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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
September 23 2020 11:01 GMT
#181
On September 23 2020 20:01 Swisslink wrote:
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On September 23 2020 20:00 Elentos wrote:
I can't believe Armani won his Ro24 group


He beat sOs 2:0. I'm just wondering... how. But I'm also wondering how Zoun won his group, though.

sOs really isn't that good since forever now, regardless of balance
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3550 Posts
September 23 2020 11:01 GMT
#182
On September 23 2020 20:01 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2020 20:00 Elentos wrote:
I can't believe Armani won his Ro24 group


He beat sOs 2:0. I'm just wondering... how. But I'm also wondering how Zoun won his group, though.

sOs also built no units
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16078 Posts
September 23 2020 11:01 GMT
#183
On September 23 2020 20:01 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2020 20:00 Elentos wrote:
I can't believe Armani won his Ro24 group


He beat sOs 2:0. I'm just wondering... how. But I'm also wondering how Zoun won his group, though.

did you watch the games? then you'd know how
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t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
183 Posts
September 23 2020 11:02 GMT
#184
Zoun has pretty good micro though, he almost always avoids biles with grace
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
September 23 2020 11:02 GMT
#185
Defo rooting for Zoun to make it out of this group! He's pulling deep from the protoss book of marvels right now and it's great to watch!
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
September 23 2020 11:03 GMT
#186
Much better from Zoun. That was brutal. Both the speedlot all in and the disruptor drop follow up. Zerg did not react to the lack of a toss 3rd in time.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
September 23 2020 11:03 GMT
#187
The first game was a bit of a mess, but Zoun is looking pretty good IMO.
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
September 23 2020 11:03 GMT
#188
On September 23 2020 19:56 Tsubbi wrote:
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On September 23 2020 19:52 Luolis wrote:
On September 23 2020 19:49 shadymmj wrote:
Zoun was incredibly bad for someone who actually won

Well lets give him some slack, he was playing pvz after all.

PVZ on aligulac is at 50,97% in favor of protoss, map statistics on on liquipedia are also p favored. Can you please stop whining in each and every lr thread already? its not you in particular, but it really got out of hand here lately


Can you point me to the part of aligulac that states that? The only PvZ statistic I can find has it at 45.88% winrate for Protoss.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2955 Posts
September 23 2020 11:03 GMT
#189
On September 23 2020 20:01 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2020 20:01 Swisslink wrote:
On September 23 2020 20:00 Elentos wrote:
I can't believe Armani won his Ro24 group


He beat sOs 2:0. I'm just wondering... how. But I'm also wondering how Zoun won his group, though.

did you watch the games? then you'd know how


I did, but both seemed way off today compared to their previous games. Which makes me wonder whether the Ro24 was a spike upwards, or today was the opposite.


On September 23 2020 20:02 t5Fab wrote:
Zoun has pretty good micro though, he almost always avoids biles with grace


Only if he doesn't. Then he loses an entire army to biles during a push.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 23 2020 11:03 GMT
#190
Now to see just how bad TvP is to get a refreshing change of pace from normal zerg whining.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 23 2020 11:04 GMT
#191
On September 23 2020 20:02 Oukka wrote:
Defo rooting for Zoun to make it out of this group! He's pulling deep from the protoss book of marvels right now and it's great to watch!


Yes it's super funny to watch straight 0-3 in ro8.

Dream would provide us much better games.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 23 2020 11:06 GMT
#192
On September 23 2020 20:03 Z3nith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2020 19:56 Tsubbi wrote:
On September 23 2020 19:52 Luolis wrote:
On September 23 2020 19:49 shadymmj wrote:
Zoun was incredibly bad for someone who actually won

Well lets give him some slack, he was playing pvz after all.

PVZ on aligulac is at 50,97% in favor of protoss, map statistics on on liquipedia are also p favored. Can you please stop whining in each and every lr thread already? its not you in particular, but it really got out of hand here lately


Can you point me to the part of aligulac that states that? The only PvZ statistic I can find has it at 45.88% winrate for Protoss.


http://aligulac.com/misc/balance/

The guy pulled the number from August. I have no idea what happened this summer but after that PvZ winrate have been steadily climbing upwards.

P. S. That said i find it hilarious that worst PvZ winrate recorded was during first month of LotV before tosses realized that you can't just rely on forcefields to win you games anymore.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-23 11:08:40
September 23 2020 11:06 GMT
#193
It's frankly embarrassing that the balance whine on here has gotten so bad that people will complain even when protoss beats zerg 2-0

And mind you, that's a protoss player that was considered far weaker than the zerg until about a week ago
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
September 23 2020 11:07 GMT
#194
On September 23 2020 20:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Now to see just how bad TvP is to get a refreshing change of pace from normal zerg whining.

Will indeed be interesting to see what shenanigans await us. Can't trust either player to play a normal game.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 23 2020 11:07 GMT
#195
On September 23 2020 20:04 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2020 20:02 Oukka wrote:
Defo rooting for Zoun to make it out of this group! He's pulling deep from the protoss book of marvels right now and it's great to watch!


Yes it's super funny to watch straight 0-3 in ro8.

Dream would provide us much better games.

Like Dream vs Rogue?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2955 Posts
September 23 2020 11:08 GMT
#196
On September 23 2020 20:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2020 20:04 DieuCure wrote:
On September 23 2020 20:02 Oukka wrote:
Defo rooting for Zoun to make it out of this group! He's pulling deep from the protoss book of marvels right now and it's great to watch!


Yes it's super funny to watch straight 0-3 in ro8.

Dream would provide us much better games.

Like Dream vs Rogue?


Rogue Series are never good. That's just how things are and we got to deal with it.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 23 2020 11:08 GMT
#197
You know what's patently unfair? After Zoun makes the Top 4 of this season, he won't get automatically seeded into Code S next season.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 23 2020 11:09 GMT
#198
On September 23 2020 20:08 Circumstance wrote:
You know what's patently unfair? After Zoun makes the Top 4 of this season, he won't get automatically seeded into Code S next season.

Wait, they are changing seeding rules AGAIN?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 23 2020 11:10 GMT
#199
On September 23 2020 20:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2020 20:08 Circumstance wrote:
You know what's patently unfair? After Zoun makes the Top 4 of this season, he won't get automatically seeded into Code S next season.

Wait, they are changing seeding rules AGAIN?

Last season of the year.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-23 11:13:23
September 23 2020 11:11 GMT
#200
On September 23 2020 20:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2020 20:03 Z3nith wrote:
On September 23 2020 19:56 Tsubbi wrote:
On September 23 2020 19:52 Luolis wrote:
On September 23 2020 19:49 shadymmj wrote:
Zoun was incredibly bad for someone who actually won

Well lets give him some slack, he was playing pvz after all.

PVZ on aligulac is at 50,97% in favor of protoss, map statistics on on liquipedia are also p favored. Can you please stop whining in each and every lr thread already? its not you in particular, but it really got out of hand here lately


Can you point me to the part of aligulac that states that? The only PvZ statistic I can find has it at 45.88% winrate for Protoss.


http://aligulac.com/misc/balance/

The guy pulled the number from August. I have no idea what happened this summer but after that PvZ winrate have been steadily climbing upwards.

P. S. That said i find it hilarious that worst PvZ winrate recorded was during first month of LotV before tosses realized that you can't just rely on forcefields to win you games anymore.


Thanks for the info, I think much like PvP before the recent patches the main issue with PvZ is one of design. It's weird to say but I actually miss the days of 2017 when it used to be skytoss vs late game zerg (Think Stats vs Dark in the SSL season finals).
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