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On September 20 2020 09:17 Pandain wrote:
But you're missing the point. Maru was famously inconsistent (think of all the times we had huge maru hype and then he gets knocked out in unceremonious fashion). Serral (was) famously consistent
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On September 20 2020 08:57 AzAlexZ wrote:
if Maru can get eliminated in ro32, then Serral can, deal with it
On September 20 2020 07:34 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Nah. No. Serral would never get eliminated in ro32. He is just too consistently good for that. While I don't think he would achieve something like Mary (winning 4 gsl in a row). He would always be in a ro8 at least. Let's not diminish his consistency
On September 20 2020 07:10 JJH777 wrote:
If Serral played in every GSL for the last 3 years he would have been eliminated in the ro32 at least once. That can't be held against anyone. All the GSL greats get eliminated in the ro32. The level of competition and prep time make it impossible to be that consistent in GSL. Serral is consistent because he only plays in a few events a year where he has any chance of getting eliminated before the top 4 so he can make sure he is in top condition for those events.
On September 20 2020 06:07 Xain0n wrote:
First of all, I personally NEVER said Serral was the GOAT earlier.
I think that now, as the most winningnest player in the history of Sc2(not to mention his streak, his win percentage and his average placements), he is one of the candidates.
The argument of Zerg being op affects Rogue much more than Serral; I'm kind of sick of repeating that but when Serral was at his apex and won 6 tournaments in a row including BlizzCon only one other Zerg reached the finals in a Premier.
Rogue looks like a scrub(remember his ro32 exits at Code S?) when he is not in shape or Zerg is weak, Serral's consistency since 2018 is unmatched.
I was not the one saying that Rogue played bad today, read better.
People talk crap about Serral when he loses because he broke forever their conviction that only koreans could dominate Starcraft; as for today, I think Serral effectively tilted, that was truly an Idra-esque early gg.
On September 20 2020 05:45 AzAlexZ wrote:
right Serral with his resume is a GOAT while Rogue with 3 world championship titles and 2 GSL's (and 9-0 in bo7's) is not a GOAT and losing to Inno because 'performed bad today', but Serral lost to Clem is 'whatever'.
This is exactly why people talk so much crap about Serral when he loses, people are sick of Serral being held on a pedestal because of excess hyping and unreasonable allocations of merit especially when in recent times Zerg has been a broken race.
Serral is not the only person to receive criticism, Dark has received them, Rogue has received them, sOs has received them (notice they are all World champions). Freaking Mvp, Zest, Inno, MC, they all get criticism. Everyone does, Serral shouldn't be immune to it, so stop being butthurt when he gets it.
On September 20 2020 05:38 Xain0n wrote:
Overhyping? You must be thinking of someone else.
Listing up Serral's feats, admiring his undeniable skill and repelling the ridicolous and increasingly indefensible arguments korean elitists tried to pull out against him(and non korean Sc2) in the last three years are not overhyping.
On September 20 2020 04:27 Vindicare605 wrote:
Agreed. If Serral fans wanted less criticism of him they could tone down their own praising language.
On September 20 2020 04:26 Charoisaur wrote:
he's the most overhyped player of all time, partly because of you so you have to just deal with the "badmouthing"
On September 20 2020 04:20 Xain0n wrote:
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I cannot stand people badmouthing great players when they lose and TL loves hating on Serral when he does.
Also, losing matches has nothing to deal with being GOAT or not.
I am super happy for Clem, on the other hand!
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I cannot stand people badmouthing great players when they lose and TL loves hating on Serral when he does.
Also, losing matches has nothing to deal with being GOAT or not.
I am super happy for Clem, on the other hand!
he's the most overhyped player of all time, partly because of you so you have to just deal with the "badmouthing"
Agreed. If Serral fans wanted less criticism of him they could tone down their own praising language.
Overhyping? You must be thinking of someone else.
Listing up Serral's feats, admiring his undeniable skill and repelling the ridicolous and increasingly indefensible arguments korean elitists tried to pull out against him(and non korean Sc2) in the last three years are not overhyping.
right Serral with his resume is a GOAT while Rogue with 3 world championship titles and 2 GSL's (and 9-0 in bo7's) is not a GOAT and losing to Inno because 'performed bad today', but Serral lost to Clem is 'whatever'.
This is exactly why people talk so much crap about Serral when he loses, people are sick of Serral being held on a pedestal because of excess hyping and unreasonable allocations of merit especially when in recent times Zerg has been a broken race.
Serral is not the only person to receive criticism, Dark has received them, Rogue has received them, sOs has received them (notice they are all World champions). Freaking Mvp, Zest, Inno, MC, they all get criticism. Everyone does, Serral shouldn't be immune to it, so stop being butthurt when he gets it.
First of all, I personally NEVER said Serral was the GOAT earlier.
I think that now, as the most winningnest player in the history of Sc2(not to mention his streak, his win percentage and his average placements), he is one of the candidates.
The argument of Zerg being op affects Rogue much more than Serral; I'm kind of sick of repeating that but when Serral was at his apex and won 6 tournaments in a row including BlizzCon only one other Zerg reached the finals in a Premier.
Rogue looks like a scrub(remember his ro32 exits at Code S?) when he is not in shape or Zerg is weak, Serral's consistency since 2018 is unmatched.
I was not the one saying that Rogue played bad today, read better.
People talk crap about Serral when he loses because he broke forever their conviction that only koreans could dominate Starcraft; as for today, I think Serral effectively tilted, that was truly an Idra-esque early gg.
If Serral played in every GSL for the last 3 years he would have been eliminated in the ro32 at least once. That can't be held against anyone. All the GSL greats get eliminated in the ro32. The level of competition and prep time make it impossible to be that consistent in GSL. Serral is consistent because he only plays in a few events a year where he has any chance of getting eliminated before the top 4 so he can make sure he is in top condition for those events.
Nah. No. Serral would never get eliminated in ro32. He is just too consistently good for that. While I don't think he would achieve something like Mary (winning 4 gsl in a row). He would always be in a ro8 at least. Let's not diminish his consistency
if Maru can get eliminated in ro32, then Serral can, deal with it
But you're missing the point. Maru was famously inconsistent (think of all the times we had huge maru hype and then he gets knocked out in unceremonious fashion). Serral (was) famously consistent
Maru is as consistent as a terran can be, but you can always get group of death every once in a while and be eliminated
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