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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 18:27 GMT
#661
On September 13 2020 03:26 Elentos wrote:
Not a good game at all from Heromarine. Didn't even have 2/2 on an 8-rax.

Fairly certain you can't exactly complain about build not being perfect when you lost 22 workers to nydus all-in early on.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 12 2020 18:28 GMT
#662
Indeed, that's quite a bad obsing so far...
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
September 12 2020 18:29 GMT
#663
On September 13 2020 03:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2020 03:26 Elentos wrote:
Not a good game at all from Heromarine. Didn't even have 2/2 on an 8-rax.

Fairly certain you can't exactly complain about build not being perfect when you lost 22 workers to nydus all-in early on.

I don't know what his build was to begin with cause I've never seen it before. Yet somehow it managed to hold the nydus with no scouting and no vision well enough that he could have won the game if he played better.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
slant
Profile Joined February 2020
Romania95 Posts
September 12 2020 18:30 GMT
#664
On September 13 2020 03:17 Calliope wrote:
Why cheese when you're favoured in any standard game. The onus is on the opponent to cheese.


Cheesing gives you more unpredictability, makes your opponents less likely to play greedy.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2020 18:31 GMT
#665
On September 13 2020 03:30 slant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2020 03:17 Calliope wrote:
Why cheese when you're favoured in any standard game. The onus is on the opponent to cheese.


Cheesing gives you more unpredictability, makes your opponents less likely to play greedy.

Then again, Serral cheesing almost feels like 2013's Innovation cheesing.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 12 2020 18:32 GMT
#666
Poor heromarine. Even though he was knocked down into the lower bracket by petitdrogo I can't help but think that he's the 4th best player there (him or showtime) and way better than marinelord atm. Frankly, he might even be the 3rd best player across all match ups considering how much weaker Clem's TvT is compared to his non mirrors.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
September 12 2020 18:32 GMT
#667
On September 13 2020 03:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2020 03:30 slant wrote:
On September 13 2020 03:17 Calliope wrote:
Why cheese when you're favoured in any standard game. The onus is on the opponent to cheese.


Cheesing gives you more unpredictability, makes your opponents less likely to play greedy.

Then again, Serral cheesing almost feels like 2013's Innovation cheesing.

"I have a 98% chance to win if I play normal, BUT MAYBE I can bamboozle my opponent and look really smart."
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 18:37:07
September 12 2020 18:35 GMT
#668
I'm fine with him cheesing, but he better win some of those cheeses as well. They make him less predictable.

Then again, I'm also not sure if using them against players he should win in standard games anyway is a good idea but whatever.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
September 12 2020 18:36 GMT
#669
On September 13 2020 03:35 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm fine with him cheesing, but he better win some of those cheeses as well. They make him less predictable.

Becoming less predictable for sure seems like a long-term plan though. For now it always feels that he's lowering his own win rates with his build choices.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 18:38:14
September 12 2020 18:37 GMT
#670
On September 13 2020 03:36 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2020 03:35 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm fine with him cheesing, but he better win some of those cheeses as well. They make him less predictable.

Becoming less predictable for sure seems like a long-term plan though. For now it always feels that he's lowering his own win rates with his build choices.

That's fine as long as he doesn't lose series because of it. ^^ Except for the aligulac rating I guess.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
September 12 2020 18:38 GMT
#671
On September 13 2020 03:37 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2020 03:36 Elentos wrote:
On September 13 2020 03:35 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm fine with him cheesing, but he better win some of those cheeses as well. They make him less predictable.

Becoming less predictable for sure seems like a long-term plan though. For now it always feels that he's lowering his own win rates with his build choices.

That's fine as long as he doesn't lose series because of it. ^^

No actually if he could just cheese MLorD every game and lose the series that'd be some quality entertainment and a proper novelty.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
September 12 2020 18:41 GMT
#672
come on Clem
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 12 2020 18:42 GMT
#673
On September 13 2020 03:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2020 03:37 HolydaKing wrote:
On September 13 2020 03:36 Elentos wrote:
On September 13 2020 03:35 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm fine with him cheesing, but he better win some of those cheeses as well. They make him less predictable.

