clem and Reynor he has to feel good about his chances!
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
TheCheapSkate
Profile Joined August 2011
Slovenia317 Posts
November 15 2020 18:36 GMT
#1208
How surprising.. the 5th zerg wins vs toss in the finals this year
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
November 15 2020 18:49 GMT
#1209
Amazing games all around with Stats-Astrea the highlight for me.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
mpmaley86
Profile Joined May 2019
115 Posts
November 15 2020 18:50 GMT
#1210
Pretty good tournament. Was hoping Stats would have been able to win it though.
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
481 Posts
November 15 2020 19:02 GMT
#1211
Well, the next time its a ZvP finals the organizers might just give the 1st place to the zerg, just to save some time.
Poaktree
Profile Joined January 2017
165 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-15 19:08:10
November 15 2020 19:05 GMT
#1212
Conclusive proof that:
serral > stats > clem > reynor > serral

Edit:damn you autocorrect
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 15 2020 19:39 GMT
#1213
This tournament was exciting, its conclusion not so much.

I'm the least satisfied I have ever been for a Serral victory even if It's nice that he won another tournament after a not so successful year.
His ZvP is just too good at the moment; Stats leading Protoss to another victory before retiring would have been a good story but a non korean had to win this tournament after all.
Also, after reading this thread and his absurd toxicity against Serral, I feel relieved that he won.

I was rooting hard for Clem but Stats' PvT is arguably the best in the world at the moment.
It would have been great to have Clem vs Serral in a Premier final, possibly with Clem getting his first international title; he's young tho, he will have other opportunities.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12450 Posts
November 15 2020 19:40 GMT
#1214
On November 16 2020 02:07 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 02:06 Sylphan wrote:
man look how OP zerg is....


They get real quiet at times like this


Hey I notice we haven't heard much from you since the 2-1
No will to live, no wish to die
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-15 20:04:07
November 15 2020 19:58 GMT
#1215
Serral's only ever lost 2 Bo7 ZvPs in his entire competitive career: 2-4 to Welmu in 2014 and 3-4 to Neeb in 2017. He's never ever lost a Bo7 ZvP to a Korean. He's only ever lost 6 Bo3+ series to Korean protosses in LotV while winning 29 (83% win rate).
very illegal and very uncool
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
November 15 2020 20:35 GMT
#1216
On November 16 2020 04:58 argonautdice wrote:
Serral's only ever lost 2 Bo7 ZvPs in his entire competitive career: 2-4 to Welmu in 2014 and 3-4 to Neeb in 2017. He's never ever lost a Bo7 ZvP to a Korean. He's only ever lost 6 Bo3+ series to Korean protosses in LotV while winning 29 (83% win rate).

and Rogue has a 100% bo7 career winrate in all matchups.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26740 Posts
November 15 2020 20:39 GMT
#1217
On November 16 2020 05:35 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 04:58 argonautdice wrote:
Serral's only ever lost 2 Bo7 ZvPs in his entire competitive career: 2-4 to Welmu in 2014 and 3-4 to Neeb in 2017. He's never ever lost a Bo7 ZvP to a Korean. He's only ever lost 6 Bo3+ series to Korean protosses in LotV while winning 29 (83% win rate).

and Rogue has a 100% bo7 career winrate in all matchups.

Isn’t that stat for offline play?

Granted it seems unlikely that Rogue’s played many Bo7s online
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-15 22:56:53
November 15 2020 21:44 GMT
#1218
On November 16 2020 05:35 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 04:58 argonautdice wrote:
Serral's only ever lost 2 Bo7 ZvPs in his entire competitive career: 2-4 to Welmu in 2014 and 3-4 to Neeb in 2017. He's never ever lost a Bo7 ZvP to a Korean. He's only ever lost 6 Bo3+ series to Korean protosses in LotV while winning 29 (83% win rate).

and Rogue has a 100% bo7 career winrate in all matchups.


And you accused me multiple times in the past of speaking of Serral out of context?
Rogue's name just came out of the blue, the only possible connection is mentioning bo7.

By the way, yesterday Rogue lost 2-4 to DRG and if I am counting correctly his career record is 20-8 in bo7; he is 7-0 in Premier finals and offline bo7 but he played 0 against Terran and 1 against Zerg. He barely played two matchups under such conditions...

Ah, wasn't Serral supposed to be "slumping"?
lostusername123
Profile Joined October 2020
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-15 21:50:34
November 15 2020 21:49 GMT
#1219
Serral definitely slumping compared to 2018 and 2019, as I wouldnt give anyone over 30% chance to win vs Serral back then, but tournament wins are a lot about luck.

I'd still say he's the overall strongest player though.
Rubicant1
Profile Joined October 2019
115 Posts
November 15 2020 21:58 GMT
#1220
Uh oh, before this thread goes off the rails, I'm definitely curious to see what things look like next year when we (oh please God baby Jesus) hopefully have a return to live events. Will be interesting to see if having to perform in crowds again has any effect on the younger players and whether some of the veterans are able to regain any kind of advantage mentally from their experience in those conditions.
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