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hyuu
Profile Joined August 2011
163 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-19 19:22:51
September 19 2020 19:22 GMT
#1081
On September 20 2020 04:21 HeroSandro wrote:
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On September 20 2020 04:20 hyuu wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:13 AttackZerg wrote:
Sorry for my newishness, has europe ever had a T in sc2 who was top of the world before?


Not really, i think the closest we had from being top tier was Jinro?

You must mean Naama?

oooh i had forgot that one !!! I raise you Tarson
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
September 19 2020 19:22 GMT
#1082
Clem is really a pleasure to watch, his play is extremely clean and very decisive

Finally a european terran who can actually win tournaments
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
September 19 2020 19:23 GMT
#1083
On September 20 2020 04:17 Bagration wrote:
The European scene seems to be in good shape - multiple top tier players, and young rising stars like Reynor and Clem. That's good to see


It definitely is.
It is really hard to prove right now with only cross server play to judge by but for me Reynor is the best player in the world in the moment, Serral is still top 3 maybe even 2nd and Clem is top 10.

Koreans are still the best server in terms of quantity though.
I would say 15 of the top 20 players in the world are still Korean, but if you would have Korea battle Europe server vs server in a Nationwars format I would pick Europe at this point.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
September 19 2020 19:24 GMT
#1084
On September 20 2020 04:19 Solio wrote:
Maybe Trap can win the tournament if Clem beats Reynor


Im honestly rooting for it but I think Trap is skilled enough to take a single zerg in a bracket. Not good enough to take out 2 zergs in a row though.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Parser
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy87 Posts
September 19 2020 19:24 GMT
#1085
On September 20 2020 04:22 Calliope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 04:20 hyuu wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:13 AttackZerg wrote:
Sorry for my newishness, has europe ever had a T in sc2 who was top of the world before?


Not really, i think the closest we had from being top tier was Jinro?


Sjow beating Life is peak European T.


Maybe the apex of euro T was Thorzain winning TSL
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 19 2020 19:25 GMT
#1086
On September 20 2020 04:22 Tsubbi wrote:
Clem is really a pleasure to watch, his play is extremely clean and very decisive

Finally a european terran who can actually win tournaments


Honestly he looks like peak Maru with better strategic thinking. At least in TvZ. Very impressed by his plays, and would not mind him winning this at all
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16025 Posts
September 19 2020 19:26 GMT
#1087
On September 20 2020 04:20 Xain0n wrote:
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On September 20 2020 04:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:14 Xain0n wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:10 Charoisaur wrote:
The Goat


How comes the unstoppable Rogue was trampled earlier in the days and I only saw comments saying Inno was good while now Serral loses and his skill is questioned along with his comments?

Serral can lose, at the moment he is not the unstoppable god he was in 2018 and not even the arguably #1 player he was in 2019; this doesn't mean he weren't in the past.


Because no one considers Rogue the GOAT. that level of adulation comes with appropriate increases in scrutiny.

Also I find it funny that you showed up so fast. You're very reliable in how defensive you are of Serral whenever he DOES lose.


I cannot stand people badmouthing great players when they lose and TL loves hating on Serral when he does.
Also, losing matches has nothing to deal with being GOAT or not.

I am super happy for Clem, on the other hand!

he's the most overhyped player of all time, partly because of you so you have to just deal with the "badmouthing"

Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 19 2020 19:26 GMT
#1088
Clem is the best Bio Terran vs Zerg in the Word right now, maybe ever
MaxPax
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
September 19 2020 19:27 GMT
#1089
People forgetting about GoOdy tsk tsk

the Panzer General ffs
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
September 19 2020 19:27 GMT
#1090
On September 20 2020 04:26 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 04:20 Xain0n wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:14 Xain0n wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:10 Charoisaur wrote:
The Goat


How comes the unstoppable Rogue was trampled earlier in the days and I only saw comments saying Inno was good while now Serral loses and his skill is questioned along with his comments?

Serral can lose, at the moment he is not the unstoppable god he was in 2018 and not even the arguably #1 player he was in 2019; this doesn't mean he weren't in the past.


Because no one considers Rogue the GOAT. that level of adulation comes with appropriate increases in scrutiny.

Also I find it funny that you showed up so fast. You're very reliable in how defensive you are of Serral whenever he DOES lose.


I cannot stand people badmouthing great players when they lose and TL loves hating on Serral when he does.
Also, losing matches has nothing to deal with being GOAT or not.

I am super happy for Clem, on the other hand!

he's the most overhyped player of all time, partly because of you so you have to just deal with the "badmouthing"



Agreed. If Serral fans wanted less criticism of him they could tone down their own praising language.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
hyuu
Profile Joined August 2011
163 Posts
September 19 2020 19:28 GMT
#1091
On September 20 2020 04:24 Parser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 04:22 Calliope wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:20 hyuu wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:13 AttackZerg wrote:
Sorry for my newishness, has europe ever had a T in sc2 who was top of the world before?


Not really, i think the closest we had from being top tier was Jinro?


Sjow beating Life is peak European T.


Maybe the apex of euro T was Thorzain winning TSL


Jinro made it to GSL semifinal twice in a row, he should get the credit
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 19 2020 19:28 GMT
#1092
People here seem to think Trap is already in the finals but I noticed his PvT declined quite severely as the cost of a greatly improved PvZ. Yes, Inno does not like playing against protoss but he definitely has a good chance tomorrow.

