Much better from Zoun. That was brutal. Both the speedlot all in and the disruptor drop follow up. Zerg did not react to the lack of a toss 3rd in time.

Ciaus_Dronu

South Africa1848 Posts

September 23 2020 11:03 GMT

#187

The first game was a bit of a mess, but Zoun is looking pretty good IMO.

Z3nith

485 Posts

September 23 2020 11:03 GMT

#188

On September 23 2020 19:56 Tsubbi wrote:

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PVZ on aligulac is at 50,97% in favor of protoss, map statistics on on liquipedia are also p favored. Can you please stop whining in each and every lr thread already? its not you in particular, but it really got out of hand here lately

Can you point me to the part of aligulac that states that? The only PvZ statistic I can find has it at 45.88% winrate for Protoss.

Swisslink

2949 Posts

September 23 2020 11:03 GMT

#189

On September 23 2020 20:01 Charoisaur wrote:

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did you watch the games? then you'd know how

I did, but both seemed way off today compared to their previous games. Which makes me wonder whether the Ro24 was a spike upwards, or today was the opposite.

On September 23 2020 20:02 t5Fab wrote:
Zoun has pretty good micro though, he almost always avoids biles with grace

Only if he doesn't. Then he loses an entire army to biles during a push.

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40186 Posts

September 23 2020 11:03 GMT

#190

Now to see just how bad TvP is to get a refreshing change of pace from normal zerg whining.

DieuCure

France3713 Posts

September 23 2020 11:04 GMT

#191

On September 23 2020 20:02 Oukka wrote:
Defo rooting for Zoun to make it out of this group! He's pulling deep from the protoss book of marvels right now and it's great to watch!

Yes it's super funny to watch straight 0-3 in ro8.

Dream would provide us much better games.

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40186 Posts

September 23 2020 11:06 GMT

#192

On September 23 2020 20:03 Z3nith wrote:

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Can you point me to the part of aligulac that states that? The only PvZ statistic I can find has it at 45.88% winrate for Protoss.

http://aligulac.com/misc/balance/

The guy pulled the number from August. I have no idea what happened this summer but after that PvZ winrate have been steadily climbing upwards.

P. S. That said i find it hilarious that worst PvZ winrate recorded was during first month of LotV before tosses realized that you can't just rely on forcefields to win you games anymore.

Zzzapper

1790 Posts

September 23 2020 11:06 GMT

#193

It's frankly embarrassing that the balance whine on here has gotten so bad that people will complain even when protoss beats zerg 2-0

And mind you, that's a protoss player that was considered far weaker than the zerg until about a week ago

Elentos

55456 Posts

September 23 2020 11:07 GMT

#194

On September 23 2020 20:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Now to see just how bad TvP is to get a refreshing change of pace from normal zerg whining.

Will indeed be interesting to see what shenanigans await us. Can't trust either player to play a normal game.

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40186 Posts

September 23 2020 11:07 GMT

#195

On September 23 2020 20:04 DieuCure wrote:

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Yes it's super funny to watch straight 0-3 in ro8.

Dream would provide us much better games.

Like Dream vs Rogue?

Swisslink

2949 Posts

September 23 2020 11:08 GMT

#196

On September 23 2020 20:07 lolfail9001 wrote:

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Like Dream vs Rogue?

Rogue Series are never good. That's just how things are and we got to deal with it.

Circumstance

United States11403 Posts

September 23 2020 11:08 GMT

#197

You know what's patently unfair? After Zoun makes the Top 4 of this season, he won't get automatically seeded into Code S next season.

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40186 Posts

September 23 2020 11:09 GMT

#198

On September 23 2020 20:08 Circumstance wrote:
You know what's patently unfair? After Zoun makes the Top 4 of this season, he won't get automatically seeded into Code S next season.

Wait, they are changing seeding rules AGAIN?

Circumstance

United States11403 Posts

September 23 2020 11:10 GMT

#199

On September 23 2020 20:09 lolfail9001 wrote:

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Wait, they are changing seeding rules AGAIN?

Last season of the year.

Z3nith

485 Posts

September 23 2020 11:11 GMT

#200

On September 23 2020 20:06 lolfail9001 wrote:

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Thanks for the info, I think much like PvP before the recent patches the main issue with PvZ is one of design. It's weird to say but I actually miss the days of 2017 when it used to be skytoss vs late game zerg (Think Stats vs Dark in the SSL season finals).