Becoming less predictable for sure seems like a long-term plan though. For now it always feels that he's lowering his own win rates with his build choices.

That's fine as long as he doesn't lose series because of it. ^^

No actually if he could just cheese MLorD every game and lose the series that'd be some quality entertainment and a proper novelty.


Serral would need a lot of ZhuGeLiang coaching for that to happen.
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
September 12 2020 18:43 GMT
#674
Please let it be Funka casting this. His genuine, unbridled passion during Clem games makes an already fantastic experience even better.
Clément 화이팅
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 12 2020 18:43 GMT
#675
On September 13 2020 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:
Poor heromarine. Even though he was knocked down into the lower bracket by petitdrogo I can't help but think that he's the 4th best player there (him or showtime) and way better than marinelord atm. Frankly, he might even be the 3rd best player across all match ups considering how much weaker Clem's TvT is compared to his non mirrors.


Yeah, I feel like MLord just had the luckiest Streak imaginable.
I mean, yes he beat realy good players, but nothing realy worth a top 4 finish in EU.
He beat:
Kas
Aquaeron
Denver
uThermal
Vanya
Mana
Geralt
Drogo

while losing to
Sortof, Heromarine and Elazer.
MaxPax
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 12 2020 18:45 GMT
#676
Argh, Nathanias at the cast, I guess I have to stay with the french stream.
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
September 12 2020 18:48 GMT
#677
On September 13 2020 03:45 stilt wrote:
Argh, Nathanias at the cast, I guess I have to stay with the french stream.


Don't hate, there's nothing wrong with Nathanias, but for clem games you just have to go with Funka's casting. Clem hwaiting!
Clément 화이팅
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 12 2020 18:53 GMT
#678
On September 13 2020 03:10 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2020 03:09 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 13 2020 02:54 Penev wrote:
On September 13 2020 02:43 Penev wrote:
On September 13 2020 02:41 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 13 2020 02:26 Penev wrote:
On September 13 2020 02:14 sneakyfox wrote:
Is anyone else having problems with twitch?

I tried both chrome and edge and am having trouble streaming at high res.

Still having problems? If so Twitch works fine for me


Thanks, yeah stil not working well, and it's not the connection. Which browser are you using?

firefox but I just checked in edge and that works fine as well

it's been awhile I had problems with twitch myself but I remember being able to circumvent stutter and buffer problems by watching it through VLC

edit: this was meant for Sneaky obv and not for fucking Penev. tsk tsk


Yes could you please keep Penev out of this, don't want to get that guy involved!

How do you twitch in vlc?

don't remember exactly but this should help you on your way
https://www.reddit.com/r/DatGuyLirik/comments/35euxi/ezmode_watch_twitch_trough_vlc_best/


OK thanks a bunch.


On September 13 2020 03:10 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2020 03:09 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 13 2020 02:54 Penev wrote:
On September 13 2020 02:43 Penev wrote:
On September 13 2020 02:41 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 13 2020 02:26 Penev wrote:
On September 13 2020 02:14 sneakyfox wrote:
Is anyone else having problems with twitch?

I tried both chrome and edge and am having trouble streaming at high res.

Still having problems? If so Twitch works fine for me


Thanks, yeah stil not working well, and it's not the connection. Which browser are you using?

firefox but I just checked in edge and that works fine as well

it's been awhile I had problems with twitch myself but I remember being able to circumvent stutter and buffer problems by watching it through VLC

edit: this was meant for Sneaky obv and not for fucking Penev. tsk tsk


Yes could you please keep Penev out of this, don't want to get that guy involved!

How do you twitch in vlc?
If it turns out it's actually a problem with your internet acting up though, then Penev is the guy to ask


I'm afraid it's a problem with the internet in general in Denmark. We may still need an expert.

(Haven't had serious ISP problems in 15 years, that's not something I miss)
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
September 12 2020 18:57 GMT
#679
Clem is the actual foreign Terran hope until his wrists explode.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
September 12 2020 18:57 GMT
#680
Nice fantasy gg timing
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
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