And as much as I would like Clem to do it I think Reynor is just too hot at the moment...
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
September 19 2020 19:31 GMT
#1093
On September 20 2020 04:28 hyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 04:24 Parser wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:22 Calliope wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:20 hyuu wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:13 AttackZerg wrote:
Sorry for my newishness, has europe ever had a T in sc2 who was top of the world before?


Not really, i think the closest we had from being top tier was Jinro?


Sjow beating Life is peak European T.


Maybe the apex of euro T was Thorzain winning TSL


Jinro made it to GSL semifinal twice in a row, he should get the credit


That was impressive but gameplay's wise the eu T who impressed me the most was Lucifron.
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
September 19 2020 19:32 GMT
#1094
On September 20 2020 04:31 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 04:28 hyuu wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:24 Parser wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:22 Calliope wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:20 hyuu wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:13 AttackZerg wrote:
Sorry for my newishness, has europe ever had a T in sc2 who was top of the world before?


Not really, i think the closest we had from being top tier was Jinro?


Sjow beating Life is peak European T.


Maybe the apex of euro T was Thorzain winning TSL


Jinro made it to GSL semifinal twice in a row, he should get the credit


That was impressive but gameplay's wise the eu T who impressed me the most was Lucifron.


Oh right, that's true, often outshone by his brother at a time severly advantaging Z but he was very impressive.
Clément 화이팅
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
September 19 2020 19:32 GMT
#1095
On September 20 2020 04:28 hyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 04:24 Parser wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:22 Calliope wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:20 hyuu wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:13 AttackZerg wrote:
Sorry for my newishness, has europe ever had a T in sc2 who was top of the world before?


Not really, i think the closest we had from being top tier was Jinro?


Sjow beating Life is peak European T.


Maybe the apex of euro T was Thorzain winning TSL


Jinro made it to GSL semifinal twice in a row, he should get the credit

Thank you. That definitely counts.

So Clem being a world class T from Europe is just as ground breaking as when Serral was the first world class zerg from Europe right?

In other words, it seems like we are in another brand new age.

Clem's makes units seem alive. I would hate to play ling/bane against him. Just a nightmare.
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
September 19 2020 19:33 GMT
#1096
Btw, no tweet yet by Serral. Another that this defeat was different and he did indeed tilt.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
September 19 2020 19:34 GMT
#1097
On September 20 2020 04:28 MarianoSC2 wrote:
People here seem to think Trap is already in the finals but I noticed his PvT declined quite severely as the cost of a greatly improved PvZ. Yes, Inno does not like playing against protoss but he definitely has a good chance tomorrow.

And as much as I would like Clem to do it I think Reynor is just too hot at the moment...



mmm my comment was more in the line of addressing the point some people does that they think Trap can reliable take out a Terran but has 0 chance to win vs a zerg.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
September 19 2020 19:37 GMT
#1098
On September 20 2020 04:27 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 04:26 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:20 Xain0n wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:14 Xain0n wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:10 Charoisaur wrote:
The Goat


How comes the unstoppable Rogue was trampled earlier in the days and I only saw comments saying Inno was good while now Serral loses and his skill is questioned along with his comments?

Serral can lose, at the moment he is not the unstoppable god he was in 2018 and not even the arguably #1 player he was in 2019; this doesn't mean he weren't in the past.


Because no one considers Rogue the GOAT. that level of adulation comes with appropriate increases in scrutiny.

Also I find it funny that you showed up so fast. You're very reliable in how defensive you are of Serral whenever he DOES lose.


I cannot stand people badmouthing great players when they lose and TL loves hating on Serral when he does.
Also, losing matches has nothing to deal with being GOAT or not.

I am super happy for Clem, on the other hand!

he's the most overhyped player of all time, partly because of you so you have to just deal with the "badmouthing"



Agreed. If Serral fans wanted less criticism of him they could tone down their own praising language.


What you're describing is quite mechanic but it's wrong to badmouth a guy like Joona for this reason.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 19 2020 19:37 GMT
#1099
On September 20 2020 04:25 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 04:22 Tsubbi wrote:
Clem is really a pleasure to watch, his play is extremely clean and very decisive

Finally a european terran who can actually win tournaments


Honestly he looks like peak Maru with better strategic thinking.


What did I just read ? Probably have to clean my eyes.
TL+ Member
hyuu
Profile Joined August 2011
163 Posts
September 19 2020 19:39 GMT
#1100
On September 20 2020 04:32 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 04:28 hyuu wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:24 Parser wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:22 Calliope wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:20 hyuu wrote:
On September 20 2020 04:13 AttackZerg wrote:
Sorry for my newishness, has europe ever had a T in sc2 who was top of the world before?


Not really, i think the closest we had from being top tier was Jinro?


Sjow beating Life is peak European T.


Maybe the apex of euro T was Thorzain winning TSL


Jinro made it to GSL semifinal twice in a row, he should get the credit

Thank you. That definitely counts.

So Clem being a world class T from Europe is just as ground breaking as when Serral was the first world class zerg from Europe right?

In other words, it seems like we are in another brand new age.

Clem's makes units seem alive. I would hate to play ling/bane against him. Just a nightmare.


Serral was not the first EU world class zerg, except if what you mean by wprld class is : "the best player in the world by far".
We had for exemple Stephano in WOL/HotS area

i share your excitement of watching Clem's army control, fantastic
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